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    Citazione Originally Written by mcjtd Visualizza Messaggio
    dvd but secnodo you the maf, what's the use?
    The maf I repeat that measure almost? the same air inlet to vary the rpm and load...don't you force aspire to more? air, but you have to give the turbo, speaking in a way of cash.

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    dvd studying this topic, you are out of the way....plug any scanner to the ecu and displays the parameters of the intake air from the maf you will see that approximately, depending on the engine the maf do you give? at a minimum, around 300mg of air to the maximum you will have approximately 1000-1200g of intake air that does not ? almost the same as the air intake, but c'? a big difference, and this means the ec and the ecu based many of his strategies to work on the maf, as otherwise it would be as you say, this sensor would be one thing totally useless....
    you perhaps are you confused by the fact that the diesel aspires always to the maximum air available but forget his more big variable this? the revs of the engine...at idle,say 1000 rpm,aspirera less air at 4000 rpm....
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    dvd studying this topic, you are out of the way....plug any scanner to the ecu and displays the parameters of the intake air from the maf you will see that approximately, depending on the engine the maf do you give? at a minimum, around 300mg of air to the maximum you will have approximately 1000-1200g of intake air that does not ? almost the same as the air intake, but c'? a big difference, and this means the ec and the ecu based many of his strategies to work on the maf, as otherwise it would be as you say, this sensor would be one thing totally useless....
    you perhaps are you confused by the fact that the diesel aspires always to the maximum air available but forget his more big variable this? the revs of the engine...at idle,say 1000 rpm,aspirera less air at 4000 rpm....
    I'm sorry, munro I expressed myself badly...I meant what you said but if we take 2000 rpm in third gear the maf measurement example, 1000 input...if we ask for more? diesel always at 2000rpm the maf misurer? always the same thing, or am I wrong?

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    great alfetta!!you have centered in the middle of the reasoning if lim fumes ori have e.g. a ratio afr 17:1 between the air and fuel you can modify it in two ways I have the abbasi down with the AFR, or you can change the values in the axes to comply with what is set in the ecu...
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    great alfetta!!you have centered in the middle of the reasoning if lim fumes ori have e.g. a ratio afr 17:1 between the air and fuel you can modify it in two ways I have the abbasi down with the AFR, or you can change the values in the axes to comply with what is set in the ecu...
    thanks munro!!
    in practice, connecting the discourse to the usual edc15p on iniezzione zoned i.e. limiter fumes, I find the engine revolutions, the load and the resultant, that is, the numbers in the grid that would be fuel injected??as I find myself at 3500rpm 100load and in tabular 4265 thing but' according to you??diesel 42.65 mg??let's see if it is just this reasoning:if I'm going to increase the map the pedal to the ecu on the basis of its strategies will be to increase the diesel right??but only diesel? or even limiter, smoke, and turbo pressure?? we put the ecu, I fit the diesel on the basis of the increase which I have given to the map the pedal,now only increased the quantity of diesel fuel, the AFR is changed at this point, I'm going to adjust the turbo pressure aumentado the compressed air to the tot n?of revolutions and at the same time, I'm going to adapt the limiter in the flue gas,but the ecm thinks!!??I find them the rpm and the load, if the intake air is not the can I change those numbers, or is this pressure turbo or diesel!!??increasing those numbers to inform the ecu of the increase which have you done???in order to correct lAFR???it is a bit twisted as my mind at this time ahaha I hope you understand....

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    I s? you do not want to understand dvd....the map of the flue gas is based on the intake air to the engine, and weighted by the mass air flow sensor or MAF...
    others, however, have the maps, the flue gas based on the turbo pressure sensor or MAP.....the edc15p in question has both types of limiters fumes..one based on the MAF, and the other based on the MAP if you increase the values linearly to the percentage on both the car with a lot of propabilit? will start to smoke like a ferry..***** and I have said somewhere else in these maps you change the calculator to the hand....
    however, take a look at this post where it explains very well the concept of the lim fumes and also as moddarlo..
    http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...cipianti/page4
    Last edited by munro; 04-12-2012 at 14:48
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    did you read the link to the thread posted?
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    did you read the link to the thread posted?
    no munro!which link???

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    did you read the link to the thread posted?
    I deleted your answer you before me, you also deleted, but anyway, I can read,I hope that you've deleted it because you realized that you wrote the wrong things and I sincerely hope not to have to see things like written,it seems to me that the forum is in its small way, you're still giving of the fruits, but no he had to keep it in mind,who wants to participate in good and she must do so in a comprehensive manner, those who do not go doesn't write and just keep it in the middle',for the rest, here they exchange opinions and there are professors who teach on-line.
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    msport, but you control only me?? I stay with the breath on his neck for something that I should not do?? frankly, the post in question deleted because it does not reflect my way of being...if I have helped up to now will continue? to do if the riterr? should be...then if I somehow I got it wrong, take the appropriate action...I always said I have no problems..unlike others who have major difficulties from the point of view that you know well I think....therefore you are? why not by a subsidiary also to others??
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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