Turbo Alfa 159 150 HP vs 210CV

[rego88]

guys, I have performed this upgrade on my 147 1.9 150hp.... precisely I have installed:
turbine 2.4 jtdm 210cv gtb2056
stainless steel manifolds built by me
injectors plus (I modified mine, plus 2cc)
discharge line 60, straight-tube
intercooler, front-6.5 litres
the piping for the ic aluminium 60mm diameter
and, logically, reinforced clutch with flywheel monomassa

of working pressure 2 bar.... I have to say the truth?.... not ? at all as I said munro... that rises, falls, etc.... if I pull.... you plant them and just.... I have found that with a pressure gauge to the hand in the shot, the second I do 1.8 bar, the third 2 bars and fourth-2.1 bar.....
I lightly touched (5%), the geometry at low load, to climb up to 1% at 3500 rpm, and then leave it owers from 3500 rpm and up....
as already said.... the pressure remains stable.... but I still have to finish the map.... on a stretch (logically of the circuit), I took references from the ori, only with the map.... I started second-50km/h on the other stretch, about 400/500 metres further on, now I do not know exactly the distance, I was 158km/h, the other evening, I passed the same point at 168km/h.... 10km/h on a stretch so short and not ? then so little..... I made other tests on the evidence, but I can not get over the threshold, on the contrary, if fattening, that I see a little bit of smoke behind, I feel the makkina more braking, and I go out with 5km/h in less....
another thing I noticed.... the pressure of the rail, even if I give 10 bar pressure in the most.... the car is not any longer.... and I lose those 4 and 5 km/h
the fact is, that the more I leave it lean in the car and the more I feel like I run away from under the ass.... but anyway.... yes, I got those 10km/h.... on that stretch.... but with 2.1 bar.... I'm not supposed to be at least 220 hp??? it seems to me that the difference between myself and others that have a mini cooper s jcw 210cv, clio rs 203cv, it is little.... why? we are all of them' as speed?!! those 165 who 168 but the difference to me seems a little.... what do you think???

[msport (exil77grande)]

from or to 1000m how do you speed?

[munro]

of working pressure 2 bar.... I have to say the truth?.... not ? at all as I said munro... that rises, falls, etc.... if I pull.... you plant them and just.... I have found that with a pressure gauge to the hand in the shot, the second I do 1.8 bar, the third 2 bars and fourth-2.1 bar.....
I lightly touched (5%), the geometry at low load, to climb up to 1% at 3500 rpm, and then leave it owers from 3500 rpm and up....
as already said.... the pressure remains stable.... but I still have to finish the map....

what you have established in the map turbo press rego88???I have no way to view the maps I ask you this....
then, however, say that the press turbo pisciottana secular? them and just....
when with 3 gears you have three different pressures....bh? I don't seem very "stable and planted," the press turbo....
about 2 bar ? 2 bar accurate in all gears....
are strasicuro that if you pull the car to 6a show that the pressure salt...salt ... and then in the last few laps cala bad....
rego88 can I ask you how much fuel to inject??I say that maximum inject around 75mm3.....
try raising the iq around 90mm3....
then tell me if the press turbo not ? at all as I say...
that, however, already? the f? as I say, I....
if I could see the geometry of the turbo while you're mashing the gas..
you would see the wastegate to go up and down to try to stabilize the press turbo worse than a porn star in heat....

[jared_poe]

ok lim torque now I understand but the ones I posted above are the graphs of turbines, of which we were talking about before?

[jared_poe]

ok I think I understand that for now I don't need... however, if in the map, keep on the values of 2600/2700 mBar do not run the risk of doing damage (st? speaking of Alfa 159 150 HP)

[jared_poe]

are you talking about the original turbine

[jared_poe]

then, according to you ? better to leave the limiters to no more than 2600mBar to avoid the risk of damaging the turbine

[jared_poe]

ok I understand what you mean for? I wanting to always stay on the side of the handle I am on the threshold l? I avoid damages

[jared_poe]

would like to just let you know that a Turbo with variable geometry has its "achilles heel" in the vanes of the latter which will not withstand very high temperatures for long periods of time...
hypothetically, a vgt you might break even without increasing the press of work, but for the absurd due to an increase in temperature egt derived for a catalyst means clogged or long bursts without leave to cool down the turbo itself...

munro you're starting to scare me...do so? could you help me to make the map turbo?

[rego88]

hehe... good rego cos? you f?.....I just wanted to warn for? that probably made after the change you will have some problems with the management of the geometry, nothing too serious, only that it will not be? veeery stable as the ori cio? give a big peak then caler? much to a certain number of laps and then again, piccare and nuvamente towards the end of the rpm returns to decrease as pressure...in short, contrary to the ori a, the pressure p? ups and downs...nothing that can't be solved with a good map...especially working on the maps an overboost.....

I had heard that it was not easy to manage the geometry on this turbine...if you are talking about so I think that a mod you have already made..... in egffetti I knew I had to play with the maps of the geometry.... thing that up until now I have never done.... I don't understand a thing.... x which is why it behaves like you said?? xk? climbs, then descends again then it goes back and then comes down again??? I could take reference from the maps of the geometry of a brera 210cv??