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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    Set lambda to 1 from 1500 to 4500 and make a map informed, and you can't go wrong. If you cut you omitted a few bits. You many want to unlock this ECU, and not just the classics that are used on the 8v.
    Scroll the map and see the bit about the IQ that you default on the limiters known. The ones you have to unlock definitely.
    I have already done work on this ECU, and also on the 147 with the same problem and I solved it so..
    8v or 16v with edc16c39, nothing changes the limiters iq are always those, and there are individual bits to unlock but they are all maps.
    You have worked on this ecu (edc16c39+ cf5) but on that car? Because that limits on the 2.0 170, for example on the 2.0 140 bhp there is.. With lambda 1 and turbo the stock, however, 100mm3 them not holding up to 4500 rpm if I remember well but is a little less.. I think the face on the 1150mg at 4500 rpm with the turbo stock with 0.1 and intercooler original then we are on the 93mm3 to those rides.
    The limiter that limits on the 170 is present also on the edc17c49 and c69 for example. Then see what changes ****llo mechanical between a 140 and a 170 hp and (maybe) you'll find the problem

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    The main difference in the mechanics between 170 and 140cv resides in the turbine gtb1446vz on 140cv and gtb1549 on 170cv... So you are telling me that I have to search for this decline of iq in the maps turbo?

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    8v or 16v with edc16c39, nothing changes the limiters iq are always those, and there are individual bits to unlock but they are all maps.
    You have worked on this ecu (edc16c39+ cf5) but on that car? Because that limits on the 2.0 170, for example on the 2.0 140 bhp there is.. With lambda 1 and turbo the stock, however, 100mm3 them not holding up to 4500 rpm if I remember well but is a little less.. I think the face on the 1150mg at 4500 rpm with the turbo stock with 0.1 and intercooler original then we are on the 93mm3 to those rides.
    The limiter that limits on the 170 is present also on the edc17c49 and c69 for example. Then see what changes ****llo mechanical between a 140 and a 170 hp and (maybe) you'll find the problem
    Of course, from 2500 to 4500, the decline in iq and in proportion to the pressure drop in the turbo stechio.. anyway, the limiters are not mirror ammeno that are not map undefined in the view my and can be.. I am not an expert, but I have only mapped a giulietta 170cv that a 147 ducati corse, and the limiters of the 8v were not enough to unlock the iq
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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    Of course, from 2500 to 4500, the decline in iq and in proportion to the pressure drop in the turbo stechio.. anyway, the limiters are not mirror ammeno that are not map undefined in the view my and can be.. I am not an expert, but I have only mapped a giulietta 170cv that a 147 ducati corse, and the limiters of the 8v were not enough to unlock the iq
    I will tell you that the limiters iq are the same. Do you have a log in fourth gear in which to inject more than 90mm3 at high rpm?

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    Citazione Originally Written by bmw320cd Visualizza Messaggio
    The main difference in the mechanics between 170 and 140cv resides in the turbine gtb1446vz on 140cv and gtb1549 on 170cv... So you are telling me that I have to search for this decline of iq in the maps turbo?
    Change enough things between 140 and 170 and don't fixate only on the things that give performance also.
    However, it also changes the head between the two, I've made some 140 with turbo, 170 and the amount of air between the two is quite evident

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    8v or 16v with edc16c39, nothing changes the limiters iq are always those, and there are individual bits to unlock but they are all maps.
    You have worked on this ecu (edc16c39+ cf5) but on that car? Because that limits on the 2.0 170, for example on the 2.0 140 bhp there is.. With lambda 1 and turbo the stock, however, 100mm3 them not holding up to 4500 rpm if I remember well but is a little less.. I think the face on the 1150mg at 4500 rpm with the turbo stock with 0.1 and intercooler original then we are on the 93mm3 to those rides.
    The limiter that limits on the 170 is present also on the edc17c49 and c69 for example. Then see what changes ****llo mechanical between a 140 and a 170 hp and (maybe) you'll find the problem
    However, as you say, I seem to understand that ****llo hardware, there is a difference and that is the cause of this problem of decrease in IQ in 4-5-6 gear. However, this does not mean that the maps change are different between the 140 and 170, may be that on the 140 are not active maps and 170 and is therefore limited. I understood well or am I wrong?

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    I meant the 120cv 8v I have understood you correctly and you said a reality of the facts.
    Log NW I only have my 8v that comes a little more than 85 to 4500 from 2500 to 100.
    Anyway, limiters or not, the resolution is the one mentioned above and the facts speak for themselves.
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    Citazione Originally Written by GPoint Visualizza Messaggio
    However, as you say, I seem to understand that ****llo hardware, there is a difference and that is the cause of this problem of decrease in IQ in 4-5-6 gear. However, this does not mean that the maps change are different between the 140 and 170, may be that on the 140 are not active maps and 170 and is therefore limited. I understood well or am I wrong?
    Is exact on the 140 is not active

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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    I meant the 120cv 8v I have understood you correctly and you said a reality of the facts.
    Log NW I only have my 8v that comes a little more than 85 to 4500 from 2500 to 100.
    Anyway, limiters or not, the resolution is the one mentioned above and the facts speak for themselves.
    The limiters on all the edc16c39 are the same, only that on the 170 there is one thing that restricts that on the other there is

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    The limiters on all the edc16c39 are the same, only that on the 170 there is one thing that restricts that on the other there is
    The problem is that there is not the damos to give himself a hand... One of chroma seen and reviewed, idem 159 but nothing that....
    On ori 140 and 170 and the present, then one is also doing a comparison of ' find the differences...
    Each solution is precluded....

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