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    Hello tranky, I agree with Errecinque... time ago, in a trial I need 32 degrees of injection, and I used the 25 ppms and 7 dpms... when I do these tests I don't go more than 8 degrees dpms (10 for me and' the maximum), however, you have to try and rely as much as possible, of your feelings since that you, like me, you are just a fan and do not have the right equipment! The 156 in question constrictor digesting quietly in the 25 degrees of advance, on another occasion, a 147 instead murava a lot (in both cases, the fumes acceptable)...

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    Citazione Originally Written by alxcrs Visualizza Messaggio
    Hello tranky, I agree with Errecinque... time ago, in a trial I need 32 degrees of injection, and I used the 25 ppms and 7 dpms... when I do these tests I don't go more than 8 degrees dpms (10 for me and' the maximum), however, you have to try and rely as much as possible, of your feelings since that you, like me, you are just a fan and do not have the right equipment! The 156 in question constrictor digesting quietly in the 25 degrees of advance, on another occasion, a 147 instead murava a lot (in both cases, the fumes acceptable)...
    Thank you friend, I certainly commend what has been said and I don't go over 24 degrees, at least on the first test, the less I'm clear that in ppms, I have the threshold of non-masonry and the dpms is below the threshold of risk declared.
    I assume anyway that the 156 it-yourself option which is mentioned both a 16v and from what has been said above has threshold degree greater than 8v.. or maybe not, and it's a 8v.. it was so much to say..
    Thank you all for the clarification.. it is hard to learn such information if it is not shared by those in the know and kicked us in the head..
    You did a great job. Thanks 1k
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    Sorry I'm intruding, I also in the post,

    I am in my car a 535d 6 cylinder in-line with edc16c35
    ori has 26° of advance and 29° of the time injected, and then inject
    3° after tdc, of course at maximum rpm and load.

    Now I've tried to make a mod in which spremevo the most out of this engine,
    the result is 38°, injected at the maximum and decrease in the rpm lower and lower loads.

    Now reading that the alfa 159 also comes with 40° of advance is of the soi, which is injected into and knowing what comes my,
    my it seems strange that you are not able to exceed 25°.

    I wanted to point out that, however, I am also of the idea that an advance excessive damages to the bushings for the too much pressure generated
    in my case, an increase of 200 Bar, however, that it is also true that at high speeds, for the rest of the table, we are well below 25°, we say that my increases
    on the soi,main, and post is not disaccostano of more than 5° from the original in the areas of cruise, perhaps it is slightly delayed at low engine speeds and loads to make the engine more elastic and park

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    ah sorry for the 159 I mean with the original map is not modified

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    Citazione Originally Written by flamingsn3Ak3r Visualizza Messaggio
    ah sorry for the 159 I mean with the original map is not modified
    Get a diagnosis and check things out actual before saying certain statements, because you might be mistaken..
    1) there is a limiter advances, and over 30 degrees is not to be
    2) the value of 40 degrees is not used as it does not use the injection which is given that value
    3) also on your bmw rivedrei good things

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Get a diagnosis and check things out actual before saying certain statements, because you might be mistaken..
    1) there is a limiter advances, and over 30 degrees is not to be
    2) the value of 40 degrees is not used as it does not use the injection which is given that value
    3) also on your bmw rivedrei good things
    I love.. beyond a certain point, you walls to the beast, the factors can be many, other than the limiter because the rail pressure does not support, the time is not enough or the inj are worth...
    Friend take this opportunity to ask you a question...you know in that area is leased, this limiter advances on edc16c39 alfa/fiat (in my case) ?
    I tried a sieve but I have not found anything about it...
    Thanks
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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    I love.. beyond a certain point, you walls to the beast, the factors can be many, other than the limiter because the rail pressure does not support, the time is not enough or the inj are worth...
    Friend take this opportunity to ask you a question...you know in that area is leased, this limiter advances on edc16c39 alfa/fiat (in my case) ?
    I tried a sieve but I have not found anything about it...
    Thanks
    Immediately after the last map advances.

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Immediately after the last map advances.
    I swear to you that I do not find it.. I am attaching the file ORI in case you want me to point out?
    I can only find lines climbing immediately after, and at the end something that has a value of 22 (the maximum degrees golds) but I don't know if it is that... you 1d1430..
    I pray you to the point of showing me this mystery that we are out crazy!!
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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    I swear to you that I do not find it.. I am attaching the file ORI in case you want me to point out?
    I can only find lines climbing immediately after, and at the end something that has a value of 22 (the maximum degrees golds) but I don't know if it is that... you 1d1430..
    I pray you to the point of showing me this mystery that we are out crazy!!
    They are not at the pc now, however if it is a 8v is not a 30 degrees fixed but is made to the lineup. This is the first map after the advances, you can't get it wrong the bp immediately after the limiter.
    On the 8v size 25.92 degrees, it seems to me

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    I have never mapped a 159 and I have never seen a file,
    as I wrote, I found people who spoke
    of these famous 40°, and I gave the example that between my 26°
    and these alleged 40° to say that it is not possible to get there it seems strange to me.
    I open a small parenthesis, it depends on the construction of the bearings, i.e.
    how many MPa resist going to anticipate the injection may be, as of course they all say
    a damage or not.

    However, you have already mapped the 535d? it is only a question to confront us

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