Giulietta 2.0 170

[jacktheripper2]

On my I have 5 maps, the last 4 BP related to IQ are 65 70 75 80. To 70x4000Rpm has advance of 23.5 for a duration of 20, 70x4250Rpm has advance 27, for duration of 21. Going up the last 2 BP (75 and 80) at 4000Rpm I advance of 28 and then from the pb to the previous (3750Rpm begins to climb). The original you are right to say that those rides do not get to more than 70. Anyway, I redid the advances since the 80\85 IQ to get there, at least up to the fourth gear, and, in fact, to equal the IQ of the motor to me seems to rise more quickly. I just went to change where the advance payments were very high, trying to keep me more or less 1\2 degrees before TDC. I don't know if it is correct, as the logic I took inspiration from the map Ori my GT 1900 where the advances ended up about a couple of degrees before TDC, and reading some very interesting discussions on the forum, where you spoke. I hope that as the logic is correct, I would not like to break the engine.

For the fact that the machine limits in the fifth and sixth, I'm doing logs and testing on the maps lambda and on some maps after the request torque to the pedal, I gave a look to that of a 159 with the same engine and I have seen some differences. It seems that in the lower gears do not have the time limit, instead of the more long you. Also, it seems to me (I'm not 100% sure) that the limits of a particular IQ, in fact, in a map that I had as the limit of 85 I restricted to 75 to about 4000Rpm. In another test where I set up the 90 I restricted to 80, but I'm not sure. Can't i do log every day, and perhaps a certain condition changes.

Try to make a log ori, with the advances and you'll see the degrees of the real you. However, your reasoning must be good and quiet, not breaking the engine, especially with the iq, the maps after the pedal, the power torque curves, it seems to me.. you can also put them to 0.. not active.

[GPoint]

Try to make a log ori, with the advances and you'll see the degrees of the real you. However, your reasoning must be good and quiet, not breaking the engine, especially with the iq, the maps after the pedal, the power torque curves, it seems to me.. you can also put them to 0.. not active.

In these days the heir permitting, I should try some changes on the lambda and I'll try to do here log with map golds for the advance payments. However, already reading the various maps it is clear that in the areas set in advance at 28 degrees we will never :-)
Comparing my map with that of the 159 the same engine, I saw a map that identifies it as a torque limiter to the wheel, it works in the negative, but is active? Or is needed for ABS, VDC... and company?

[Errecinque]

Try to make a log ori, with the advances and you'll see the degrees of the real you. However, your reasoning must be good and quiet, not breaking the engine, especially with the iq, the maps after the pedal, the power torque curves, it seems to me.. you can also put them to 0.. not active.

Those curves and them after the maps pedal (a map without a BP, and that the damos croma does not report the description right? I have seen moddate into the files of the illustrious preparers (including one paid for mine when I still did not know what it was a map), I confirm that you do not need to anything?

[bmw320cd]

exactly the same problem on a giulietta 2.0 170cv edc16c39
classic limiters iq unlocked (speed , water temperature , engine speed , conditions , etc.)
lim torque rise , pedal ditto , but in 5a and 6a limit always seems to return the original
while up to 3 you hear a huge difference compared to the original...
I have made several log and here is what comes out

the map nm/mm3 is already informed that stock at 4000 rpm and 400nm should give 80mm3, and also that at 4500 rpm, with 400nm must give even 95mm3


now I have these requests in the pedal - values of the limiter - conversion nm/mm3 (iq/nm request) - the values read from the log - gear 3a - 4a - 5a

3000rpm = 425nm - 410nm ---> 85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)85mm3 - (5a) no
3500rpm = 415nm - 410nm ---> 85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)85mm3 - (5a)83mm3
4000rpm = 400nm - 412nm ---> the 83-85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)77mm3 - (5a)74mm3
4500rpm = 430nm - 430nm ---> 95mm3 - (3a)66mm3 - (4a)65mm3 - (5a)63mm3

I hope the schema is clear , then the engine rpm , the value of the pedal , the value of the limiter torque conversion nm/iq - values read from the log in the various gears (3a-4a-5a)
as you can see, it limits frightfully from the 5th onwards , in fact from the impression of being firm
it is almost 1 year that I throw in now , but does not come ac****I put also the file ori and mod with which I read those values
I hope to get ac**** I did a lavorone me in 2d all the maps are in , the various limiters iq according to the conditions etc etc

[GPoint]

exactly the same problem on a giulietta 2.0 170cv edc16c39
classic limiters iq unlocked (speed , water temperature , engine speed , conditions , etc.)
lim torque rise , pedal ditto , but in 5a and 6a limit always seems to return the original
while up to 3 you hear a huge difference compared to the original...
I have made several log and here is what comes out

the map nm/mm3 is already informed that stock at 4000 rpm and 400nm should give 80mm3, and also that at 4500 rpm, with 400nm must give even 95mm3


now I have these requests in the pedal - values of the limiter - conversion nm/mm3 (iq/nm request) - the values read from the log - gear 3a - 4a - 5a

3000rpm = 425nm - 410nm ---> 85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)85mm3 - (5a) no
3500rpm = 415nm - 410nm ---> 85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)85mm3 - (5a)83mm3
4000rpm = 400nm - 412nm ---> the 83-85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)77mm3 - (5a)74mm3
4500rpm = 430nm - 430nm ---> 95mm3 - (3a)66mm3 - (4a)65mm3 - (5a)63mm3

I hope the schema is clear , then the engine rpm , the value of the pedal , the value of the limiter torque conversion nm/iq - values read from the log in the various gears (3a-4a-5a)
as you can see, it limits frightfully from the 5th onwards , in fact from the impression of being firm
it is almost 1 year that I throw in now , but does not come ac****I put also the file ori and mod with which I read those values
I hope to get ac**** I did a lavorone me in 2d all the maps are in , the various limiters iq according to the conditions etc etc

I also resolved shortly, despite all the limiters you mentioned, the various requests to the pedal, lim, torque and lambda, in the higher gears continues to limit.

[cinqueturbo]

I have downloaded again the file but what kind of mod are you doing? Deceived or Informed?

for the informed, there is a discussion that maybe you can give a hand http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...jt-vt9799.html

[bmw320cd]

I have downloaded again the file but what kind of mod are you doing? Deceived or Informed?

for the informed, there is a discussion that maybe you can give a hand http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...jt-vt9799.html

informed informed... in times inj are already rescaled up to 100mm3 , then we don't need to trick anything to make it go...
and then I would only need to keep 80-85mm3 in 5th and 6th gear and I would be already satisfied to the highest...
in fact, in the 1a-2a-3a-4a, the difference you notice with respect to the file .ori , but in 5a and 6a back to the original , to witness the iq that falls dramatically...

[bmw320cd]

I've given it a deep read in that thread indicated by r5... but nothing "new" found...
the limiters iq that has touched him , are the same that I touched I ... at least so I think , surely there will be something that I do not find or do not attenziono , but I can not find it...

[tranky]

Unlocked all the bits about the IQ.. Done several times as you say without result.. as soon as I sbroccato and I did the test from the crazy, the car was flying... There are limiters scattered also (I think) on the maps to zero with only the BP. Changing everything is unlocked and no damage.

[cinqueturbo]

informed informed... in times inj are already rescaled up to 100mm3 , then we don't need to trick anything to make it go...
and then I would only need to keep 80-85mm3 in 5th and 6th gear and I would be already satisfied to the highest...
in fact, in the 1a-2a-3a-4a, the difference you notice with respect to the file .ori , but in 5a and 6a back to the original , to witness the iq that falls dramatically...

when a man with the ECU informed meets a man with the ECU Deceived, the one with the ECU informed is a beaten man.. Sergio Leone