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    Citazione Originally Written by tidus1985 Visualizza Messaggio
    the pressure in the rail should be increased with caution, the increase in pressure increases the diameter of the cone formed by the nozzle, and so the possibility provided for remote low increments of pulverize out by herom, and to ruin, if not to pierce then a piston, I where can I I prefer to have a pile of smoke and be original, on the processing spointe if not I will change the injectors, I stop to protect the engine, as a result, I have a 147 which runs from 80000km with turbo mod and various without problems
    Hi tidus,
    I have your same car, 120 hp, and I have to say that thanks to your mod I made a long study..
    regarding the pump, a rail, I agree fully, and saw that the pistons ori will never give excessive pressure, you risk more than the breaking of the pump, a recovery constant.
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    I agree, in fact, were only proofs to those pressures, because with the map deceived me ago error rail p091 092 one thinks of the pump to the fruit, regulator drv, etc.,
    with informed to 1750 all smooth. error occurs around the maximum demand at 3000 rpm with 95mm approx.

    I dream of putting to 1800bar any machine, and allow it so to life.

    even if abroad, on the forum, I often see that they work with ste and pressure, with down payments that are very high to stay in the TDC, already 3500giri.

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    Citazione Originally Written by puntospeed1.3 Visualizza Messaggio
    I agree, in fact, were only proofs to those pressures, because with the map deceived me ago error rail p091 092 one thinks of the pump to the fruit, regulator drv, etc.,
    with informed to 1750 all smooth. error occurs around the maximum demand at 3000 rpm with 95mm approx.

    I dream of putting to 1800bar any machine, and allow it so to life.

    even if abroad, on the forum, I often see that they work with ste and pressure, with down payments that are very high to stay in the TDC, already 3500giri.
    by mounting the pumps higher, you can do it.. for example I had a cp1h3/r70/10-89s original 147 120 hp but it gave me more trouble than the other.. for the cost of the review are passed to the pump lybra 2.4 cp1h3/r80/10-89s used.. now I have no problem with anything.. I will change the pump rail up to 1750 for the test and so far no problem and I am sure that I can climb up to 1900 up to speed.
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    we need to see with that amount it gave you trouble.
    then what is the maximum flow rate with 1600bar? 80mm3 ?

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    Citazione Originally Written by puntospeed1.3 Visualizza Messaggio
    we need to see with that amount it gave you trouble.
    then what is the maximum flow rate with 1600bar? 80mm3 ?
    about we are on the 80mm3 to 1600bar.. the question of the pump, a rail that gave trouble was not linked only to the map-rail, giving the bar, even only by increasing the advances with the map rail ori.. while the map is totally ori no boredom..
    sfatata the question that troubles the by only increasing the map rail, but even if it requires diesel fuel, the greater the file ori.
    these pumps are not really optimal.. should be anyway revised sooner or later while the other did not review and has 200000km and it goes to a sliver!
    I hope the servants to someone that information, at least not out crazy to understand how and why
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    The pump has a pressure regulator, by increasing the rail ca in recovery because even if the quantity and the same decreases the efficiency of the pump, without raising the rail goes into recovery when increases only tinj because it lacks proprip flow, and then drops the pressure to voltage drop and breaks, are die reasons. Usually up to 76mm3 the pumps hold up and the fiat goes well because from stock, even the 150hp li injects

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    Citazione Originally Written by tidus1985 Visualizza Messaggio
    The pump has a pressure regulator, by increasing the rail ca in recovery because even if the quantity and the same decreases the efficiency of the pump, without raising the rail goes into recovery when increases only tinj because it lacks proprip flow, and then drops the pressure to voltage drop and breaks, are die reasons. Usually up to 76mm3 the pumps hold up and the fiat goes well because from stock, even the 150hp li injects
    Well, of course not by changing the map-rail, and then the pressure, making requests iq more it just goes to empty the flute and the recovery is inevitable.
    The 150hp has only the map nm/iq calculated to 100mm3, but the pedal stops to 75mm3 as you said, in fact.
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    All clear.. I have a question.. rigiardo to the flow rate. If 80mm3 at 1600 we are almost at the limit. So how does l euro3 jtd 150hp with 1400bar base to 200cv. Has the.pump more small.

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    Citazione Originally Written by puntospeed1.3 Visualizza Messaggio
    All clear.. I have a question.. rigiardo to the flow rate. If 80mm3 at 1600 we are almost at the limit. So how does l euro3 jtd 150hp with 1400bar base to 200cv. Has the.pump more small.
    The capacity of the injectors, and maybe is larger and has a longer time.. I Think.. So the more payments pressures, say, standard on the pump side of the rail.
    The 120 hp has a 400cc so if 150cv has more, I assume that my assertion is correct, but only by mapping deceived.

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    However, to find out how much you can raise the pressure is not sufficient to know the limit of the sensor?

    does anyone know how get the sensor for my car? it seems to me get to 1800.

    If in the event the value is 1800, and I set the rail pressure accurate to 1800
    go into recovery?

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