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    Ok clear,****llo of equipment it takes both an obd system be a bdm to ecu especially for edc17 that have this anti-tuning that can be made by bdm ok, and what do you think of the size of the sport I have proposed is the Genius of their own bdm however, the costs are far higher than aliantech ( even if they do not have)

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    however, beginning with the right foot if it is with genius that alientech. I suggest, however, a tool that lets you make backup ,even if the serial port (obd)is a convenience
    but it could have its risks.

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    thanks obd75 I could explain better the discourse of the open,I think it's different to do it by obd or bdm if the ecu stops responding, and I do not have the backup and want to restore in bdm, I can do nothing because the backup in the obd is different from the bdm, I think this is so? and anyway alietech is the backup with kess and ktag?,and I ask for the difference between jtag and ktag

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    Citazione Originally Written by teamfox Visualizza Messaggio
    thanks obd75 I could explain better the discourse of the open,I think it's different to do it by obd or bdm if the ecu stops responding, and I do not have the backup and want to restore in bdm, I can do nothing because the backup in the obd is different from the bdm, I think this is so? and anyway alietech is the backup with kess and ktag?,and I ask for the difference between jtag and ktag
    Many times it also happens with mpps that blocks the ecu but there is the possibility of "force" writing and resumes.
    Obviously working in a bdm, the writing is direct on the flash and then not worry about any protocols of writing seen in the bdm is the point.point while with the obd is the point.iso.point.
    http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...hp?t-2547.html
    here you have the difference between jtag and ktag
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    For the question up in the obd you can only do the flash, while in the bdm to save all the memories flash e2p and eprom
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    thanks tranky,but I'm really a beginner because I don't know what are flash e2p and eprom of ecu I thought that was a memory only people I can explain now

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    Citazione Originally Written by teamfox Visualizza Messaggio
    thanks tranky,but I'm really a beginner because I don't know what are flash e2p and eprom of ecu I thought that was a memory only people I can explain now
    Quiet.. I don't know if you have skills on the PC.. the address is roughly similar.
    I am attaching a guide from read only to realize what you are talking about.. don't have to study it to memory since it can only make you more confusion than the other..
    Appunti_di_elaborazione_elettronica.zip
    Good read
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    So much for the indication, I say to you:
    The flash is the memory "volatile" of the ecu which contains information of load condition of the car
    The eprom contains the software running the information that calls the flash
    the e2prom contains code such as: code key - codes - injectors etc..etc..
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    I see that you had some good answers ....

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    I'm sorry friend if I have passed under the curve, but are yet another motorist inside!
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