Map 156 1.9 115 2004 edc15c7 - opinions

[Pasticciona0]

Hello everyone, after several months of study I have come to the almost conclusion of my first map. But I have some doubts, because in the test, it seemed to me (let's talk about feeling though) that the car reacts in a manner substantially different from the ori like I had hoped.
I wanted to ask the opinions of you more experienced than me on this map. load ori and mod
I thank you in advance

Alfa 156 1.9 115 2004 edc15c7.rar

[cinqueturbo]

You're Imaginative.. you raised a 1 BP in the whole, and would inject 100mg?
you're not consistent if you do a map "for example, turbo or injection zoned MAP1" you have to give the same increase to the other maps..
that's too soon of rpm and load, and come to miss high..
the map key is not lai view 075720..
Maps Pedal and diesel set a quantity and make it reach to all maps that are not a "7500 and the other at 11500
Torque limiter ? I've seen a prototype of NASA?
Enrichment in acceleration and a ****work.. and for drag racing?
Rail pressure can go even if I would give an increase in fixed "for example, 500 Bars" not in the % or how you have calculated you ,surge them, you have calculated with an algebraic formula?
EGR OK,
do things with the policy that will be better and will last longer is the machine...

[Pasticciona0]

You're Imaginative.. you raised a 1 BP in the whole, and would inject 100mg?
you're not consistent if you do a map "for example, turbo or injection zoned MAP1" you have to give the same increase to the other maps..
that's too soon of rpm and load, and come to miss high..
the map key is not lai view 075720..
Maps Pedal and diesel set a quantity and make it reach to all maps that are not a "7500 and the other at 11500
Torque limiter ? I've seen a prototype of NASA?
Enrichment in acceleration and a ****work.. and for drag racing?
Rail pressure can go even if I would give an increase in fixed "for example, 500 Bars" not in the % or how you have calculated you ,surge them, you have calculated with an algebraic formula?
EGR OK,
do things with the policy that will be better and will last longer is the machine...

thanks for the reply cinqueturbo, a little pungent but the same is accepted...therefore, I don't understand where I left 7500 iq. what's wrong with the limiter torque (to understand what I'm wrong)? enrichment in acceleration I see asterisks instead of the adjective of the work, so I don't know if it sucks or not.... it would be very useful to have more accurate information on what is wrong..... and, however, are fanciful

[tranky]

I assume it was sarcasm to say.. do you go running to the GP co is in the machine?
You should first express well and clearly what kind of mapping you're trying to create, what changes do you have on the car and then maybe redo the mod.
I hope I was clear

[cinqueturbo]

thanks for the reply cinqueturbo, a little pungent but the same is accepted...therefore, I don't understand where I left 7500 iq. what's wrong with the limiter torque (to understand what I'm wrong)? enrichment in acceleration I see asterisks instead of the adjective of the work, so I don't know if it sucks or not.... it would be very useful to have more accurate information on what is wrong..... and, however, are fanciful

I'm sorry for having appeared Pungent, it was not my intention, I was writing with a smile on his lips and as it says our friend tranky ironically..

Sorry for not having noticed that you are a young Lady, Mrs. in short, a "YOU" I knew that we had even women in the field of electronics but can be counted on the fingers, makes sooo much pleasure

as it says tranky you need to establish what you want to do with this machine, you can pull a lot from this motor, but with mechanical stress type flywheel and clutch etc

But tonight I'm in pieces, to give you a hand step by step.. maybe do some high step that we control together, taking already reference the pungent directions..

[frenk85]

hello cupcake!if I'm not mistaken I was following a other 3d of your own,our user-munro,gave you advice on how moddare,(excellent).
let's start from the thing that should not be,that is, enrichment and acceleration, which for the record are two,the one you skipped along to his "limiter".
you've set the iq to 115mm3 and it is wrong for various reasons
1:your high pressure pump the original can't get to the iq.
2:if you still have the turbine's original according to me there is not enough "air" to that flow.
it is wrong also, the torque limiter always set to 115mm3.
have you missed the advance payments,the map smoke and other map times.

[Pasticciona0]

hello cupcake!if I'm not mistaken I was following a other 3d of your own,our user-munro,gave you advice on how moddare,(excellent).
let's start from the thing that should not be,that is, enrichment and acceleration, which for the record are two,the one you skipped along to his "limiter".

Hello Frank, you are, in fact, I've studied on the basis of the recommendations of the Munro...I know that there is a map pedal out of the driver but I don't know the address (they are not still so good to recognize the maps in 2d) and are not found in wiols with its damos, let alone the knowledge necessary to use it

you've set the iq to 115mm3 and it is wrong for various reasons
1:your high pressure pump the original can't get to the iq.
2:if you still have the turbine's original according to me there is not enough "air" to that flow.

as it can hold a maximum load capacity of the pump, ori?

it is wrong also, the torque limiter always set to 115mm3.

ok, so with that policy goes moddato the limiter a couple? I would not like NASA then call me to get me to do prototypes.

have you missed the advance payments,the map smoke and other map times.

the advances are conscious of having them sauteed (I don't have the faintest idea how to change this map for the moment!)..the map fumes instead I think I just changed it and have lowered the afr a couple of points......and also the map times, I seemed to have changed...
can you help me with more information on what I did wrong, and then what is the right way to change?
thanks in advance to all...

[Pasticciona0]

I'm sorry for having appeared Pungent, it was not my intention, I was writing with a smile on his lips and as it says our friend tranky ironically..

Sorry for not having noticed that you are a young Lady, Mrs. in short, a "YOU" I knew that we had even women in the field of electronics but can be counted on the fingers, makes sooo much pleasure

as it says tranky you need to establish what you want to do with this machine, you can pull a lot from this motor, but with mechanical stress type flywheel and clutch etc

Hello cinqueturbo, I just wanted to have the most sprints is the machine and get about 140cv (seen that many preparers say that up to 140 hp, the reliability of the machine is save and there are mechanical changes to be made)...I have not said that the machine in question is a 8 valves, and the flywheel monomassa...so the concern remains for the clutch.

But tonight I'm in pieces, to give you a hand step by step.. maybe do some high step that we control together, taking already reference the pungent directions..

ok, then I proceed with the questions:

"you raised a 1 BP in the whole, and would inject 100mg? what it means to have raised 1 BP?" what map are you talking about? map pedal? if you seem to me to have it raised from 50% pedal 1500rpm...for not making the car too nervous just infinity foot pedal......

that's too soon of rpm and load, and come to miss high..

at what rpm/load should I start then? 50%/1500rpm is not going well? I'd like to have some sort of effect "turbo lag"

the map key is not lai view 075720..

oh no, I would say that I view because I don't even know that the map is...I'm not good yet to recognize the maps in 2d...can you tell me which map is it?

Maps Pedal and diesel set a quantity and make it reach to all maps that are not a "7500 and the other at 11500

where I left 7500??

Torque limiter? I've seen a prototype of NASA?

and then how should I change it?

Enrichment in acceleration and a ****work.. and for drag racing?

here, too, as I need to change?

Rail pressure can go even if I would give an increase in fixed "for example, 500 Bars" not as a % or as you have them calculated, you

well come on, at least something is ok

limiters you have them calculated with an algebraic formula?

no! why? and how they should be calculated if it's not good as I made them?

EGR OK

it is the first thing I learned!

do things with the policy that will be better and will last longer is the machine..."

I would like to learn how to do things with policy!

Thanks in advance for the answers!

[cinqueturbo]

Map Sprint without calculations etc., simple and effective

Then let it be BP (position breakpoint) etc., outside of driver, we have to do 1 map to rejuvenate or spice up..

1° Map-injection Phase-you know what it is and lai's done well..
2° injection partialized (MAP1) Boost x RPM you went too soon and at low load, giving about 7% on the entire map.. "example" parts 1300 rpm 45% loading giving (10-18 % using the interpolation function
2° injection partialized (MAP2) Boost x RPM as above.. 25-35 %)
3° 075720 only map out drivers to Fix Turbo Pressure,
if you take reference from other maps, and you will understand where they are 1300giri and load.. I would start from the 4th panettone and 3-Bit on giving 120 -140 points
4° turbo Pressure (map1\1 120-140 points
5° - Pressure turbo f(temp.)2 (map1\1) as above
6° torque limiter parts from 1500 rpm 1500 points
7° injection partialized (map1\1) 1500 rpm 1500 points
8° limiter, rail pressure #1 1500 rpm 1000 points
9° limiter rail pressure (map1) as above
10° rail pressure (map1\1) 1500 rpm 500 points

let me a Step in the control..

[Pasticciona0]

Map Sprint without calculations etc., simple and effective

Then let it be BP (position breakpoint) etc., outside of driver, we have to do 1 map to rejuvenate or spice up..

1° Map-injection Phase-you know what it is and lai's done well..
2° injection partialized (MAP1) Boost x RPM you went too soon and at low load, giving about 7% on the entire map.. "example" parts 1300 rpm 45% loading giving (10-18 % using the interpolation function
2° injection partialized (MAP2) Boost x RPM as above.. 25-35 %)
3° 075720 only map out drivers to Fix Turbo Pressure,
if you take reference from other maps, and you will understand where they are 1300giri and load.. I would start from the 4th panettone and 3-Bit on giving 120 -140 points
4° turbo Pressure (map1\1 120-140 points
5° - Pressure turbo f(temp.)2 (map1\1) as above
6° torque limiter parts from 1500 rpm 1500 points
7° injection partialized (map1\1) 1500 rpm 1500 points
8° limiter, rail pressure #1 1500 rpm 1000 points
9° limiter rail pressure (map1) as above
10° rail pressure (map1\1) 1500 rpm 500 points

let me a Step in the control..

Here. I hope I have done the right map out of the driver. However, as soon as you have a moment can you explain to me even the why of each of these changes..so I can understand the criterion by which you edit it, otherwise I can not learn thank you