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  1. #101
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    Citazione Originally Written by switing63 Visualizza Messaggio

    Let's say that the MAF sensor will show a value of 630 mg/cycle at 2000 rpm and then trying it in the map, fumes or lamdba, the corresponding value is 1330, the calculation that results is 1.33*14,5=19,285 and, therefore, if I divide 630 to 19,285 = 32,67 are already mm3 not mg of diesel
    wrong...if you split the mg air to the afr resulting from the calculation always mg then the weight of the diesel.
    the edc16c work in mm3 then the volume to convert the fuel oil in mg per mm3 of the usa the conversion is 0.85.
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    Citazione Originally Written by switing63 Visualizza Messaggio
    Sorry if I take advantage of your expertise, but this map is also present in the EDC16c8?
    you edc16c8 and c39 are very similar.
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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    you edc16c8 and c39 are very similar.
    I have little time today and tomorrow but I...I all and 2 in the machines of the family these ecu's and the c8 differs from the c39 for the dpf I think.

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    400cc air-x 1.293 = 517.2 mg of air are in the cylinder. Now I said that to 68mg (=80mm3) x14.7 = 999.6 the mg of air necessary to maintain the afr. 999.6/517.2 = 1,92 bar of pressure necessary to compress 999.6 mg of air in the cylinder. If the turbine ori holds this pressure, we can begin to moddare maps turbo giving it this limit. If we do not do a step at a time is the map we end up in 2020....and there we can star all day on the forum....

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    erre in your calculation do not take into account the VE..
    in addition, even if the same as above was 100% you still have to sotrarre to the calculation of the press, atmospheric in addition to density as a function of the pressure itself and the temperature of the humidity..etc..etc...
    rely only on the maf.
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    in essence, the calculations are fine up to a certain point.
    beyond this,experience, policy,knowledge,etc...
    1.9 bar+1 atmo are really a lot for a gt1544v ori..
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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    in essence, the calculations are fine up to a certain point.
    beyond this,experience, policy,knowledge,etc...
    1.9 bar+1 atmo are really a lot for a gt1544v ori..
    How much it can hold, according to you, this turbine? But tell me also what is the VE that now eludes me...thanks. I know that there is to become crazy with the calculations, but in time lost among all there is always to learn something and see how we can make drinking I'm at the delta without smoking too much....

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    Guys doing a search on the internet the delta should fit a garrett 803956,munro will be confused with the turbine of the 1.6 Peugeot.I try to do some research to find the features of this turbo even if I read that these turbines are already working with high pressure on the unit to compensate for the lowering of the compression ratio that has the 1.6 mjt compared to 1.9... should therefore in my opinion to hold up for at least a little more.update tomorrow with the results of the research

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    Citazione Originally Written by Errecinque Visualizza Messaggio
    How much it can hold, according to you, this turbine? But tell me also what is the VE that now eludes me...thanks. I know that there is to become crazy with the calculations, but in time lost among all there is always to learn something and see how we can make drinking I'm at the delta without smoking too much....
    to know how much pressure is holding the gtb1144z it would take the compressor map, that is the only way to be sure to know from where we can push with the press..***** o remember that the pressure is only one thing about if you take a turbine smart, for example, is the li pump 3bar will give out less air in the volume/weight of the turbine fiat coupe turbo T3 at a bar...just to understand...for VE, here is a link
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    in other words, the Ve is the quantity of real air that the engine ingurgità once it has passed through the air filter,piping,ducts, valves, etc....usually for a 2 valves per cylinder(we are talking about aspirated or turbo being sucked in is the same thing) have a Ve of about 80-85%,for a 4-valve rises to 90-95%, this means that in the case of a 1.6 l or 1600 cc with a Ve of 95% in a cylinder instead of resisting 400cc air there are 380 cc of air.
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