Opinion the map C2 VTS

[Macchinista]

Hello all, I wanted an opinion from someone more? expert, if I'm doing well or are out of the way with this mapping.

Thanks to those who give me? advice and criticism.

File ori: http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...ll=1#post84714

Mod files: Citroen C2 1.6 16v 125 Hp Bosch ME 7.4.5 HW 0261208907 SW 1037379167 MOD.zip

[giannimini]

injection you have emaciated, because as I said in the other discussion higher values smagriscono lower fat, in fact, to the high, if you open the coffee machine in 3d, you realize that the values decrease significantly... then decrease the valiori if you want to fatten...

the value of gasoline at the limiter ? too high, a symptom that you are lean to maximum rpm... the well-known with the original machine is what?

ditto for injection at full load

the limelight from the heroes for enrichment and acceleration, I think so smagrisci well as in all 3 maps

butterfly-I know in copsa you rifersicono values. if ? the speed? opening and closing or something else... I don't toccherei and that's it.

air mass meter, salt too repentivamente as values... maybe ? the map of the speed? of the butterfly... not even toccherei

advances.-.. be the values go up and then make me think that at low speeds are drawn to have the coffee machine ir? ready and high are relaxed then you have to wrestle you... I would try the amcchina only touching on this map, and giving lower values of some point... if the car ? pi? ready means that you have to put down payments pi? pulled wisdom nothing... try to change maybe just the ones around 4000 rpm so try the machine and eventualmnete to note the changes

idem advance correction that should be the same thing in theory

torque limiter increases a p? the whole to not have the machine choked, but ? always one to try I would try with a 10% percentage.

injection flaw well as in percentage, while the advance in fixed values

the rev limiter leave it the original saw ? 7000

however, on gasoline, we must be careful, for me, right now I'd just change the advance up to 4000 to 5000 rpm to see how it goes... and then for the injection of the will only by controlling the lambda in a manner to control the fuel mixture.

if you turn thin ? one thing if you spin with advances too tight ? another... if it advances too fat as a result... do not anticipate ever so much. turn advance ? worse than turn lean.

if crackles very after the map ? symptom of mixture is lean and/or too early, and then not be happy with it... :-)

let me know how it goes.

I would do so.

for? try it without the scan. I noticed that the limiter up to 7300 in one of the maps, maybe it varies depending on the temperature. hello and let me know how it goes ;-)Annex 7268modCITROEN C2 1.6 16V 125 HP BOSCH ME 7.zip

[sergiot]

comment on the mapping presented in the first post.
the comments are in the order in which you present as addresses
advances power: you have changed from the met? load up. the entity? ? acceptable but you would have had more? effectiveness is also increased to pi? low loads.
the change concerns the 2 maps the same, no correction advance changed.
mapping system: it's useless to change it
pedal mapping: I don't understand why? dec
mapping of torque: increased slightly, just enough, perhaps the only change that makes you feel something.
mapping of carburation: you have emaciated slightly, it does not hurt, but considers that the carburation of the original ? gi? good. rather, in this map, no point should be less than 80h.
mapping air flow butterfly : you do not need to touch it
????mapping of the fuel mixture?????: do not touch it
I don't see finishing touches to the rev limiter (maybe me ? escaped)
also, it seems to me that some of the mappings that are written in 8-bit-you've changed to a 16-bit
you have to fix something.
damage don't do, it's a bit of order we make? well

[giannimini]

comment on the mapping presented in the first post.
the comments are in the order in which you present as addresses
advances power: you have changed from the met? load up. the entity? ? acceptable but you would have had more? effectiveness is also increased to pi? low loads.
the change concerns the 2 maps the same, no correction advance changed.
mapping system: it's useless to change it
pedal mapping: I don't understand why? dec
mapping of torque: increased slightly, just enough, perhaps the only change that makes you feel something.
mapping of carburation: you have emaciated slightly, it does not hurt, but considers that the carburation of the original ? gi? good. rather, in this map, no point should be less than 80h.
mapping air flow butterfly : you do not need to touch it
????mapping of the fuel mixture?????: do not touch it
I don't see finishing touches to the rev limiter (maybe me ? escaped)
also, it seems to me that some of the mappings that are written in 8-bit-you've changed to a 16-bit
you have to fix something.
damage don't do, it's a bit of order we make? well

Hello Sergio, do you agree with me on the topic of that, by increasing the injection values on this map you get fat and not smagrisce as are convinced some and increasing the values in advance, you delay?

I have made a you tell me I have given points in the + anticipate % less to fatten you tell me if there a logic ? as there seemsC2VTS-OBD modificata.zip

If you increase loads whether the values of the injection advance go up, don't you think that the aumetare of the loads and rpm the engine wants to turn the pi? fat and less pulled of advances?

Then if you increase the values of injection tallow, if increases in those early delay.

As you have done at least as you have written you have done just the opposite, now I April the map from the pc to see

[sergiot]

If you increase loads whether the values of the injection advance go up, don't you think that the aumetare of the loads and rpm the engine wants to turn the pi? fat and less pulled of advances?

calm, you are doing take the "frenzy modificandi" bad disease that causes us to make changes where they are not needed.

attention that I do not answer to you using your tools (I think ecm) that I have.
when I give you the names of mappings and functions describe what they really are, I don't use those fancy names that use ecm ( but at least 20% of the righteous), and I don't know which axes ve presents them

and also always remember that the units and the mappings need to work well the engines, and not as it seems to understand " the motors serve to justify what ? written in the mappings"

I in my well-known that in the carburation points to the increasing rpm decrease ditto for the advance

in the case of this c2 we are talking about
advances: increasing the points you increase the advance
carburetion: " in the maps that you are modifying" to fatten you decrease the points.

[giannimini]

calm, you are doing take the "frenzy modificandi" bad disease that causes us to make changes where they are not needed.

attention that I do not answer to you using your tools (I think ecm) that I have.
when I give you the names of mappings and functions describe what they really are, I don't use those fancy names that use ecm ( but at least 20% of the righteous), and I don't know which axes ve presents them

and also always remember that the units and the mappings need to work well the engines, and not as it seems to understand " the motors serve to justify what ? written in the mappings"



in the case of this c2 we are talking about
advances: increasing the points you increase the advance
carburetion: " in the maps that you are modifying" to fatten you decrease the points.

Advance carburation? Not ? ignition advance spark plug one of the tables?

[Macchinista]

comment on the mapping presented in the first post.
the comments are in the order in which you present as addresses
advances power: you have changed from the met? load up. the entity? ? acceptable but you would have had more? effectiveness is also increased to pi? low loads.
the change concerns the 2 maps the same, no correction advance changed.
mapping system: it's useless to change it
pedal mapping: I don't understand why? dec
mapping of torque: increased slightly, just enough, perhaps the only change that makes you feel something.
mapping of carburation: you have emaciated slightly, it does not hurt, but considers that the carburation of the original ? gi? good. rather, in this map, no point should be less than 80h.
mapping air flow butterfly : you do not need to touch it
????mapping of the fuel mixture?????: do not touch it
I don't see finishing touches to the rev limiter (maybe me ? escaped)
also, it seems to me that some of the mappings that are written in 8-bit-you've changed to a 16-bit
you have to fix something.
damage don't do, it's a bit of order we make? well

Thanks for the advice sergiot, tomorrow I fix the maps are wrong and you place a new file. I did a bit of confusion with the maps!!!

[fabiovts88]

I have made a you tell me I have given points in the + anticipate % less to fatten you tell me if there a logic ? as there seemsC2VTS-OBD modificata.zip

[sergiot]

I have made a you tell me I have given points in the + anticipate % less to fatten you tell me if there a logic ? as there seemsC2VTS-OBD modificata.zip

your changes are correct, but:
ignition advance you moved very little, and it would be better to change, even at low loads
mixture you put on too much, to the point that you will lose power tap it a little, it should be already? well
the 2? the map of the fuel mixture should not be touched
well the limiter, rpm is you, for me they are too many.
maps pedal does not go down, also changing ? of entity? imperceptible

[fabiovts88]

hello machinist we have the same car ? well I'm trying to learn how to map l car petrol .. sin ke, I can't see your file...

I wanted to understand all the values in theory you give negative both in advance that injection right?