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    Map VGT [variable geometry control]

    Someone I would know how to explain well because this should never be touched redoing the map ?
    By changing the values of VGT in theory, you could get more pressure at all speeds ..

    2nd question : in 3d [ecm] the value that is reported in percentage would be the opening or closing of the palette ?

    the maximum value of % 74,4 (then it is open or closed, 74.4% ? ) while the minimum is 46,1 .. Why not come to the 100's and 0's ?

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    The topic ? very large, let's say that normally best to leave them original, why? the pressure can? however, increase due to the increase in the diesel fuel, and in many cases instead ? need to decrementarle to reduce the peak higher that you would have after making the change. Pi? the percentage will decrease, and more? the gas flow without increase of the pressure in the intake.
    Another matter: do not you get 100% or 0 why? non ce n'? reason in the sense that you can? to obtain the required pressure without reaching the maximum of the vgt and not c'? need to get to 0 to bring down the pressure to high.

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    Sorry, but if you increase the grid increases the percentage of opening of the blades? Usually low ? this was closed to high opens.

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    It is just what it says sandro.. if you increase % our that the vanes are closed ( abassano) and then increases the pressure on the suction
    and vice versa.. lower the%, the more you open.. and, consequently, more air goes without operating the impellers.. ( qnd relatively low pressure, if high rpm)
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    Citazione Originally Written by sighline Visualizza Messaggio
    It is just what it says sandro.. if you increase % our that the vanes are closed ( abassano) and then increases the pressure on the suction
    and vice versa.. lower the%, the more you open.. and, consequently, more air goes without operating the impellers.. ( qnd relatively low pressure, if high rpm)
    exact, precise? that the adjustment of the vanes does not work as one might mistakenly think closing part of the duct, bens? by varying THE DIRECTION OF the VELOCITY? in order to take advantage of pi? kinetic energy to move the impeller discharge.

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    Citazione Originally Written by SandroMarciano Visualizza Messaggio
    exact, precise? that the adjustment of the vanes does not work as one might mistakenly think closing part of the duct, bens? by varying THE DIRECTION OF the VELOCITY? in order to take advantage of pi? kinetic energy to move the impeller discharge.
    the cursed triangle of the speed?..

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    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    the cursed triangle of the speed?..
    gi?, I am now studying turbomachinery

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    Citazione Originally Written by sighline Visualizza Messaggio
    Someone I would know how to explain well because this should never be touched redoing the map ?
    By changing the values of VGT in theory, you could get more pressure at all speeds ..
    do not change because then you dovrebber? also change the PID controls that oversee the operation of the system

    2nd question : in 3d [ecm] the value that is reported in percentage would be the opening or closing of the palette ?
    good question...in the vw to es for high rpm and high iq in the map you have high % duty cycle...so, it depends a p? as the constructor to set the system

    the maximum value of % 74,4 (then it is open or closed, 74.4% ? ) while the minimum is 46,1 .. Why not come to the 100's and 0's ?
    being that in most cases, the solenoids of the vgt working in Pwm, and then the duty-cycle send 100% of duty cycle to the solenoid means to send 12 volts...how much do you think that can last a n75 in these conditions??the 0 is not used because, however, the turbine also to the minimum or the dates of the condition must be ready to immediately give the pressure...

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    attention on some of the ecu, the value read in the Z-axis has to be converted...so do not always correspond to the real duty cycle n75...
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    rianimo the topic with the hope to understand more about what they do and how they change the P. I. D. management vgt, in the sense that I know what to do but I don't know what causes the value in the map, if the steo correction on the basis of what

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    very interested on the pid, and what it means to turn them off (as already said in many other threads). that put them at zero throughout the curve, or what.

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