I ask for an opinion on this map, and the first that I do, definitely missing a lot of stuff, I wanted to know if it's good approach or if I'm doing it all wrong, also I wanted to know if I have properly closed the swirl, and if the diagnosis I see DPF not present
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thanks to all
Hello,
Hello,
there are still many maps, however, with regard to the maps, the pedal should be good to start.
torque limiter is too low, if you make a comparison between maps pedal and rev limiter you will notice that the pedal request X nm of torque, but the limiter does not let you do it...
Map prex rail does not make sense to touch it, if not, increments the time of injection, most of the prex rail means more energy required to operate the pump, a rail, an effort that is not giving any advantage.
Working on the prex turbo without overdoing it with the increases in the limiters turbo you can take them safely to 2600 for the moment, keep in mind that the same turbine mounts the 147 ducati corse 170cv that has limiters 2700.
finally someone answers me, good maps pedal we are almost ok, limiter, torque increase, if you do not wish to increase the prex turbo, but work only in the timing inj and advances you can do??
ok, I've stretched the timing inj I think in a way congruent to where I increased the prex rail, turbo still I have not altered by choice, what do you think? I also increased the torque limiter
instead, for the DPF and the swirl what do I say??
Another council to continue with the work:
If you look at the map quantity? fuel injected, you will see that BP are already? scaled up to 100 mm3/inj then on this map ? necessary to intervene, in any case, I advise you to analyze the BP of 400 nm seen from the map the pedal require around 420 nm, you'll notice that are required 100mm3/inj.
A good thing would be to climb the BP of the map times to do in order to get to the 100mm3/inj instead of the current 80 (+5% increments that you have given).
Hello,
the DPF seems to be ok, but to the eye can sometimes miss a few points. what did you use to exclude it? did you already? physically removed from the car?
OK for the block of the swirl open.
OK lim torque
tinj can go if you want to work with the methodology of the maps wrong, prex rail still we are not there, consider also that the increments of tinj are not such as to having to take on the prex of the rail, in each case toccherei only the last 3 columns and spins a little more? high, the rest for now let ori.
The prex turbo for now, leave it gold if you're not touching it, however, if you want to otterene real gains you'll certainly have to work on that with the increase of the injected fuel you have to compensate with just the right amount of air that you can't give if not with a greater pressure of the turbine.
I used Once more some of the directions found here and there, the Dpf is already removed from the car by about 20K KM and I have no regenerations, but I diagnosed the car with a DPF, which let's say for the purpose of important not of interest but to get the job done ad hoc and I have to fix, and just wondering this, however, truly many thanks for the advice that you're giving me, you're one of the only ones who are doing it.....thanks again now the lighthouse some of the fixes and poster? a new map.Originally Written by paolo159
then I corrected the limiter rail, I have increased a little in the Tinj, as far as the fact of climbing the BP of the map times to do in order to get to the 100mm3 instead of the current 80 (+7% increase, which I have given), and still perhaps too difficult for me, however now some of the fixes I made.
ok, I can confirm that Time the job runs correctly and your car should not even give the display problem of the clogging to 1000%.
With regards to the presence of the dpf c'? a control bit so that it will be the car not equipped with the dpf, as soon as I have a moment I try and tell you where it is.
for Tinj ? pi? simple how many do you think.. here's the formula to calculate Tinj100 = Tinj80 + (Tinj80 -Ting60)
Said cos? without further explanation someone could argue about the accuracy of this formula, or on the fact that the result is really Tinj100, really? to have a Tinj100 real ? well pi? complicated why? you should consider many other factors, among which the opening time of the injectors to the different prex rail, however, with the formula you will have a tolerance of about 2 to 3 mm3 which ? pi? that acceptable for our purpose (to have the time to 102mm3 or 98mm3 instead of 100 is very good).
Not ? can, however, purely theoretical (for us mere mortals) to calculate the perfect time to have 100mm3, fiat tests with instrumentation suitable to verify these values.
The dear good Tidus1985 in a previous discussion here on the forum has dealt extensively with the topic calculation of the Tinj with interesting calculations of the opening times of the injectors, if you are interested in the topic also for the purpose of information from a look why? definitely worth a read.
Back to your map prex rail is fine for the moment, incrementerei still slightly limiter rail depending on the Temp and fuel but ? just a small suggestion ;-)
Map tinj 8 and 10 mm3 leave them gold, that amount? practically use it with the engine at idle, would only pi? incrementandoli without having advantages.
I'd work at least for now, only on tinj 30 40 60 80 calcolandoli for example, to get 35 50 70 100
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