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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di giarras
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    hydrogen generator on diesel vehicles

    I open this discussion in the survey since? I had the opportunity? see and try a mazda 5 transformed recently, the owner of the car in addition has given me information that I personally nn convince much since? are theoretically incompatible with what I have acquired a couple of years ago, some of you have had experiences about..anyway I approfondir? + this topic that could be interesting and with a lot of opportunities
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    Good topic !!
    According to my experience, what you see in the network and so far I have tried ? somewhat undersized for the real request by a diesel engine. In any case, building a super cell I can not understand from the point of view of energy, where it can be the fuel savings why? so much ? the current required to produce the HHO ( and to make it the alternator burns diesel in + ) to the final product ( HHO ) put back into the cycle does not succeed? never even reach the break-even point ( which would encourage at least the gain performance of the car )..
    however, I am open and willing to change my mind in front of arguments mathematically and consistently supported .

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di cicciogsr
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    I have in-depth speech and energetically speaking, the budget does not ? for nothing in favour of saving... for now we are very far from a solution that can affrancarci on fossil fuels, the production of oxyhydrogen with that type of cells ? a trivial than the energy it takes to produce it... the increases in performance for me are null and void, except that you can inject a large quantity? HHO... then in that case the address changes...

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    I agree with both of you, and may I add that according to me the only benefit that can? be pu? result from an optimization of the combustion, but it seems to me absurd that we face to save fuel at the end... the 2? the principle teaches!

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    Yes, they say that on some cars that drive has been installed and are able to do 3-4 km litre, with a charge for fitting around 600 euros without form maf/pdf,
    I still don't trust it,

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    According to my humble opinion, little is gained....we should work on biodiesel but it is not for the usual suspects...do you remember the Italian's declared? to extract the fuel from the garbage???they wanted to do outside..now you know where ??? in switzerland and st? working in total darkness? protected by the swiss government...
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    Citazione Originally Written by tezzero Visualizza Messaggio
    According to my humble opinion, little is gained....we should work on biodiesel but it is not for the usual suspects...do you remember the Italian's declared? to extract the fuel from the garbage???they wanted to do outside..now you know where ??? in switzerland and st? working in total darkness? protected by the swiss government...
    if you're referring to that self-styled engineer who is now working to cold fusion, know that the whole quellimmondizia who wanted to turn in hydrocarbons storage cupboard' just in different companies, warehouses and yards disused and now it seems to still be full.. and without concluding anything as fact by' always blame others for the failures..
    however, the checker on the mass air flow sensor to install on the car with hho ? a simple variable resistor to 1k, which serves to attenuate the signal sent to the ecu box? face to inject less fuel, and then lean .. so much so that that is less from the diesel, in the intentions of those who sell and made from the mixture of oxyhydrogen.
    I repeat that imho ? a pure rather that, since the cost does not recover anything, but only smenarci money.

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di cicciogsr
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    there are systems that create hydrocarbons from recycled plastic the ? been forbidden to use the fuel even within their company.. I have seen a service time f? in the tv... the solution c'? but not to be? never out of...

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    Do you remember Cricket?? He did see on TV, an engineer with an old fiat 850 (to understand the minibus of the sisters) that went to the water!!!
    In fact, you put it near the exhaust and breathing, said: People that's what I'm breathing in the exhaust pipe is water vapor!!!
    After the transmission was not able to more' nothing, all gone !!! The oil is a nasty beast !!!

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    Citazione Originally Written by Dragonfly Visualizza Messaggio
    Do you remember Cricket?? He did see on TV, an engineer with an old fiat 850 (to understand the minibus of the sisters) that went to the water!!!
    In fact, you put it near the exhaust and breathing, said: People that's what I'm breathing in the exhaust pipe is water vapor!!!
    After the transmission was not able to more' nothing, all gone !!! The oil is a nasty beast !!!
    guys... the perpetual motion have not yet been invented, wake up!!!

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