The problem of butterfly valves on the intake manifold Alfa 159 150 HP

[jared_poe]

Hi everyone I need an opinion: last week we lit a failure on my 159, a check is made in the workshop they told me that the problem ? on the butterfly valve (the plastic ones), located on the intake manifold, it seems to me that the call SWIRL.
Given that a colleague of mine on the same car has spent around 2500? for the fault of those valves which are separated and arrive on a piston, I would like to know if you have any advice to avoid this.
In these cases ? fitting better metal ones or just remove them and change the map?

[magi1984]

if you don't want to spend anything toglile, if you want to spend some money, put it in the metal

[rego88]

I have a 147 1.9 150hp, the same engine.... on my swirl I deleted.... ? was a ammattimento.... I had to disassemble the fuel pump, a lot of things.... after that I pulled off the manifold.... edited, removed the palette, attappati the holes and then I put under the motor of the swirl ******.... without anything connected ? them' and not bother.... but' I in diagnosis nn I had errors, I don't know how do you get errors....

[mecdoc]

togliele and put the caps I usually do so? and I have no more trouble

[jared_poe]

what kind of plugs should I put? then I have to change the map?
thanks for the replies guys

[rego88]

no no... no map change!! just leave the motor plugged in....

[blackwolf76]

The same change that is also on the mercedes CDI since 2000.

[mecdoc]

caps manifolds x delete srwill.rarI do them this size

[tezzero]

I confirm the removal of the butterflies with motor connected..no error and no map

[Team elettronica]

I confirm no error and the change of the map