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    How to choose the display 8/16/32 IEEE or Motorola?

    As topic, what are the basics to understand/to know which type of view is correct in the file that I'm viewing?

    The chart changes a lot depending on what you choose...and reading guides etc...also examples of machines I have seen that is only told to select for example the 16bit motorola and as max 16384 ... but for what reason?

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    it is a question I ask myself too, but given that I am logged in, hoping not to say the heresies, and that the more expert we explain, then, well, a tip I try to't just give you this.

    using the ecm, once you have chosen the right driver file ori you of the mapped areas.
    when you torovi with the "cursor" inside the area with the map you have no other choice that's the right one.
    if you look at the area where you select the display type of the mark black is on one type only and the others are not selectable.

    I give for granted that that is the one "right" and I select then for the rest of the file (even if I don't know what to do with the rest of the file). I also like the suggestion and if I have to open a map that I don't have drivers, look before viewing choose ecm for one of the same family and.... I copy

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    THE display varies depending on the power units.
    Factors and practical the advice that I give is:
    go to an id apparently known map type pedal
    to change the display until it appears visibly correct
    so you have the index of the map view.. of course, the story is a little particular but as an index of the beginning I would say that makes the idea
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    Citazione Originally Written by Makx Visualizza Messaggio
    it is a question I ask myself too, but given that I am logged in, hoping not to say the heresies, and that the more expert we explain, then, well, a tip I try to't just give you this.

    using the ecm, once you have chosen the right driver file ori you of the mapped areas.
    when you torovi with the "cursor" inside the area with the map you have no other choice that's the right one.
    if you look at the area where you select the display type of the mark black is on one type only and the others are not selectable.

    I give for granted that that is the one "right" and I select then for the rest of the file (even if I don't know what to do with the rest of the file). I also like the suggestion and if I have to open a map that I don't have drivers, look before viewing choose ecm for one of the same family and.... I copy
    Is that just tonight I noticed...from the 2d graph as soon as you enter in an area known self-rescala ... but I didn't know if it's reliable or not...also because then taking into the scale...of the times some of the information is cut off in the graphs.
    We will try even so ...choosing one of the same family...even if the problem is in the things to change out the driver (the thing that I'm trying to figure out still...since you are the first the very first weapons...I'm going back to guides,tutorials ....I also read the toilet paper )

    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    THE display varies depending on the power units.
    Factors and practical the advice that I give is:
    go to an id apparently known map type pedal
    to change the display until it appears visibly correct
    so you have the index of the map view.. of course, the story is a little particular but as an index of the beginning I would say that makes the idea
    Thanks for the response... but then the map varies as a function of the ecu? ...in the sense of the map the pedal does not always have that view? Or are you telling me that has the same "Layout" curves...but different views ?

    And "everything" very special... beautiful intense and complex

    You have charts with written or drawn as they should appear some types of maps? Because as I am new to this world, I don't know if I'm looking for an elephant... or a zebra to give you the idea.

    Greetings

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    Citazione Originally Written by Khendal Visualizza Messaggio
    Is that just tonight I noticed...from the 2d graph as soon as you enter in an area known self-rescala ... but I didn't know if it's reliable or not...also because then taking into the scale...of the times some of the information is cut off in the graphs.
    We will try even so ...choosing one of the same family...even if the problem is in the things to change out the driver (the thing that I'm trying to figure out still...since you are the first the very first weapons...I'm going back to guides,tutorials ....I also read the toilet paper )

    Thanks for the response... but then the map varies as a function of the ecu? ...in the sense of the map the pedal does not always have that view? Or are you telling me that has the same "Layout" curves...but different views ?

    And "everything" very special... beautiful intense and complex

    You have charts with written or drawn as they should appear some types of maps? Because as I am new to this world, I don't know if I'm looking for an elephant... or a zebra to give you the idea.

    Greetings
    ok.. let's start from the beginning with a premise.. exit optics and computer science, which here has virtually nothing to start.. don't have to do routing on balancers, or develop super*****the sql (the cone I also in the field of computer science and, unfortunately, it helps very little in this area)
    the map display is "correct" where it is self-imposed by the driver, but generally the view is always 16bit and varies from the ieee to motorola according to the vendor or to release the ecu.
    The maps have the brackpoint that give the index to the axes of the curves.
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    The correct display I from the eprom or the e2p or the microprocessor that are viewing it in the sw of the change...
    Not always is 16bit but can be 8-bit,look at the marelli nevertheless, for example, or 32-bit as the denso mounted on the ecu in the Subaru for one thing or can also be in floating point as some maps in ECU Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution..the 2d mode is only a graphical representation of the content of the hex dump of a given component that is always in hexadecimal format...
    I'll give it that for the vast majority of those who modify the ECU would be impossible to understand something in a sea of numbers and letters developers of sw editing have implemented the mode 2 and 3d..
    But at the dawn of the ecu the only way was to understand the language binary and hex..

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    The correct display I from the eprom or the e2p or the microprocessor that are viewing it in the sw of the change...
    Not always is 16bit but can be 8-bit,look at the marelli nevertheless, for example, or 32-bit as the denso mounted on the ecu in the Subaru for one thing or can also be in floating point as some maps in ECU Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution..the 2d mode is only a graphical representation of the content of the hex dump of a given component that is always in hexadecimal format...
    I'll give it that for the vast majority of those who modify the ECU would be impossible to understand something in a sea of numbers and letters developers of sw editing have implemented the mode 2 and 3d..
    But at the dawn of the ecu the only way was to understand the language binary and hex..
    Munro, so make them flippare worse..
    I would say start with an example and a good example is the edc16c39 enough used and easy to learn.
    I highly recommend everyone to strive to put into the above with the info given
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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    Munro, so make them flippare worse..
    I would say start with an example and a good example is the edc16c39 enough used and easy to learn.
    I highly recommend everyone to strive to put into the above with the info given
    In fact, I'm just taking that as a cue this ecu EDC16C39... and right here I've noticed this thing is reading online... that is, I open the file with ECM Titanium, I chose the exact driver...and I open the 2d view.
    At this point the ECM although I had already loaded the driver...and he knew already what it is...show me all with display 8bit IEEE and Zoom v to minimum or 32k with ECM2001 type... but in reality,' the correct display should be 16bit Motorola (as indicated in some guides, for example, to exclude the EGR with zoom to 16k).

    So then I opened this post ... to understand why...and how you can slowly put together the pieces of the puzzle

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    The correct display I from the eprom or the e2p or the microprocessor that are viewing it in the sw of the change...
    Not always is 16bit but can be 8-bit,look at the marelli nevertheless, for example, or 32-bit as the denso mounted on the ecu in the Subaru for one thing or can also be in floating point as some maps in ECU Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution..the 2d mode is only a graphical representation of the content of the hex dump of a given component that is always in hexadecimal format...
    I'll give it that for the vast majority of those who modify the ECU would be impossible to understand something in a sea of numbers and letters developers of sw editing have implemented the mode 2 and 3d..
    But at the dawn of the ecu the only way was to understand the language binary and hex..
    Paradoxically, if I knew how to read and understand the ecu in the hex... I could learn from them this kind of information...that is, if 8bit or 16 32 etc.. ?
    But this information in hexadecimal where can I find it?
    In a sense, this world is so complex and strange that it goes on only word-of-mouth breaking the boxes (as in my case nelforum ) or in a manual, I indicated where to find it?

    What I'm realizing is ... that unfortunately, it is difficult to "grow" by just studying ... you should always ask the help of you more experienced... there is no material where starting from 0, and to understand something (and I'm the kind of person that takes buy 10 books, and if you studied them all to understand )

    Last thing... a control unit, for example, that has as a display 16bit...will remain' for all its maps to 16 bit... or is it possible to find parts that appear better in 8-bits, other 32...and other 16bit?

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    You do it simple..
    What is a byte?

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