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    THE AVERAGE USER
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    The vegetable oil instead of diesel - sure go for it!

    From the interest shown servant a preview of all of my knowledge on the issue of alternative fuels. Given the price by theft that we are currently at the gas pumps, and very welcome any kind of alternative.

    The information will be in parts, because the material and truly vast. Concludero with a tutorial clear and condensed.

    To forward the theme I on the plate a historical fact interesting, that has given me the incentive prior to start this adventure:
    Rudolf Diesel, the pope of our preferred motor, knew something that we didn't know. Some people have access to information that are igniote to the general public. And the sense of responsibility to create solutions in advance by the problems that will be created in the future.

    He knew that come the day in which the price of the mineral oil suprerera any reasonable threshold and will be difficult to afford it. Then he invented an engine that goes on peanut oil! Right. The diesel engine was primatamente intezionato to operate on vegetable oil. Just after they invented the diesel oil as fuel, which was probably a waste in the process of refining.

    Of course , when he exhibited his first prototype was mocked, much derided. Perhaps as myself when I was a novice with the fry street.

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    I would say that secrets there are, are the prejudices of being able to break up and the fear of being caught for "evasion of excise duties on fuels, " that hamper the gesture of throwing in the tank milk oil ( not necessarily peanuts )
    Would you like an example ? all engines unijet fiat and Peugeot, as well as? all the tdi the vw group, with fixed geometry turbocharger digest the oil ( including waste provided that it is at least filtered ) without giving any problem if not cold, with temperatures below 10?C approximately.
    From 1999 to 2001, I had a marea jtd which I drove 183mila km oil absolute ( often at once ) and scrapped for the incident, a colleague with Ibiza tdi 90cv did 252mila km and still travels..
    only thing the smell of fried exhaust that enters your brain.
    The engines of the latest generation can not afford it because of the new injectors at risk and clogging of the fap/dpf that you ostruirebbero. Also the turbine variable geometry give problems in a few thousand km by sticking to the palette for fouling, oily and sooty.
    No problem with all the diesel chamber but are now extinct..

    sorry with the tide I made 183 km in total but oil absolute little + of 60 thousand.

    I look forward to more info ( if you have ) on any proceedings abbreviated and less time consuming to separate the glycerin from the oil to create biodiesel as those found in the network for anything affordable as costs and time.

    hello
    Last edited by msport (exil77grande); 23-07-2013 at 21:32

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    I had a customer that put the oil corza in the freelander...40000km and then pump + injectors not ? was a good deal...

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    I knew that you were alive other fryers engines Thanks for the sharing of experiences.

    My adventure started with a golf diesel 87, able to eat everything. It was my company for 3 years with which I have fate 70,000 km oil. The principle was receiving oil from an elementary school, and used directly in the tank, filtering it through by sheer woman. After a while I got bored of it to change the fuel filter every week.
    After a lot of research and strokes of genius, I built a real rafineria in campania between the pigs and the chickens. An ideal place for a job so dirty. Believe me, in the process spilling oil all over the place.

    To achieve an excellent quality of oil you have to consider the following factors:

    - Content of various crap : filter through filter drainage construction. And convenient, and is found in every shop of building materials.
    content - aqua : keep the oil above 100 degrees for 10 minutes to evaporate the water from the
    - micro filter surface: to filter the oil through the Filter for aqua 5 microni

    The result should be a product that is pure and ready to use.

    Details follow.

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    but I am in my 1.3 multijet use for about 3 years various types of seed oil diluted with fuel oil (40% oil 60%oil) with a level of care at intervals of approximately 3 weeks, gasoline
    (about 2 liters in the mixture mentioned above)? a knock-out.
    Then, if we want to make the discourse of consumption... well, saving about 10-15 € per week with an average of 70km per day.
    not bad!!!

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    with 40-60 still have not crossed the threshold limit for the clamping of the injectors, and even why? implement cycles of "dry" with the gasoline.
    if you do it on an engine in which the turbine is a variable geometry you would see immediately the blades locked in the span of a few thousand km.
    do not exceed 40-60 on the multijet otherwise it will be pain.
    on the unijet as said before, no problem even with 100% oil except for cold starts in the winter.

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    This ? my experience: seat ibiza year 2000 1.9 tdi 90 hp rotary vane pump bosch. I went to cooking oil exhausted, filtering it through mainly with a canvas of jeans. I had installed a heater on the flow of diesel, which is heated by the spark igniter dedicated, cold. Hot, he thought about the radiator coolant that passed through this "block" of aluminum, where he was also the fuel.
    Scrapped, as danny677, due to an accident, due to an accident. The second I was better with the oil with the diesel. Additivavo with a small percentage of acetone, and would, occasionally, a cleaner injectors in the fuel tank, to be quiet.
    However, having a free waste oil, ? still convenient to produce biodiesel for the car of new generation. The only problem ? to know if the tires used in the power system to withstand aggressivit? biodiesel, otherwise it should be changed with the spare parts in a material that ?, the cio? the viton.

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    but why? should hang the vanes of the variable geometry? but closing the egr valve does not solve the problem of exhaust gas recirculation? I have read that a machine that is 100% oil pollutes the 98% less than a normal diesel.
    the problem for cold-weather starting, just a filter with pre-heating according to me.
    anyway, on an engine of the new generation I don't I would never ever cooking oil.
    only problem is that putting oil you do not pay the excise duty.

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    ...let lose, sooner or later, the smell of French fries salt from the portfolio....15 years ago you could do it now, no more?...

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    Citazione Originally Written by leandro89 Visualizza Messaggio
    but why? should hang the vanes of the variable geometry? but closing the egr valve does not solve the problem of exhaust gas recirculation? I have read that a machine that is 100% oil pollutes the 98% less than a normal diesel.
    the problem for cold-weather starting, just a filter with pre-heating according to me.
    anyway, on an engine of the new generation I don't I would never ever cooking oil.
    only problem is that putting oil you do not pay the excise duty.
    the cooking oil contains lots of glycerin, which, after combustion is deposited together with the soot, creating a sort of tar rubbery blocks the movement of the vanes. If the oil to be refined and separated from the glycerin, it would be ideal to burn in any diesel engine and, for this, as it is called biodiesel.

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