first experience with the map on the grande punto 75hp

[giuseppe89]

Hi all, struggling with a car of a friend of mine which goes more or less like an electric scooter...I'm talking about a grande punto 1.3 mjt 75 hp.The car is definitely slow in increasing rpm,has a hole under 2500 rpm and then push a little. I tried to make him a map, and I have to say that on these marelli still do not understand much,I read so many post and there are a lot of conflicting information. I'm starting to understand "winols" but they are still far away from seeing the light... my problem is that after the mod the car has it improved the performance but not as I expected, I think I've missed a limiter or as a few increments (even if in one thread a user claimed to have had with these increases, good results) I know that a map made in this way is bad but if someone can give it a look, I would be happy to accept the criticism. I am helping a bit with the damos for the conversion factors even if you still do not understand much on how to use winols.I am attaching the file ori and mod thanks6F3PIHW04P3641PI90backupgrandep75cv_Flashmod.rar

[cinqueturbo]

As you already know the car has to go, right from gold for you have a good result..and then it checks the parameters MAF,MAP etc

the pedal you have also touched on the negative you could fix it,

You left ori these maps: 089CEA,091548,09157,091610,09308 TO

[giuseppe89]

Thanks a lot cinqueturbo you're always available,however, the drive gold is ok, but being heavy is really slow in making the rounds...then have the usual vacuum supply under 2500 rPm. Tonight I will give a look to the maps that I have listed

[giuseppe89]

Hello cinqueturbo I was watching on winols maps that I have kindly given.... some seem to surge some function temperature function of rpm. The first map that I have indicated I could not understand d what it is the damos speaks of "the timing of main injection" but I don't understand what I have in the z-axis and what it refers to... the damos on these maps, indicated by information,I have compared this file with others and some of those that seem limiters are set to 12800 and then disabled right? Could you give me some tips on these maps?

[cinqueturbo]

Joseph mo I go to sleep tomorrow we have to work with.. have you ever compared a file of the 105hp?

[giuseppe89]

I tried time ago with a present in the bank data, but did not give me any driver or it was corrupted I don't remember...I look for someone else. But for the question winols is normal, that does not give me the information for those maps? I looked also on other files, and the damos is the one posted by munro on the forum.

[cinqueturbo]

089CEA Injection Phase (8bit motorola)
Cattura.jpg
091548 Limiter torque based on the engine rpm
09157A Limiter torque on the basis of exchange "Gear"
091610 Limiter torque on the basis of temperature
copy from 105 hp.

the limit on the ecu for the lim. pair and 12800 useless to go over..
if you have other doubts you can ask

[giuseppe89]

thanks cinqueturbo I commit myself to work immediately, unfortunately I have little time lately but I am committed!

[Errecinque]

089CEA Injection Phase (8bit motorola)
Cattura.jpg
091548 Limiter torque based on the engine rpm
09157A Limiter torque on the basis of exchange "Gear"
091610 Limiter torque on the basis of temperature
copy from 105 hp.

the limit on the ecu for the lim. pair and 12800 useless to go over..
if you have other doubts you can ask

Hello 5T, but this infamous limit of 12800. Can you explain to me what is related? That is, a limit hidden then it is not editable, or is written in any bit, can you stand up? Not that I need it but I wonder if those who make some super engine modified enough for this request pair. Maybe raise marelli and fit the ecu customizable?

[giuseppe89]

Cinqueturbo I advice you to copy only those limiters you mentioned, or to adapt also to the others that I have found?I think it is more accurate to adjust them all right? another question,for the injection phase to adapt also as the 105?I know that mounts the injectors different from the 90's or am I wrong?or should moddare the current map? give it a couple of degrees for the maximum iq from 3000 rpm?and I'm sorry if I break even with the questions but I have one that I kind last night:I read and reread the thread "multijet impariamola" and I was left with an idea a little confused on the to read the various maps,what I was wondering is:having the damos of a particular file 6f3 looking at the maps in winols are displayed in the correct direction or there is always more to read at the contrary?can I trust the information of the damos or not?