Guys I wanted to ask you this survey which, according to you ? the car to entertain more u guy??
Alfa 147 jtdM
Bmw 120D
wolswagen Golf 1.9 or 2.0
Audi 3
Seat Ibiza Fr or Cupra
Seat Leon
Fiat Stilo
Fiat punto 1.9 jtd
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Guys I wanted to ask you this survey which, according to you ? the car to entertain more u guy??
Alfa 147 jtdM
Bmw 120D
wolswagen Golf 1.9 or 2.0
Audi 3
Seat Ibiza Fr or Cupra
Seat Leon
Fiat Stilo
Fiat punto 1.9 jtd
In parit? of performance, the bmw with rear wheel drive ? it is probably the most? funny...
The cars that you listed are the usual that captain of every second car that passes , seat. Take the daihatsu charade GTti (993cc turbo) or the toyota starlet, which are the machines of hilarious ( what you need) :)
But if you keep your criteria, I think that the best is cupra/bmw
hello
Golf VI 2.0 TDI 170cv and you have fun for sure... having the money to buy it!!! =)
mmm,I would say 120d for performance and the fact that ? back but ? also a car that does have a lot of fun mechanics hahah
among the ones you said anyway, or the 147 and it is aesthetically very valid, but ? very secure seal and the engine ? reliable and able to get a lot of squeezing it
the ibiza I don't like aesthetically...
the stylus and the point does not appeal to me aesthetically...
the audi a3 ? quite expensive..
the golf ? trivial...
the seat leon first series version of the sport-cupra instead ? very interesting, especially if it is integral and has the same interior of the audi a3 before the series..
I'd take an aventador underground racing... 1200hp and 0-60mph in 2.2 sec.. I think that we could have fun..;)
If you have the liver to take down? to tablet the throttle you will see it exceed 400km/h.....
Think about that adrenaline rush......:cool:
If you want to enjoy a little I'd go for a cupra 163cv ibiza.. with a few targeted interventions will have a plus of the power of the whole than comparable machines between the + performance of similar cubic capacity currently on the market....
Senn? I would opt x a 120d ? always nice to see the machine, just that nn has the normal headlights and the rims on the base..... with a wheel 17, trim and xenon the car in a few years the avr? its charm..... and then ? always bmw....
X the Italian would opt x 147 or 159 sportwagon.. great beautiful car.. also the giulietta 1600 jtm 120 hp model + is equipped with the basic dates of the tips that nn f? regret 1 German quality? higher on the card....
those that you listed are the cars that people buy now for fashion, I am referring to bmw audi... not to mention juliet (I personally hate it)... see some guys that have the money, and I even know what year your hands... but if you really want to have fun get a nice car turbo petrol... kind of the point of the gt were you... but then you see dolve leave the bmw and the audi...
punto gt?Quote:
Originally Written by r6raven2010
mah and this is a car for young people ? well then get the subscription from the gas station,however, I always return to my speech if you take a diesel serious with some targeted intervention are the numbers.
he spoke of the " car to have fun, not cheap car... I have the seat leon 2.0 tdi pd 140... and for the moments of "the fusion pure" esco t gt...Quote:
Originally Written by msport (exil77grande)
I have an A3, which is very safe and always talking about mine, I can do curves in oversteer in safety even why?, speaking of mia, the esp takes with a moment of delay. As the engine, well, those 140cv you feel a lot and says Msport with some tweaking you should be even better, but if you have the cash c'? always 170CV and maybe with the convertible with panoramic roof *_*
Because the 120 are happy that the mechanics? I tt this defect is not there, I see them...which turbo petrol only td :)
diesel or petrol, money permitting are 2 types of style different to drive.
Do you like pull downs, autonomy, and a plus of torque... you choose the diesel
You like the extension of the engine.. hear him spin the top, no matter the autonomy :confused:..... choose gasoline... better if turbo....
I personally have been taken by diesel engines of the vw group, not why? I think the best... (has flaws like all of the engines in circulation, I have a 130hp golf mk4), why? my driving style is the bride fully with the characteristics of the engine....
I am always under 2000 rpm and an average 1500gg, I go down to 1000 rpm in 6? and I do go... the turbo comes almost instantly, pulls well to high.. no ? of course, as a bmw... I rarely go there, I have a range of over 1200km....x in between which stops the distributor and the delivery of the engine I'm happy, I'm not saying that I consider it a tractor :)... the pd ? a tractor labelled x go over 40km/h.... was + silent one with the rotary pump if the nn was x the 6? gear.... Son 15 years old that I drive these tractors..... Sorry x l' O. T.
it is, in fact, I love the diesel x the torque output from now on!
[QUOTE=sportknight;41195]mmm,I would say 120d for performance and the fact that ? back but ? also a car that does have a lot of fun mechanics hahahQUOTE]
I wanted to know why the 120d are diverrtire mechanics...you had 1 ke has given you problems??
I don't have a bike but some time ago, I tried an Mv Agusta Brutale and would not do anything bad...even the sound was good! cmq ? true...the Ducati sounds good!!!
surely the 120d even better if it's 123d.
But one thing beautiful ducati ? also the dry clutch that has that typical sound from ducati. :DQuote:
Originally Written by Tinturia
a beautiful juliet, how do you see it?
A friend of mine has the 170cv but not ? so + strong with my A3 140cv, but ...Quote:
Originally Written by giarras
While aesthetically ? a lady car, and I like it :)
the giulietta and a show, but it seems like a car, the most seria.non for 18-20 years... the 123 much of the 120 speaking of 163 ke to me and very best d aesthetic ke performance cost around 6000-7000
10,000/to 12,000 euros a 123d you take...... nn and many miles.... 100,000 km .. I have many.. perhaps you ? just melted....:cool:Quote:
Originally Written by angelolsp
The one s? that you have fun.... x perhaps the first few days the ecu, you can leave ori... :confused:
In fact, with the same price, take 2 120 xD ke, however, are no less
a couple of weeks ago a friend of mine with a 120 map and catalyst is raised to the km and arrived almost a machine behind the 123 map and defappato...already you part with 40 hp difference..
The first 204cv you might get to share 265cv..... hard to keep up with a 120d which originally would have 163cv.. depends on who he puts his hands to the point that squeezes them the tsi engines....Quote:
Originally Written by angelolsp
Sin not to have one.. I'm happy with my tractor.. the golf 130 mules...;)
indeed...it depends on who he puts his hands :D also your "tractor" and a show is all about the soundo when you put a sports exhaust...and unlike golf 5 flywheel...golf 4 ecu and exhaust you know how much the machine gave to a golf 5 map and turbine...made by the same mechanic
Instead, I find it very nice hyundai coup?, as among other things, my dream would have been the FORD MUNSTANG, I have seen 2 for sale in CT to 10Keuro, but it would have been a whim cannot be maintained....
let it be sti pieces of iron,I would call them even drive,personal opinion!:)Quote:
Originally Written by Fedex
Why?? I have driven one, and I honestly was not bad.Quote:
Originally Written by guidotacco
speaking of the 120d concorde that the 163cv you can pump a lot better and responds better to the changes,for the 120d arrived near the 123d speaks of the 163cv right?
surely you and I will tell you as well because,in practice many bmw edc17 (not all) and let's talk about the 143cv-177cv and 204cv have a problem and that means that as soon as the maps and exceed a certain threshold, and we talk about a few hp of the type on some 10cv on the other, even up to 20cv, the machine goes into protection and then you must try the limte before the recovery if you do not know the solution that is currently for what I know, both in italy and abroad on the basis of all my knowledge no one and able to resolve what the staff can do, and then as I see the 123d is very soft unlike the 163cv which it is pumped.
that guy I was talking to his 123 that only a prerparatore and managed to get it going without any additional increase prssione of the turbo ke and the original 2 bar..but I don't know if this is true about the pressure... and still c and another 120d 177 hp that I've heard of a problem of all these new bmw engine, but you know what it is?
ke blend!!! and the chain is noisy due to lubrication failure!!!!
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Originally Written by angelolsp
we are able to solve the problem, but only in the workshop.
And yet I turn a lot of it seems to ke them have all the 163 hp
Still a engine "modern" that has no problems I do not know. Thinks I have an A3 with the engine BKD.Quote:
Originally Written by angelolsp
To add, I recently saw a 320 new and gorgeous completely burnt out... (they say it's been a short circuit),Quote:
Originally Written by Fedex
The Ferrari that you set fire to spontaneous combustion.
While the tide 1.6 petrol 100cv of my father with almost 200.000km has all of the problems except the engine.
And normal every car has problems, my dad has a primera with 300,000 km and has only seen the countryside and olive oil very cheap still walking? :)
[QUOTE=Fedex;41477]Why?? I have driven one, and I honestly was not bad.[/QUOTE
hyundai or ford?
[QUOTE=guidotacco;41605]hyundai... ford MUSTANG magariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii *_*Quote:
Originally Written by Fedex
[QUOTE=Fedex;41611]I've tried it in canada,you will not lose nothing,always personal opinion!Quote:
Originally Written by guidotacco
a friend of mine american has a 135 with the exhaust and a half the map test that!!!xD
When and where??? XDQuote:
Originally Written by angelolsp