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you should give some data in pi? inherent in the ecu,the number of HW and SW, the size of the file, and the model of the ecu,with what you've written hardly makes you can? give a help
2 things that apply to everyone, not just you.
1 - If you want an opinion on a map always include ori and mod with the maximum number of data can
2 - do not believe everything in there? they say in the forums, especially in some Italian forums, where you pretend all teachers cercandoti to sell their map, and then actually? they cannot make anything
Quoto the magi...if we don't have ori and mod your machine, we cannot evaluate the quality? the work done on it.Quote:
Originally Written by magi1984
Room for improvement there is for that engine but if I understand correctly, need more? starting at low revs seen that ? almost like the original...too much inspiration available at low rpm stresses only the organs of the clutch, if they are original..
Thank you very much for the responses... here are the two files..the original and moddati...we would like a change that best in the bottom of the delivery...? really died down, I have to say that this map does not ? all my bag of flour I helped a friend get it and thank him very much for his help, I would like to? begin to understand how to do I..as for the maps out of the driver ecm I downloaded a p? maps from the web on this machine and I've noticed people who have really touched the curves out of the driver, I am the pi? what else is curious to be able to understand that the type of curves can be off driver to improve the delivery and as they say that there is a little smoke....Thanks a lot
hello,so as you have already pointed out when you ask for information or advice if you do not email the file ori and mod appointed as it should and with the most info possible becomes the most boring help and many do not for this,for the rest I can only say that it is modified in a manner too basic and should not be absolutely so it is not correct and could make even a child of increase in % of tot fixed on a map, and in fact you do not have the desired results,the injection phase goes well,the limiters torque to be redone,and died at the bottom because it has been modified only slightly in the high and in the wrong way,the pressure the turbo when I could go,enrichment, acceleration is not and it is different from the similar,the timing of an overboost forgive her ori.
Hello msport..thanks a lot for the reply..then I apologize for not having brought immediately to the original files and not modified sar? pi? this this error on my part, that the map was made in a way that p? elementary I don't know...I'm not a guru in the field so I don't allow myself to criticize. Questions:
2)same question how to move an enrichment in acceleration to be correct? I read that changing it before the 50% and 1500 rpm, the car tends to be accelerated...
3)why? the an overboost do not change ever? I often read that it is recommended to remain original...
Thanks so much for the explanations :)
the torque limiters vanna made the steps I've never read around the forum to be honest and so I don't know where you might have read this thing,then if you know how to move the enrichment in acceleration, the car remains accelerated ,and the third time bost can give problems to the turbo and cause breakage if moved in the wrong way,and the people with those maps know what to do and how to move them for me are very few,and even among the gurus,many do not even know comemmuoverle but make the mod standard of the maps or avoid just move them and they are the the majority of people..........this on time of boost ? my personal opinion
well, of course everyone has his own opinion ? obvious...I've read I don't remember where, and they said that the torque limiters made in step went on ir? that good....this is the reason of us?....anyway, I compared the torque limiters, and they seem to be made equal in the same way...maybe I don't know see well, or ecm bust me I don't know....I would like to understand how to change the torque limiters and the enrichment in acceleration...I want to learn and do not break always have the boxes to someone...thanks to all
you want a board so as to understand something more?,make changes and try them out and see how it changes the car so that you can understand how you're acting, you? the best thing trusted
Uhmm make changes ? try some of this ? a good thing...but I for example I see that the torque limiter ? wrong and ? do it again ok here we go, to? I would like to understand why? ? wrong? what is wrong? in that way you should not change it to be correct? if I modificassi and caricherei andrei, however, blindly in every case a difference of maybe a small point of where to start to UNDERSTAND how to move in to change the limiter, and the pedal...that's all...
guys the forum is full of info if you always do the same questions and it gets boring (for example, see what he recommended magi1984 in the last post of this page, and you have a base you have to read everything, not only to open discussions that are always the same
http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...ravo-jtd/page3
I apologize...
Hello Metropolis, I am a beginner almost as te, the torque limiter if it is too high at low rpm can cause damage to the flywheel, the clutch and the gearbox.Quote:
Originally Written by Metropolis
I saw that you have increased the turbo from 1750 rpm, the torque limiter inizialo to increase even by those rides, you might start with 20% and gradually increase to increase speed( the rpm the higher the flywheel and clutch are compromised less)
The turbo, can you give 200 points, but you have to also increase the limiter that ? 2400 and you require 2491
Hello Munro, but there are you to correct me, you can start with a 10% up to a maximum of 25%?
for the turbo, instead, I advise you to stay around the 150 points that are more? that suffucienti and reach of the beautiful performance, touching on all the rest...
on the turbo so much depends on the characteristics of the turbo,often you can? to go beyond,but dipeende also by the performance that you want to achieve
but I will have you know what? I'm afraid to exaggerate to give, for example, 200 points on the turbo...for example, I don't know 200 points to those who mbar equivalent in the pi?...cap?? for example, if I give 200 points to the turbo, not the whole arc, but maybe by 2000 rpm, and then how much should I be pressure? the torque limiter if, for example, change them, starting from 15% at 1500 rpm and arrival at a maximum of 25% in order to climb? then one thing I would like to understand...if I increase the torque limiters starting from a 15% to a maximum full load of 25% after I have to also adjust the split right?
200 points on the turbo, the equivalent of 0.2 bar and then 100 points = 0.1 bar and usually on standard maps increases from 0.1 bar to 0.18 bar about with regard to the torque limiter 15% to 30% increase smeared with a automatic transmission you can give without problems and do not skip own nothing.
quoto in full what it says mpsport,even if only for automatic transmission you should pay a lot but a lot of attention because? there are very delicate that immediately jump if you overdo it
perfect I see that my tips are used to something.
Technical question on the turbo...but if I for example select (tabular) from about 20 to load at 1750 rpm and do 200 points on all of the arc? you see it wrong as what?
The axes from the map turbo are : rpm, and the quantity of fuel;
So according to me if you give too much turbo with the request of a little diesel, you will have a high ratio AFR.
always remember to select the actual values otherwise it makes a nice bang;)
I happened to have cars whose owners asked me, "effect whip" already available from 1400 rpm and I told him the serious risks that ran on the flywheel, clutch and turbo in a very short time if it is poorly exploited...in the end I did as requested, we are happy their happy all!Quote:
Originally Written by munro
I also try to make them think, even why? then break it all and break thee (an old film), someone asked me for the miracle I almost put hands on him (joking of course) how high was his ****llo of ignorance...they want the rubber flap, not the interests of "eat" meters of asphalt!Quote:
Originally Written by munro
Absolutely...already ori I have a friend who sviolinava the 210km/h and broken.
I apologize to 220 km/h stops....I was wrong to write.... here you me confirmed that it has no speed limiter? perhaps to go more? at the top of should not play with the advance or am I wrong?
Perhaps the only limit ? in the laps of the map of the torque limiter or maybe the injection time and the required iq to tours that take you to 220 km/h.
if it was already? talked in the past if I'm not mistaken...some cars have the limiter speed? in the eeprom and not in flash
and son in just a few those who know how to find it and edit it
Hello then in the map attached to the post 33 ? the whole redo...can't? be that you did, especially with that limiter to the stars.
The turbo could almost go but I personally do not like to ask too much to both him and to the pedal.
Only thing ok ? the egr. Work above and runs in the forum, parses the maps to be posted and commented on so? to begin to learn something.
Then, first of all thanks for the reply, I point out that that map as I wrote at the beginning ? all my bag of flour, the limiters are wrong and gi? I knew, in fact, I even wrote that I still have to get them, why? the turbo should not be? I gave a maximum of 200 points in a gradual way...what is wrong with your turbo? 0.2 bar in the pi? are cos? many? C'? who first told me that they were alright...
I said that is fine but I do not like it as a method of growth, each has its. This does not mean that is not good, certainly not as a standard map you can keep on 150 points and you can have beautiful results.Quote:
Originally Written by Metropolis
ok ok okay...I would like to try to give 200, so as to provide 0.2 bar in pi? what are you saying? for a turbine, the original should be ok, and then I'd do the torque limiters as you must...but one thing I don't understand for now...the torque limiter I have to get them to the second limiters of the fumes, right? or better called injection choked right?