hello guys I'm making this work I ask you if I'm heading in the right direction I attach a file ori already cut and mod file with egr off and dpf off for the moment if ok, proceed with the mapping!!!!
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hello guys I'm making this work I ask you if I'm heading in the right direction I attach a file ori already cut and mod file with egr off and dpf off for the moment if ok, proceed with the mapping!!!!
Seems Ok.. Proceed with the reset with the diagnosis and then go with the writing..
hello cinqueturbo, what should I clear before writing?
however before writing, I also have to map the network drive and I would like to be a moment later on if I'm doing it in the right way if this mod is ok, proceed with the mapping and the place to check, thanks
It means, I think of clear errors in diagnosis, and do (l) procedures to reset parameters on the dpf. (Replacement clogging, etc.)Quote:
Originally Written by project
Exactly what I meant..
ok, perfect-thanks!
I gave a look at the map with with titanium, I could confirm if these addresses are correct?
08DE86 press turbo
08DBE6 map is not identified
081714 lim. IQ
0817EC maf
0819C0-081D60-0833DE I seem to be limiters but not well-understood what
then from the driver to the ecm l the injection split it seems to me, an injection time
l injection split(map1), it seems to me the limitatorre fumes
then, the torque limiter#3 are the classic torque limiter, while the other two I have not understood
what am I doing wrong?
can someone help me with these addresses?
I do not have the damos for this map, and winols does not give me even the possible maps I need some help!
Get these Files to begin to understand something more..Quote:
Originally Written by project
MJD6F3HW04P
Num SW: 3548B596
Dis FIAT: 51862580
MJD6F3HW03P
Num SW: 3144P754
Dis FIAT: 51796241
In your file maps essential are these...
0805EA
084B46
085F2C
089744
08AC68
08E662
08E682
08F217
08F480
08F4D7
09040C
09053C
090672
090C36
090D76
091066
09109C
0910DE
091130
0912B6
0912E6
091B3A
091CB6
091CFE
0920D1
092212
092975
092B08
092C23
092D63
someone has time the from one eye and the by the wording..
ok the files I have found are a G Point and a 500 all and two 75hp giuto?
because you tell me to look at these two files? I do not have the damos then I'd still be at zero or am I wrong?
however, as soon as I can them I get the two of them.
But the damos for this ecu, is there?
anyway thanks a lot for your help!
if someone in the meantime, I can give you the names of the map I would be very grateful!
Good evening guys, then I studied a map, and the maps indicated by cinqueturbo, those map I have been of much help because I do not have the damos, and then I should spulciarle as for the map of Y then are passed directly to that.
I found some address if someone could give me a hand kindly and give it a look thanks.
-0805FC map unknown
-085F3C unknown
-085FCC it seems to me the map lim rail
-08608C map rail
-089766 unknown
-08ABFC Limiter fumes
-08E664 Lim. couple #3 (nomenclature ECM) I have not understood what the map is
-08E684 Lim. couple #3 (nomenclature ECM) I have not understood what the map is
-08F218 unknown
-08F4D8 unknown
-09040E lim. torque (nomenclature ECM)I have not understood what the map is
-09053E lim. torque (nomenclature ECM)I have not understood what the map is
-090672 lim. pair 2# (nomenclature ECM) not l I understood that either
-090c36 unknown
-090d76 unknown
-091130 it seems to me another limiter rail
-091b3a unknown
-092976 unknown
-092c24 unknown
-092d64 unknown
thanks a lot!
If I know cinqueturbo....if you upload those files with ecm should be up to your driver well is more comprehensive. You will find the same maps on your file and you have to spareQuote:
Originally Written by project
You errecinque l I just did and I wanted to write it!
I have found similar curves so that I can give me an idea of what traits the addresses, however, do not have the same right?
The addresses of the beginning and the end of the map will be different, but you have to look at the maps that interest you in 2d, and look for the same in your file.Quote:
Originally Written by project
thanks a lot errecinque, hear I I need some straight to map this car not having the damos ste marelli are a cross! I'm slowly reading the guide marelli ec here in the forum pero until now it is only spoken of 70, on winols to work on that I should know at least the factors and the offsets on the ecm outputs of the maps as they are? after a few straight place the file so if you want I will take a look thanks!
I'm sorry not to be able to download....but if you need something ask I can help you especially for the conversion factors...
If you are studying on the discussion marelli multijet that there is on the forum there you will find almost everything. The conversion factors certainly are there and are equal to your.Quote:
Originally Written by project
Azzz you have been of great help?Quote:
Originally Written by project
the map Rail Pressure know? almost all of the limiters,turbo pressure,enrichment, acceleration,etc., etc.
maybe when I started them I found on the fly so..
Ducati83 thank you I'd be of great help.
Errecinque is in the discussion, however, there is much talk of 70cv, and I do not know if the factors are the same
Cinqueturbo you're right, forgive me it was my mistake I did not immediately see them with the ECM we have arrived after sorry :P
in fact I found a lot of maps now, I will try to understand what it is all about, and them I am going to write here, so let's see if I can get there.
however, I also compared with the map of the 90hp, which is practically the same also in the addresses, the only differences that I found are next to the maps with some increments, and even at all but I noticed that change the last bit of some axis, which in the 75 is piqued at higher values, instead, in the 90 the value continues on the scale I gave as the impression that in the 70cv placed so that the switchboard has a BP less on that map that is made so so that the ecu does not take into account is it right?
Take a break.....I know that you "slightly" confused. if you re-read what you have written don't you understand, even you !!!!Quote:
Originally Written by project
be it in fact I didn't understood not even me!
however, I wanted to say that I have compared my file which is a 75hp with the file of the 90hp, and I noticed that the mapping doesn't change that much, and honestly I thought I'd try to copy the increments of the 90hp.
and I also saw that the curves of the axes of some of the maps change with the last value and I thought that it was not to be read to the ecu of the 75 that the last value!
example: the axis turns to a map of 90 up to 5200 while on the 75 the same axis of the same map up to 4800 and then where about 90 ce the 5200 here is a peak type 12000( random numbers)
as soon as I can to limit I put a screen if I don't you understand
Then these are the maps with their axes and conversion factors that I have found some are not able to identify and map the fumes are not safe to be this:
08ABFA injection time 24x16 Axis X:Bar Y:IQ Z:us
09040E map pedal 8x16 X-Axis:RPM, Y:%pedal Z:Torque Nm
09053E map pedal 8x16 X-Axis:RPM, Y:%pedal Z:Torque Nm
090672 Limiter torque at operating temp the water 10x16 X-Axis:RPM, Y:Temp°C Z:Nm
084B48 Lim. pair, 8x1 X-Axis:RPM Z:Nm a 16-bit
08e684 Lim. pair, 8x1 X-Axis:RPM Z:Nm a 16-bit
08E664 Lim. pair, 8x1 X-Axis:RPM Z:Nm a 16-bit
0910E0 Lim. Pair 12X1 Axes XRPM Z:Nm a 16-bit
0912B8 Lim. Pair 12X1 Axes XRPM Z:Nm a 16-bit
091CC2 Lim. pair ??????
08F218 Lim. press???? 16x16 X-Axis:RPM, Y:IQ Z:??? 8bit
08F4D8 ??????? 16x16 8bit
08999E lim press map 16x16 16bit ?????
091B3A ???? 16x16 X-Axis:rpm, Y:IQ Z:??? 8bit
092976 ????? 16x16 X-Axis:RPM, Y:IQ Z:??? 8bit
092C24 ???? 16x16 X-Axis:RPM, Y:IQ Z:??? 8bit
092D64 ??? 16x16 X-Axis:RPM, Y:IQ Z:??? 8bit
091CFE ??? 10x10 8bit
0920D2 lim press turbo 16x16 X-Axis:RPM, Y:IQ Z:??? 8bit
092212 lim press turbo 16x16 X-Axis:RPM, Y:IQ Z:??? 8bit
0805FC should be the limiter flue 8x16
0806FC connected to the limiter fumes I think 8x16
090c36____________T. Over Boost__________16x16
090D76____________T. Over Boost__________16x16
CONVERSION FACTORS
BAR: 2,000 Offsett in the map -100
QI: 0,002930 OR 0,002941
US: Without conversion
RPM: Without conversion
%PEDAL ACC: 0,004
Nm: 0.023438
TEMP. WATER: 0,5
As soon as I have some time to think it through up together (I have to learn that too). I appreciate your commitment to look for the info. Bravo.
I would copy only the map phase injection.. but the 105hp..Quote:
Originally Written by project
thanks errrcinque I love this world and I do truly with passion!
even if I personally have a lot of gaps still, for example, be able to understand what the subject of the maps, I find it still a bit difficult I have to understand the mechanism and the factors, if not was that I was able to look around I would have been seriously on the high seas as I do not know just how to find them! however, I'm glad to study with you!
cinqueturbo why not the whole map then? if we have the same injectors,pump and turbine, you might as well do the whole map easily and maybe it would be also a point of study for the increases
still watching the files of the 105 I went to the eye one can map exactly to 8E6D4 may be a lim press the rail, give us a look
I did some research I saw that between the 75 and the 90 change the pump and turbine on the other hand between the 75 and the 105 change the pump, injectors and turbo! then ovviamentr the injectors of the 105 have a higher flow rate then the injection timing can not be taken as a reference while those of the 90's, you just have to see if they are incremetati compared to the 75 tonight I'll do some checking!
someone has given a look at those addresses for the case?
how are the searches?
ducati is just a little above I wrote the map with their axes and factors that are able to find, now I am putting on to try to understand the map that I had not identified yet, and wait for someone to give me confirmation if I'm going the right way!
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08f218 map press rail with 8-bit motor to 7.51 and offsett -100
08d493 would seem to be a limiter, maybe the rail, but I don't understand, and it is 8bit
then 09106e may be 4 limitatiori one is sure the other I don't know
I miss the detailed soi I can't find it
Map advances found and should be the one to address 08999E.
The only thing that seems strange to me is that by controlling the time and advance from the calculations I show that the definition terminates on 30 degrees before TDC.
now, or am I doing something wrong or I these car run a lot early.
well now we also have the damos thanks to backgroopQuote:
Originally Written by project
now you only need to check if what I have done since time is right!
errecinque to me it will take a while before you understand everything if you have the time could you give a look if it is right what I said is also the fact that the number of degrees of pei!
I beat it with an espace and a range rover, and I ributto on marelli ....brings a moment of patienceQuote:
Originally Written by project
you are quiet! in the meantime, I try to find a table of flow rate of the injectors so maybe I'll pull out something more!
Hello Project, I also studied a little bit for these ecus also if lately I have not had much time... I gave a quick look to the ori of this Y, and I just wanted to indicate what are the maps good or bad, identify...
0805FC - IQ limit
0806FC - IQ limit
083228 - IQ limit
084B48 - Torque limit
084B98 - IQ limit
08999E - Rail Prex
08ABFA - Duration
08D850 - Lambda
08E664 - Torque limit
08E684 - Torque limit
08E6D4 - Lambda
08E914 - Lambda
08EB12 - Lambda?
08F218 - Rail Prex
08F4D8 - Rail Prex
09040E - Driver Wish
09053E - Driver Wish
090672 - Torque limit
091068 - Torque limit
09109A - Torque limit
0910E0 - Torque limit
091130 - Torque limit
0912B8 - Torque limit
091B3A - Turbo limit
091CFE - Turbo limit
0920D3 - an overboost
092213 - an overboost
092976 - Turbo limit
092C24 - an overboost
092D64 - an overboost
It may be that in a hurry I have skipped or confusing to some, so be sure with attention...
Anyway, at least you don't make changes "invasive", you don't need to go to edit very... motors are strong but with accessories designed evil... think that they feel very already the closure of the EGR...
Hello alxcrs, thank you very much as soon as I can do a look with the damos as soon as I can your pardon for a bit, still watching so I saw that you say that the map 8999E is a map prex rail it looked to me like a map SOI you can check it kindly?
Hello project, I'm sorry but lately I don't have much time... (right now I'm in lunch break)...
Anyway, actually "should" be a SOI (and not the press. rail) but the one that convinces me is that in the a-axis read 20478, which may be 60mm3, in another I read 3333 which could be RPM, but in the Z-axis (in map) I read values ranging from 2688 to 640... which means this engine would work with advances from 42 to 10 degrees... I seem to be so many...
Hopefully, in the opinion of some guru of this ecu!!!
Don't worry I understand you, in fact, is what I wrote a few posts ago by doing two calculations(the ones that I know and are not even sure are right) to me is very early, I now have a damos for this ecu soon as I get time I will try to study it and see what they pull out!
so guys I found something, I'm attaching the picture of the opened maps are the maps the lambda that should be let's say the limiter is smoke, there is a bit of conversion of these maps in other window smaller where ce the stoichiometric ratio, now given that these maps work on the lambda factor multiplying it by the stoichiometric ratio determined by the bit you have the afr, there is a base map and a limiter upper and a lower one.
it may be possible to as what?
in the calculator there is a test that I did on the map limiter, and exit 18, as it seems to me plausible.
now I understand and I can just do a test if no star-to-scale maps with the lambda factor if you just fix to the bit of the stoichiometric in order to have increases in IQ and, as a consequence would be also increased his limiters!