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limit iq
good evening to all! this is the map that I use every day,my "problem"and that I can not exceed 100mm3 of fuel injected
is there any problem in this map?I know that is not the top,indeed.......but this I could do.
it is possible to raise the iq?!?!
thanks in advance for the help!;)
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not to judge, but this map should be revised to...
for example..
072348 valve shut-off duty-cycle return it ori
072FBE conversion pair>iq you're stopped at 90mm3 and broken is not a real limiter, but if you change this you must change also its inverse, which is to 072E66...
0755FC map additive setpoint egr
no need to change it...
0758D0 default map egr rimmetila ori
it is not a limiter..
0777B2 and 077800 are the activation thresholds for
the closed loop management turbo as hi facts you
you're always with management turbo in closed loop..
guess a little? do it ori..
your maps in the pedal are more low as much as you want
inject don't you think that you should go over it with
the request??
your torque limiter and latch on to 100mm3
do you not believe that you should raise this too?
in addition, the output of your limitaore fumes and
mm3 also this will have to be reviewed...
078EFC is a limiter alzalo to how much you want to inject
also your limiters, gear for gear
they are fixed to 100mm3 begin to 079154...
there are other things that should not be in this map
but for now I stop here...
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first of all, I just wanted to thank murno for the interest!!then before continuing I have some questions to ask,just to understand and learn, always if you'd like!
can I?!?!
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we are here for this.....
next shoot!!
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ok thanks!
the address 072348 I thought it was the map mass air flow sensor.......
the limiters make for rotten already I had identified but I did not think that they were important, and (like a fool) I thought to myself, how does the ecu figure out the gear?!?! or I have to change all or none.........
then in closed loop, just the iq?
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o72348 is not the map mass air flow sensor trusted..and the duty cycle of the butterfly choke/spengnimento engine...
the limiters, gear for gear, why should not limit iq-if indeed you call it so?
the ecu to understand the gear has a map called the gear/rpm ratio as a function of the speed of the vehicle and of the engine rpm know which gear is engaged.
in the closed-loop vgt does not limit anything that does not allow an overboost turbo for example..
even if you believe that you, the pierburg has disconessa from the wastegate right?
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would you like to try to turn the launch control on this car?
if you want to prepare a file, is see if you can do that..
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of course I trust you!
I will immediately edit them!
the wg I connected directly.
the launch control?!?!on the point?!?!and, as you can do............ are all ears:)only I can't yet see
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already true then I say...
but I repeat, I'm not sure that it works and just to try ok?
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of course you can!!
ok then, I will!
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then in your file to 078518 start the maps
relations V/n that is,
the ones that you accenvo a few posts ago, that are maps
discovery reports gear depending on speed
the vehicle and rpm...you need to do is clear
the address that I said, including also 07851A
and 07851C after medical you have to copy the values reset to zero
to 07851e in then in practice you have to translate the entire
the map V/n of the three fields...once you have done this
go to 079154 that is your iq limiter for first gear
and the address said it has a population of 11 bits, and then reset the
the remaining maps which is a 15x1 in this way, in theory
you should turn the launch around 2800..
cioèda stationary crushing all the gas the engine
should stop at 2800 rpm...once the car
everything should be back to normal that is
you should be able to accelerate safely up to the bottom of the stairs
but only with the vehicle in motion remember...
for now try and see if it works then
we also combine the pop-corn at the launch..
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no, it's okay...you have cleared the first three addresses, but the value of those three, you have to put in three addresses the next and so on for all the values that you see...the torque limiter in a gear then you have erased everything I have said 11bit 11 shots of the cursor after the address that I gave you you need to reset...I can't put even one scren because you can't see...
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before proceeding with the l.c. I did some tests to see if I could increase the iq and it arrived at 104.00 mm3 only that I made of the gains in "scary" nothing to do........
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e-mail the map mod that you've done let's see what there is that does not go...
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This was the last one I put,I mod everything,are increases in high......
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then frank, or seen the map the fact that you're not able to inject as much as you want, which I understand are 130mm3 can depend on 3 factors...
1 your maf or mass air flow sensor is not reading enough air, the map and the fumes you are limited to that iq
2 your maps times are calculated up to 70mm3 you'll probably need to rescale the axes and ricalcolarti all of the maps in time for how much you want to inject..
3 what you see in the diagnosis may be a limitation of the ecu. namely, even if maybe you're injecting more of 104mm3 the ecu does not causes you to see why that is its limitation in the diagnosis...
my advice is starts to exclude everything one thing at a time and see what happens..
if you need a hand I'm here..
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oh I forgot..I wanted to ask you are you sure that your injectors are capable of giving you the iq?
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then diagnosis of the air amount, objective, and real, there is a clear difference,I'll try with another mass air flow sensor for the maf I don't know.......
the maps time not the I wanted to tap to not be a chimney,but I'll try to ricarcolarle.
for the injectors, the 2.4 jtd 136cv I think that they go well......
then I was not able to do the l.c. but the shot you had it already before but took off because I shot too soon,give it a look?!?!thanks
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I forgot to post it...................
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your shot is not good....the axis of the pair must be done differently on the last 2 breaks must be made very close to each other...example 4800>4810..
there is also another way to make it shoot covresti find the bit limiting rpm is set at 6000 rpm by ori should be lowered...
then make a log to see how many mg of air sucks in your maf or mass air flow sensor are the same thing if for example your maf reads 800mg/inj logical that he will move in the map smoke on the break that you need to give you a certain iq..
the other thing that you need to monitor and the temp on the diesel I think your limiter diesel fuel as a function of temp diesel fuel itself limits your iq at a given temperature diesel...
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place the results of the log
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I do not have the possibility to display a csv file, because on this pc I have installed excel...
post a screen if you can see what comes out..
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this, I think that goes well..........
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your maf reads only 552mg air if I've seen the good it is normal that you can not inject more of 104mm3 map of fumes you are limited to that iq just because of a reading so low the air...
and as if your car uses only half the fuel that you've given in the map smoke again because of that reading so low...
you said is a point, right?
the filter box and all the piping leading to the turbine on the car are designed for a 80-100 hp are now very undersized but still your maf the air you must read....must go to a 400-450mg to a minimum since you've abolished the egr to more than 1000-1100 mg at full speed..the log with that running you did? usually you put the 4 and pulls it up to maximum rpm...
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so it is a matter of "air"
the airbox and pipes have been removed,what should I do?!?
the log I did with the 3 at full speed
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you need a maf or mass air flow sensor that reads right...
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but are you sure that the logs are correct?
I don't think that with what little air you can inject all that fuel, it would seem that the air is divided by 2, otherwise avrsti a stoichiometric ratio of only 6.
Dovrsti smoking like a coal plant,
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You may have a hole in the pipe pre turbo that connects to the mass air flow sensor to the turbine is a fairly common thing, and would justify the lower reading of the mass air flow sensor and therefore the injections you mentioned
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I think that they are righteous,other parameters such as rail pressure is right!
I don't smoke like a chimney,in the norm,before the entry of the turbo and this is another aspect that does not convince me..................
I'll check if there are "holes"
I make a question,but can I delete the debimeto from the map?!can you do that?!?!
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If the hole is between the turbo and the mass air flow sensor precisely you do not smoke, just because the car can breathe, but the ecu believes to breathe less and thus also the maximum injected is lean... The smoke you do when the leak is after the turbo, and then as is often the case in ic the top or bottom.. you have Not thought of, if your moaning these findings do not retouch the limits of the map, smoke until the whole is at the limit of acceptable at least to check if in this range there is an abundant increase of thrust?? Because if so it means that you are far from the threshold beyond which there is more efficiency and in this case it would be caused by a possible flaw in the point which I intended, or to a low efficiency of the mass air flow sensor. The other test, you never tried to disconnect the connector of the mass air flow sensor , that the of the of the inevitable light (always if you do not exclude from the map) could make you go the machine more strong in the case is this less efficient?
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I tried to remove the mass air flow sensor and the machine should not be hard to climb,but it does not enter in recovery.....
if not too much to ask how you delete it?!?!
I have to run the maf as a mass air flow sensor?!?!
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The maf is the mass air flow sensor, did you mean the map?? However it does not need to change maps just to simulate the mass air flow sensor in the case of its elimination, to the maximum you could optimize them taking into account its elimination! To delete it from the map, in theory it would be enough to delete it from the table, dtc saw that the ecu in case of his absence it automatically makes the switch processing the signal of the other sensors to get an indication (even if a little more approx.) of the stoichiometric value of the rooms (especially through the signal from the lambda and MAP)
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to remove the mass air flow sensor or maf are the same thing, you must find the "buttons" in the ecu, then once that's done, you should convert the limiter fumes from maf based to map based where instead of the quantity of air goes to the turbo pressure...
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know what the management of a diesel in the map based makes smoking so the car in question to a non-optimal calibration, air and fuel in the combustion chamber, especially during the acceleration, the smoke becomes excessive for use purely road...
I say that and better to fit a maf to correctly read the incoming air to the engine...
you may also mount one of a 2.4 jtd can read more air, but then it should be linearized in the ecu simple thing to do, just copy the linearization of 2.4 in 1.9
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The map without the mass air flow sensor is the smoking for the simple fact that hanuna pressure measurement and not on the actual arian"swallowed up" from the engine. There can be an algorithm that is accurate for the correlation with the pressure / amount of air come into the rooms because the latter value is affected by other variables, at a given pressure.
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frank I have prepared a file with the maf off and the launch control..
the file, and still gold the way you do you like the most you like..
and in the limiter map based I left affixed to the iq lower than that to inject now to see if it works if it works you can increase the smoke map as much as you like...
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good evening!
I tried the map,it should be pretty good just not inject more than 75.50mm3 only that I forgot to raise the torque limiter,which is set to 65. can be?!?! the l.c I tried but does not work munro,stationary,in motion
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did you try with the mass air flow sensor unplugged?