council map 147 1.9 jtd 115

Hi to all.
I'm trying to edit the map of my alfa 147 to make it more powerful bass,so would like to have more shooting without compromising any mechanical part and electronics, and without excluding the egr.In short, a map and soft.For editing, I took inspiration from a bit of news aprese on the forums, and from a map downloaded from a 156 with the same engine as mine,which, compared to the original has been changed.
I look forward to advice
I'll post the map of the 156 from which I took inspiration, and I would be delighted if you give me an opinion on this.
and finally put my original and the modified.

the files posted are: 335_436.ori (the one downloaded from the 156 that seems to be modified)
alfa 147 gold medals (the original map of my 147)
147 s 156 mod (map 147 as amended)
thanks

I hope you are joking, have you copied the maps directly on your own , but do not match, you have the 2D views of your mod.?
then let it be that of the 156 that is changed but it's not okay, parts from your and change it, but first you have to understand what you do and how you do it.

I agree with ugoboss.............if you want we can make it

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Originally Written by ugoboss

I hope you are joking, have you copied the maps directly on your own , but do not match, you have the 2D views of your mod.?
then let it be that of the 156 that is changed but it's not okay, parts from your and change it, but first you have to understand what you do and how you do it.

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Good evening and thanks for the interest.
I would not have been wrong when I attached the file, because I did the test by copying the increments from one map to the other., but I had to post it because I'm going to be having a little sense. I rebuilt taking its cue always from that of the 156.After riverifico, in the case I would not go very well, I will start from scratch from my original.what do you advise me? Start with the map key to understand something?

is mr.shadow starts from scratch with YOUR file,start the map with the main and go ahead and if you don't ask.............. mail hw sw

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Originally Written by frenk85

is mr.shadow starts from scratch with YOUR file,start the map with the main and go ahead and if you don't ask.............. mail hw sw

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hi
the map data downloaded are:

hd:0281010332
sw:1037351962

I tried to change only maps main

-map the flue gas injection parzializato

-enrichment in acceleration

-limiter copy

place the mod file,let me know

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Originally Written by Mr. Shadow

hi
the map data downloaded are:

hd:0281010332
sw:1037351962

I tried to change only maps main

-map the flue gas injection parzializato

-enrichment in acceleration

-limiter copy

place the mod file,let me know

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I have compiled in a table; I'm trying to understand in 2d; when selecting, for example, injection,2d I open a chart ,the address that you read below should be inherent to the map choice? what I represent abscissa and ordinate? as I have to work to better optimize? it is not easy to understand ;
For example this is a map in tabular
what is the significance? as I have to change?
in tabellere increento as a function of load and engine rpm,but in 2d?

I didn't explain very well,I worked in a grid,but then by checking it in 2d is not at all clear

the one circled is not the torque limiter,the ldc is where is the arrow that the grid is right.parts by opening the 2d and the first map is the egr (the council) chiudila you have less clogging and more air "fresh" I close my "linearizzandola".

I did not understand what you want from the green circle?
in the 2D map you recognise it by the blue arrow...

tell you how I proceeded;
I opened the map ori,I modified it in the table and saved.
After I opened the map and went to open the map limiter ,displayed in a table.I then clicked on the 2d ,(as shown in the figure),so would like to know the address 07886C corresponds to the ldc? I see pretty much a peak,as I have to interpret?? in case you want to close the egr, tabellere, how do I proceed and in 2d?

yes the address is correct,it is not a peak but a curve where there are axes that correspond to the rpm and load.
for the egr I close my "linearizzandola"that is put the maximum limit imposed by the map (in your case it is 183)then open in 2d, and inspect everything and see if there are peaks or voids. then, there is the map, mass air flow sensor 072348 that if you want the map and soft are not an expert, don't touch it,and then all the others..................

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Originally Written by frenk85

yes the address is correct,it is not a peak but a curve where there are axes that correspond to the rpm and load.
for the egr I close my "linearizzandola"that is put the maximum limit imposed by the map (in your case it is 183)then open in 2d, and inspect everything and see if there are peaks or voids. then, there is the map, mass air flow sensor 072348 that if you want the map and soft are not an expert, don't touch it,and then all the others..................

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not is clear to me one thing,what should be the egr,on ecm2000 calls it "phase injection? or on ecm (with drivers of the same program) as he calls it???
Tomorrow I want to try to plug physically the egr with a plate,....it seems to make more...

I have learned that injection phase on the ecm corresponds to the egr valve, in my map I had as a max value 194,but on the 2d I had then a step to the end,I opted to bring all values to 183.
is correct?

I wanted to know why do those who opened the post and who has then replicated, we have had the delicacy to do that here we are in the rules section mahhh..........every way I move in the section beginners.

I noticed yesterday evening to find that the discussion that was not in the right section,but I have not given weight, the next time I will do this.

I didn't realize posting in the wrong place....

but now it's been moved discussion?
do not answer me no one?? help me!

what do you want to know?!?

I would like to know how is the map posted if the map soft can go , if I get some improvement in ****s performance, and if not, what and how should I further modify....
Thanks

the map posted I can't check,but regardless plain rip offs here and there,on maps for another "different",is not the best, and this already has been explained

The last map I modified it myself,I have been inspired but not copied.if I could check the map posted you would have known.if you can not answer just to do something,without giving any tip or shoot phrases.Try to be constructive.thanks

I don't see why you should be angry with so frenk85, not being able to see the files you said what you understood from my response, very likely, in any case, your edit is so not okay, you have changed only limiter, and foot pedal and evil, not just to hear the differences, it is useless to look at other files and make similar changes without knowing what you are doing.

p.s. I don't know if it's a constructive response, but I don't know what else to tell you.

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Originally Written by ugoboss

I don't see why you should be angry with so frenk85, not being able to see the files you said what you understood from my response, very likely, in any case, your edit is so not okay, you have changed only limiter, and foot pedal and evil, not just to hear the differences, it is useless to look at other files and make similar changes without knowing what you are doing.

p.s. I don't know if it's a constructive response, but I don't know what else to tell you.

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Good morning,sorry for the tone, are not pointed out, I was hoping to see suggestions...the changes in reality have made by taking information from the internet. I scopuazzato only the first that I put at the beginning of the split to The other as I said I have changed thanks to the information taken on ******.cmq are all ears on what to change and why

tips...............it does not seem that you have been given.....construction we are!! you?!? if you want a map there are no problems you do so you will plain rip offs instead if you want to learn to MAP,understand the increases,take out limiters, etc., is another thing
I have given the tip,the parts from the first map, that is the egr, and then scroll down to view all the other

then the egr, I've already changed, and in addition to that I modified the foot pedal, the torque limiter.
For costrutivo I mean that it is useless to tell me "you've changed only limiter, and foot pedal and evil" tell me where is wrong and why. So you do not learn anything..
I imagined myself that it was not a map is made well,but at least know why....
Anyway if anyone has a suggestion ,for those who do not know what a tip it to him, I remember me, is a hint when I say this is wrong for this reason,I would have done so.....this is a tip. Anyway there is no problem, I just don't think that this is the spirit of the forum; if you do not have information costrutive and useful to learn ,friends as before and I can even close the rear (I hope).
Thank you for your attention!

change pedal and the ldc does not bring power,briefly, a engine to develop the power he needs to rake in as much air and fuel as possible,so I advised you to from them.in the change the ldcs, everyone has his own methods,you can linearize the curve by putting a unique value in the tables (e.g. 500) from 1000 to 5200, or by opening the 2d and change it to a percentage,set the percentage,click on the map on the dim.desired,add and save.the pedal should instead edit the curves.parts from the third bend and starts to change so gradually increasing as you go ahead.if you want something more at the high speed you have to "rebuild" the last curve, let us case, there is no stops to 4500

hello frenk85,thanks for taking the time dedicatomi and the explanation...
then the ldc can't change it only in the table,if I open it first in tabular and then in 2d,I don't know if the fact that the map.I think the beginning where there is the first curve, but I don't know where it ends.
axes what I have? engine rpm and load?
it is really compicato.You can do a good job also in the table? in the event cmq I wanted to go back in 2d as I understand it is the curve that I'm looking for?
I then tried to search the 2d the pedal.....if I put them directly in 2d as I recognize the third curve?? if I go through the chart,the first part is a straight line up to an address where it begins a curve....but the map is only one curve?

you are wrong the display, you have to look at 16 bit, you have the 2d set to 8 bits, the pedal begins to 0794E2 and ends 079540.

after fixing the display,the ldc is:07886c-078890 the pedal, the said ugoboss you are affixed.
now open in 2d, "the injection phase"(egr) that you have already modified, and then scroll down,you have map mass air flow sensor that we leave it as it is, and get the injection split (map1) (boostxrpm) go to the address 072512 up to 072526 and draw a line(imaginary) dim 11 set the percentage e.g. 10% increments.this you do for all of the following curves,to confirm the changes, then return to the table click file,save as map increases.then open another map (map2)click file,load the map.click increases that you saved previously and confirm.with this you've changed the various maps of the time of the injection,not to be confused by the amount of diesel injected.

hi all,unfortunately I managed only a few days ago to put his hand on the map....
I have big problems to work in 2d,with ecm2000 me see the 2d map choice, but I do esattaente what I do in both tabular...
then I do not understand the maps subsequent to which he was alluding,I saw that the driver that I use doesn't recognize, giving it a name as all the other...
I perchiò thought that it is better to learn for now in the table and after having clarified some methods of use, perhaps I can try in 2d....
in essence, I changed the map key and that's it...but to have some results, how do I proceed?

and then I tried impostasto and then clicking on the percentage button but it does not change anything

In 2d you need to click with right button on the start address and the end of the zone you want to edit. You have to see just 2 green lines that surround the selection. If you change just one bit you'll have a single line. In the upper right show the 2 select boxes with the selected addresses. This is done with the + and - keys or pg + and pg - to change the values