Help on coding remotes and transponder fiat punto 1.2

Hi I have a problem I have a fiat punto 1.2 8V of the family, a key falling, and damaged (either the remote or transponder) moral of the story: the car is not starting it opens via remote control, I have another key without the remote control, but with a transponder that works regularly, my question with elm327 and multiecuscan full original, and can reprogram transponder and the remote control of another key, I've seen around that you can buy a key vergina (with transponder and the remote control) to digit honest with respect to the network's official fiat, and can then riprogrammarla without losing the old key without the remote control??
Thanks to all

You can not construct a key with multiecuscan, the transponders that are on the market are virgins, only requiring the conce a new key with no.frame you get already? precodificata and then with the diagnosis tool maybe also multiecuscan you can code it on my own with the pin code.
If, instead, you want to do this job you have to have a specific tool for programming keys in recent times make a read e2p directly from the obd, precodifichi the transponder purchased, the insert in the key already? machined from a hardware store then if you do not have the pin code you can obtain from the software of the pc tool diagnosis enter the pin code and enable the key.
If for you ? difficult to this, I find that there are some hardware that can clone the code 2

Which tool you talk about in particular??

That ecu mounts the car in question?

Ecu magneti marelli iaw

Use zedbull clone, and to do this job, I have to disassemble the bodi unsolder the e2p 93lc66 to read the content then I read the zed bull the file I pre-coding proceeds, the pin key is made

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Use zedbull clone, and to do this job, I have to disassemble the bodi unsolder the e2p 93lc66 to read the content then I read the zed bull the file I pre-coding proceeds, the pin key is made

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I would add I am talking about fiat punto 188, the first set point, the cloning of the key that you are doing all the hardware

Jovandj you can be more precise about the type of ecu please? Marelli iaw what?
I wanted to know if you could take other roads...

iaw 59F many thanks glittering chiffon party dress.fitted

talking point 188 mk2 2b the one with the lighthouse in the straits 99 03 to speak

At this point, you're not the first to delete the code it permanently?

At this point, seen that mounts to a IAW 59F, you're not the first to make a scodifica total? so you do not have more the problem of the keys?

how do I do a scodifica total??

In the meantime (to know which version of HW and` your ecu. Then, however, we want the dedicated tools.

hw30 tell me what tools can I/should I use??

Then I confirm all if you're not equipped fattela do from a colleague or some hardware equipped hello

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Then I confirm all if you're not equipped fattela do from a colleague or some hardware equipped hello

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Listen to me make a scodifica total 59f hw top 100 ? feasible but you have to have dedicated tools to read the ecu and programs for the scodifica ,then you have to intervene on the harness can the ecu the engine to avoid that the scodifica fail.

The right to information that equipments speak, and that change should I do??

For the scodifica you need to have a tool to read the ecu (gallo 2 v48, or 53), I have a tool dedicated to 59 f in a few minutes me the scodifica , a software scodifica immodec or equivalent , and a diagram of 59f and a diagram of how to stop the can line with a relay I have always partial, and I don't know if with the total you have left the engine light on or any tool that is not working good work, greetings

If you work in the can, you can forget it. Otherwise, you can easily make from the ecu with the tools mentioned by glittering chiffon party dress.fitted.

Sorry, but if you need not ? to force the return of your remote control, you just have to pull out the transponder from the key as normal (you do with a cutter in 30 seconds), set in the antennina receiver and at the hardware store, 5 euro for the make all of the copies that you want!

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Sorry, but if you need not ? to force the return of your remote control, you just have to pull out the transponder from the key as normal (you do with a cutter in a 30-second), the set in the antennina receiver and at the hardware store, 5 euro for the make all of the copies that you want!

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I'm sorry, no I understand

At the beginning it seemed to me you wanted to get the key in with the remote control without order the spare parts fiat why? costa a bang, right? Instead, they proposed to make a clone of the normal key in the hardware, however, costs about 60 euro. This can be avoided (such as the scodifica), taking the chip of the second key, put it into the antenna code, then the normal keys (without chip) you copy as many as you like for 5 euros. If instead you need the remote control, you can take a body with the key/remote control combined with the breakdown, scodifichi partial the engine control unit, mounts on the body, put the chip in the key matched in antennina code, the card transmitter in a housing new scratching and carving it as the second original key.

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Originally Written by pititec

At the beginning it seemed to me you wanted to get the key in with the remote control without order the spare parts fiat why? costa a bang, right? Instead, they proposed to make a clone of the normal key in the hardware, however, costs about 60 euro. This can be avoided (such as the scodifica), taking the chip of the second key, put it into the antenna code, then the normal keys (without chip) you copy as many as you like for 5 euros. If instead you need the remote control, you can take a body with the key/remote control combined with the breakdown, scodifichi partial the engine control unit, mounts on the body, put the chip in the key matched in antennina code, the card transmitter in a housing new scratching and carving it as the second original key.

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I pititec

I.e. practically have to go around always with the same chip placed close to the transponder?? The code is rightly bypassed and the keys do have to do hundreds

If I buy a new key and I put the chip of the old in and then program the remote control in diagnosis could go? ?

if you buy a new key and put in the chip of the old one to goodwill you're set.

Have you done the math of how much it costs you, I'm traffic compared to a key grip in the Fiat??? Mah!!!

just go by who is doing the keys that have the tool x copy the transponder do before and savings, which take ori