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I have a 500 of 2007, one of the first and, already? at 45000km clutch slips when c'? wet. the machine has more? the fap and ? been mapped to soft, we are on the 90ina of hp and torque do not ? exaggerated (just for the clutch problems).
would you be able to recommend a reinforced clutch to be mounted instead of the original?
thanks
I doubt that is a problem with the clutch, because on the one car they have mounted the turbine big and not slide...anyway, have you seen if the oil goes above?? when you have removed you could make a mod to give her more load with the original!!
many owners of 500 1.3 have encountered this type of problem, especially on the first versions (mine ? in fact a 2007, one of the first). exchange ? clutch are not the ones mounted on the point, bens? the ones that you use on the panda
You provatoa ask lumens in fiatQuote:
Originally Written by Riccardo#28
also the panda to me is that you do not have problems with the clutch...
however, if you want to change for a better one, I advise you to always take the components, fiat...
you can mount the 90hp version of the multijet or the dobl? always with the same engine...
I know that the clutch of the panda and very delicate because it is the same mounted on the gas and do not hold a lot of torque,so if the gearbox and clutch is equal to the panda and that's why you have a problem,however I don't think that you can then mount the clutch of the 90 horses because the 90 horses mounts a change m20 with a flywheel (dual mass) while your and different, and it is also monomassa.
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Originally Written by munro
Panda Petrol and Panda 1,3Mjet with the same clutch?Quote:
Originally Written by mjet10
never seen n? felt..
munro speaks of the Panda 1,3Mjet..
and more than 1,3Mjet 90hp 5-speed and mono-mass 6-speed bi-mass
I have been told by a mechanic fiat that only for the panda 1.3 mjet 70 hp and was fitted with the same group clutch transmission, petrol, then I don't know to be sure you should do a search. However, the 5 gears and monomassa I have not thought about this option but you should always see if they are adaptable
exact cinqueturbo....
the dobl? The 1.3 multijet 90hp 5-speed transmission mounts to the flywheel monomassa clutch 215mm
the 500 1.3 multijet 75hp or panda 1.3 multijet 70cv 5 speed mountain they fly monomassa for? the clutch ? 200mm diameter...to change, and the plateau with the frizza from 215 of the spring is the toughest then it holds more torque.....
According to me the best thing about and search for something specific and reinforced so as not to have more problems in the future, if you want to make the mod more heavy
if you are looking for on ****** there are millions of companies that make clutches reinforced!"!!
I would say take a Valeo Original in its traditional package or, alternatively, that of the turks in the white packaging,
lance Y1,3Mjet 105hp but it matters little since, and the same as the 90hp and are you sure that it holds..
beware of those box fiat happened to me everything and more? with those..
talking with a friend fiat dealer but said they are of dubious origin..
by comparing the codes with those of the fiat, but it is really fiat do not match..
from the outset that if you take the fiat 90% are regenerated!!!
exactly, and a search on ****** me, the son made..Quote:
Originally Written by carlo abarth
it would be for? interesting to understand what clutch would you do in my case (mapping and luca stanca), and of the best quality? of the original, but that does not cost a fortune, that is not too hard to pedal, and that does not tear.
to mount the 1.3 90hp what should I change?
thanks to all for the interventions
nothing...just the clutch...
gorgeous!
then gi? a valeo for 90hp should be good?
*munro confirms that it does not serve to change the flywheel and the clutch on the 90hp from 215mm to go on my flywheel?
Munro are you sure? I do not think that you can put the clutch 90 hp 75
I say that v? without replacing anything if it's not the same frizza.....I will repeat the disc 70cv and 200mm 90 hp and d? 215mm..
therefore, strictly speaking, the disk of the 90hp on the flywheel of the 70cv "sticking out" for only 7.5 mm for the side...
however, if you want to be sure just going by a ricambist? and compare the two clutches...in particular, the plateau at ****llo fixing...that will be the same..
Do check the map in the first place, can? perhaps he gave too much and the clutch even if with 45000 km does not hold. Possibly without thinking on the research of the clutch, reinforced, you will spend a little more? but sure as he works reinforced with maps somewhat pushed, does not work on the stock.
the map does not ? thrust and these problems are known about 500 1.3, on the forum cinquecentisti he speaks
Advice before buying a different clutch informed well before then, you can't put it I recommend
just take it from delphi a clutch 70cv and a 90hp and see if there are differences.....
I say that nothing changes...only the plateau slightly more great but ****l flat contact with the disc...
the attack ? the same...
can't do a flywheel in a way to the 70cv and another type of flywheel for the 90hp when to change, and only the diameter of the disk....indeed only changes the plateau.....for the record, a clutch of the 90hp...what then ? the same as the ypsilon 1.3 mjt 105cv..
held safely 135-140cv with the pair that follows...if you set that you want to force you to pluck like chickens by the seller to turn that tacks a reinforced clutch,where the reinforced c'? only the name....bh? do it...the portfolio ? your...having said that here I close my..
Listen to munro I didn't want to go against,I just wanted to recommend that you buy only when you are sure not to make mistakes.
If the clutch you can adjust you are right to say that the better of a reinforced that the coast loooong idi more
thanks munro, you have been very useful ;)
check that it is actually as you say (not to bad faith, to be clear) and I think that percorrer? the way you indicatami
clutch bought: I took a reinforced specifically for my model.
the clutch of the 90hp does not fit because the shaft of the gearbox has the same diameter as the version from 75hp ;)
I paid for the kit, really just taking it from a company of Monza, once mounted (in between a month due to university exams) dar? an opinion..
Well, how much have you paid??? Surely after mounted The opinions nn will be positive!!! Good buy, enjoy it....
You know the company I am talking about?
Mp ;)
I have heard, it seems that all men speak well...
MP Garage...
with mp I meant that you could have sent a private message pointing to the cost of the clutch, but there sno successful :D
the company ? the like clutches
Ah sorry.... I got it wrong I...
Sorry
the company I have spoken very well for? honestly, I did not had the opportunity to test their products, and when the mountains make? pleasure I think of all know your opinion..I think that beef from 25 to 30% of the preload and increase the thickness of the sheet metal right?
really? change to different things: the layout and the number of the springs on the disk, the orientation of the segments of the spring, where he worked on the bearing and the bearing..Quote:
Originally Written by cicciogsr
try to spray some nitro thinner inside the flywheel. many times as the other users to recommend, for various reasons, loss,ect ends up oil inside them. see if you find oil stains near or qnd turn on the hot air from the vents out a bit of the smell of oil
chrono you say to me? ;)
no toretto. the trick that makes your clutch ? given the hardness of the clutch disc. the same game they do the clutch in copper. for this are not very suitable for every day use. imagine that hassle in the bustle of the town
I don't imagine.... I live it every day ahahahahah...unfortunately there are pros and cons ;)Quote:
Originally Written by cronoprima
:)
*riccardo, should be equal to that of the ypsilon. that usually lasts a lifetime. anyway, let us know what was the problem