citroen c4 1.6 hdi 2009 frequent rupture turbines

hello guys I would like to know if any of you out and be successful in a case like this car every 2000 km grinds to a turbine , in spite of their sost. 2 turbines, oil pump , succheruola , delivery pipes , fittings, oil return , clean, oil plant, oil 5w30 + aditional ,I was aware of the problem on these engines, but until now I had never had, and continues to break ,and someone ever happened to you? in the dealership to the customer have said that to solve the problem must sost. the engine ,and never can ,the car has just 90000km. thanks

a good analysis by a specialized centre takes away any doubt both metallographic analysis and chemical and ascend to the cause of the break

I am the past with the a3 tdi 140cv and in that case it was a batch of defective turbines that were balanced wrong, and the quality control? not had noticed. In your case it could be the aps sensor that reads the wrong pressure and work, consequently, the turbocharger overspeed. In addition, if at least once the turbine ? your "fired" they would have had home also the intercooler, if present, to avoid that the metal filings could end in a circle after the throw-on-the-road car.

considering that the dealership should replace the block already happened..... first, however, you have to do another test

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Originally Written by domy_pikkio

considering that the dealership should replace the block already happened..... first, however, you have to do another test

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Sorry s? I'm intruding, but that problem would have the block to get to replace it?
I worked for the Peugeot from 2004 to 2008, and not me, never happened anything like that?
I ask-to-date...

I don't think that is the block if no, would not have path 90000 km?? don't you think!!!

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Originally Written by cinqueturbo

Sorry s? I'm intruding, but that problem would have the block to get to replace it?
I worked for the Peugeot from 2004 to 2008, and not me, never happened anything like that?
I ask-to-date...

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Check Pressure and Oil Temperature,
and if the doubt about the quality? of oil make a simple test brings the oil to 150? up in a container and if bubbles before you know where to head banging...
to me and asked for a match Mopil1 of dubious origin, and many of the mechanics of my knowledge, the year had some good problems.

Degradation of the engine oil,you have to find the cause

good day regarding the block why? I say ch you have to replace it, I worked up to about a year or f? in ford and me ? success the same problem year replaced the turbine in a focus three times in the space of a short time the problem, and ch c'?ra a complaint I called directly to the engineers at ford and I have done several tests ch then we came to the conclusion ch I had to replace the block due to a little pressure from the unit to the turbine passage clogged greetings

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Originally Written by domy_pikkio

good day regarding the block why? I say ch you have to replace it, I worked up to about a year or f? in ford and me ? success the same problem year replaced the turbine in a focus three times in the space of a short time the problem, and ch c'?ra a complaint I called directly to the engineers at ford and I have done several tests ch then we came to the conclusion ch I had to replace the block due to a little pressure from the unit to the turbine passage clogged greetings

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they have said the same things in both that citroen peugeot

Finch? the warranty does not forgive us nothing but considering it has to do at his own expense the change of a monoblock ? a drain..
you want that after 90k miles, the engine is open does not make at least the bands and bushings new ? head gasket, studs and more.. 2000 eur ? the minimum..
maybe if c'? a passage blocked you try with additives + aggressive.
At the end of the fair, however, to blame ? the engine oil, I gather..

To me on those engines the rupture of the turbo and it has always been caused by poor lubrication
Luckily I always got away with washing with additives, but I had already? heard that sometimes the oil passage block is blocking

The cause of the break ? due to lack of lubrication, in the bolt drilled out of the oil delivery from the unit ? insert a filter screen metal, but no one says it, remove the filter and you will see that surely ? clogged, I passed at my expense with a 407.

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Originally Written by Gerard

The cause of the break ? due to lack of lubrication, in the bolt drilled out of the oil delivery from the unit ? insert a filter screen metal, but no one says it, remove the filter and you will see that surely ? clogged, I passed at my expense with a 407.

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You! it seems to me, on the side of the monoblock right?

The thing that makes you think ? that a filter is clogged, the house mother says to change the engine as a remedy..
If the cause ? lubrication failure I would turn a moment with the engine at idle with the tube of the oil delivery to the turbo off and see if c'? of range or if ? obstructed..
Then you follow the lubrication circuit and backward, if the pump ? ok, there must be a blockage somewhere..

It could also be that the obstruction is in the valve vents the crankcase holds pressure and there? not allowing the return oil from the turbo drain in the cup and to cool the turbine..

Checks and tests to do, but I think before changing the whole engine that goes.. :)

Assuming that is actually an obstruction caused by the filter are grieved to note the stupidity? to affix a filter element on a passage from the section reduced and, above all, in a point in which circulates oil all in all gi? the filtrate from the main cartridge. Aside from the discourse mustiness nowadays, I think it can only occur if you cook a oil that does not change from 40 thousand km at least..
a bit like the speech of the bmw in which all refuse to change the filter and oil vapours with a model " settling" that made the skins from the pockets intent of 60 eur, without doing anything when might simply removing the sponge from the right..

Excuse me ? asked for a focus ? came off after the second break of the turbo after 5000km, replaced with a rebuilt, clean with washing the circuit, lubricant and clean the catalyst of the dpf, the surprise was clogged from the oil burning of the turbine above that has filled the pot of oil, verifying integrity that drains well

a good turbinista, observing the crowd is deceased, could tell you with simplicity? if the cause of his break ? due to poor lubrication or incorrect operation of the turbine. Consequently, it becomes more? simple traced back to the cause. Sometimes pu? also happen to buy turbines from shoemakers and star then to go crazy why? not have balanced well the people who sell.

I insert procedure attached to?the purchase of a new turbine
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In a 159 in the workshop a redline gave a blow so strong that you have stretched the bolts of the cylinder head that is ? loose with oozing of water and oil... series Of nothing ? impossible

guys I think I found a cause of the frequent breakages of this turbine for the moment I am making the travel to be able to check among a certain number of miles.will update on the work done as soon as it will prove? and I make sure 100% that the car goes well