Hi all guys, I might have an opinion on this map is made by me?
Thanks
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Hi all guys, I might have an opinion on this map is made by me?
Thanks
you pull up to 180?
No becauseQuote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
why? the rail ? at the limit, can? be that at that speed? gives you failure with the beach suddenly. the rest does no damage, mod quiet...
Look, I don't think I've seen maps to the same drive that the rail ? increased by 7%.Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
what counts is not the percentage that matters but the maximum value, then I'm not talking about reliability?, but of recovery, caused by the fact that you have the last 2 curves of the time to 0, that relating to 1500bar and to 2000bar, then there are a bit scattered on the map that even the ones they send in the recovery.
The rail pressure does not increase the power, the council ? leave it original, or under 1400bar in a change to quiet like this
Can you tell me what are these bits scattered on the map?Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
07BD58 I found this, but I don't remember if there were other, you have to try to do a pull a 180 and see if the machine off (worn behind the diagnosis to remove the error). Of course you must also fill in the durve that I said to you that are missing.
What curves?Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
However, to address 07BD58 c'? the pressure of the rail, and in addition to giving the increases from 50 to load and 1500 rpm, I have not changed any bitQuote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
[QUOTE=SandroMarciano;39226] ...I don't speak of reliability, but of recovery, caused by the fact that you have the last 2 curves of the times to 0, that relating to 1500bar and 2000bar... QUOTE]
The I told you how to change up next the rail, but take a curiosity?, are you sure that it will rise up to those ****lli?
at that address, c'? a bit that sends in the security unit, and ? ori, just because? the ? the risks that go into recovery. To resolve to increase it to brighten 500punti then up to 1500barQuote:
Originally Written by carbo92
I have changed indeed, and I have given a 4%..
hello my conziglio perzonale and' igne. parzializ. you can mod. also with % more and aricchimento you do the same reil, for the moment, let him ori and starts to feel and hear the engine
But why? the rail should I leave it lose? I know that on this type of engine is the pressure of the rail on both the limiter and the rail pressure are made the same and should not exceed 4 to 5%.Quote:
Originally Written by marco
carbo92 I have not told not to do it, but do it after that tried the car to hear the differences so you realize, even to the ear of the engine. however, I always rely on the map to the mod. however, I know that the pressure reil you should not touch it.
Ok Ok I apologize then, anyway does anyone know where can I find the iq limiter?Quote:
Originally Written by marco
yes, but why? don't try to search for them a little bit? otherwise it is only that you placed the map done and complete.
You know what is the change of the rail? Before editing it, I think it is a must that you know how to answer this question!
It serves to increase the pressure of the diesel.. However I didn't believe that ask for advice or suggestions was to have the complete map.Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
in fact, I don't think you're asking for a map, however, for my opinion it continues so you're on your way.
Thanks Mark, in fact I wanted to figure out how to change the iq limiter, so even if they find before the torque limiters but I would not like to be wrongQuote:
Originally Written by marco
what is the change in the rail?
Need to change the pressure of the diesel oil. However, it seems to me that I have asked for this and much less I'm here to make me question.Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
Thanks
Not ? my intention is to make fun of you, I just wanted to note that increase the pressure of the diesel fuel does not serves the purposes of power directly. If you do not know these things ? difficult to make a good map.Quote:
Originally Written by carbo92
You explain it to me how ever you increase the pressure:
Increasing too much the times of injection of the risk of injecting too much time after the PMS and this leads to the increase of the temperature in the chamber and at the exhaust, and then to inject the same quantity? diesel in a shorter period of time to increase the pressure of the diesel oil. But you d? the case with the times that you use this change ? necessary.
Thank you for the explanation... but I from what I have been able to study, I realized that on the ecu of this type, the map pedal, the fuel injection and the torque limiter should be recognized for what I wanted to dilungare much.. however at this point I would like to understand how much to increase the various values to obtain at least 20cv in pi?.Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
Alt, for injection what do you mean? That unit? measurement do you use?
The pedal and the torque limiter to speak of the flow of diesel fuel, measured in mm^3/injection, then not ? that will change in the same way, but in the end if you ask 70mm^3/i to the pedal, then have that q.the. you will need to always set 70mm^3/s in the torque limiter, and in the other surge capacity that we have.
I am referring to the injection zoned, enrichment, acceleration, and torque limiter. Theoretically what you told me already? I know and you are absolutely right for? I have not figured out how to make these changes on the map. I may give an example, in points or in % of the maps that I have mentioned? I would be really gratefulQuote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
Even if you were of the examples can't you see why? you have a few messages, however the problem ? that you are bound to the simplistic view of the ECM. Try to use winols, track the same maps that are in front of you with the ECm. That way you will find all the real values in the axes and in the map and not the bogus load and rpm... However, what ECM called the "load parsializzato" if I remember correctly it should be a limiter of smoke. Enrichment and acceleration pedal and the torque limiter ? correct.
The injection times are boost * rpm or something like that!
It is the time of injection are the ones that you said boost * rpm so I have to equalize the injection times, the pedal and torque limiter right? However, c'? I have WinOLS but I need a little help.. you have whatsapp or something?Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
Yes, I have both whatsapp skype, but as much as possible we try to use the forum, cos? sar? also useful to others. then if you need I'll pass you the contact.Quote:
Originally Written by carbo92
Coming at us, the injection times are not changed in the same way, maybe if ? what is pi? difficult to modify to make a map "beautiful"...
For now try to have them stay original, so they are scaled up to 70mm^3/i, and we say that ? almost the most that ? able to inject the injector of 105hp. try to make a log to the original machine, by monitoring the amount injected to the engine speed and the accelerator pedal. You will find that the amount? injected from the machine ? almost? constant as it is hold down the pedal. Once measured you will have to search in 2D the limiter that stops the q.the. po
It is, in fact, on this type of car I know that the maximum you can increase the time of injection are 500 points to the cio? going from 70 to 75mm^3? for the moment I can leave them as well so. The thing that now I would like to know ? how to balance the limiter flue gas, pedal and torque, how does the calculation to give the right increments?. I installed WinOLS but I can't find the damos for this car.Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
I reworked the map, but I have completely changed some things. How is it going now?
500 points are not 5mm^3 pi? only, there are many more?, luck for those who gave you this information probably was not aware of the limiter of the deal? in function of the t_ref. for which he used, not all of the lappa of the times.Quote:
Originally Written by carbo92
Analiziamo a map at a time. After you do an eye to the map. Take the limiter fumes. In the x-axis you have a flow of air, expressed in mg/i and in the y-axis you have the rpm, the values that you find in the map are a range of diesel. said this like you would? Do you think that is necessary?
I have seen the map, but you have only increased the percentages... and in any case this off for sure because the increase in rail without adjustment of the protection bit.
If you increase the time of injection ? must also change the limiter of the smoke other the machine smokes. however, I start from 1500 rpm and 50 load giving around 9-10%.Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
there is no load and the number of laps ? wrong the one that shows you the ecm! load the map with winols, and tell me what you see in the axes by opening the table.
The LIMITER (the name says it all), is to limit, reduce a certain thing, in this case the flue gas, if you increase this map, you can have an increase in the flue gas. but before you understand how to modify it you have to know how it works.
And how should I act then? I know k should be adapted to the rail and fumesQuote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
yes, but you do not change a tot why? the said the doctor, you have to know what a change in a determined point, do it, otherwise you are unable to modify the car as you want. Is out of the usual result is mediocre...
The limiter flue gas acts limiting the flow rate of the diesel fuel. then ? linked to the foot pedal and the rev limiter a couple, we say that ? of the same family, but this when you edit you do from the calculations, and let's say that up to 140cv (estimate) not ? need to touch it, in fact if you notice the last column shows a value of 70.47 mm^3/s. Anyway, tonight will be? see how you progress, I have now run out of time. You, meanwhile, porva to do as I have suggested, and load the table of the limiter fumes in winols and take a good look at the axes.
You have the damos for this ecu?Quote:
Originally Written by SandroMarciano
no, it does not exist, but you can use one of the jtd 115, so the maps need for a change in the base there are all similar (even if you move)