raga, according to you, these aditivi work or make it worse?
I ? the past today a representative who offered me one but they are not confident, what do you think?
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raga, according to you, these aditivi work or make it worse?
I ? the past today a representative who offered me one but they are not confident, what do you think?
the best way of cleaning and disassembling..
be careful with that stuff.......a friend of mine on a 320d not wanted to listen to me to disassemble and clean the inlet manifold...? put the spray that stuff in the engine (maybe even overdoing it for?..) and the car ? went to the auto-ignition..in practice ? was so accelerated that it ? played the engine....why then did not even care to infiliarsi in the car immediately and switch off the engine by placing a high gear....he tried to turn off the picture, but it was already too late and you ? the fact panic....result..the engine that avr? the fact the 9000 rpm, with the consequent destruction of the valves...valve springs,rocker arms,tappets,chain,etc., etc.......
I giarras, the dirt remains inside, it does not solve much, in fact you may even get worse. Meet patience and unmount.
The best thing to do ? disassemble!!! I could not agree with you!!!!
Hello guys, I was cleaning the intake valves and use the products of the Liqui moly leader in the sector, but not with spray and various things but with specific equipment that makes you in addition to the suction also cleaning the injectors, valves, and cleaning systems and methane gas.. now for some years that I work for me, then, still in exceptional cases where the dirt ? in the deal? huge you have to unmount why? not c'? additive that takes.
Instead of those for the cleaning of the injection system, the ones that go in the tank?
I occasionally put them in the tank
according to me they don't do anything end products intake, and the usual cleaners injectors I have seen all of the color additives that are in the tanks,the ones that connect to the pump cycles,those direrttamente on the rail (for gasoline) or are the loser I am, or how I've always thought it's called marketing
however, with those that connect to the rail I speak for the gasoline of problems to the injectors, which I have resolved. ( where I worked before c'? and you used )
then if you are good at one thing but ruin another this I do not know.
let's face it once and for all some products,especially those mentioned a few posts ago,they are good....
but they are more for a speech "maintenance cleaning" of the various systems.....
if these are overlooked and not treat every once in a while when you get to the point that they are very dirty and there are no miracle products that bring everything in the standard....
the only solution, and the one written by our moderator....there are other methods....
munro, you have expressed exactly my thoughts, I ? failure to only the time x to be able to describe as you did,I know well these chemicals,if used often, and before you are trained residues, excessive work, otherwise ? only a palliative.
they are products that combine the philosophy "to prevent ? better than cure"...
and a p? as when one brushes his teeth every day prevenisce cavities and other problems....
but if I put them in lava ever a time that you are decatur st? teeth what do you want to clean more??
Quoto munro and giarras in general...I add after 25 years of experience additives that work for the real cleaning, even in conditions of dirt extreme are those for the power supply systems with direct treatment (no tank) and are only 3 brands at the top winn's, liqui moly, tunap
If you disassemble the intake manifolds of any diesel car(with the EGR not deleted) that has more than 150000 thousand km you realize that no product you can aiutare.E difficult to remove even mechanically
I understand.. and then if these products are "miracles" we, who are we trying to do...
In fact, as a friend of mine says the work there we have to create ourselves;)
I I tried them.... but with poor results, maybe null and void.... the end want to remove and clean with patience...... maybe as someone said.. could go well as a "prevention".... but it would be to do a test
the only solution is to disassemble and clean
I also have to disassemble the whole, for? possibly you do not have too much time, you can try a product of arexons
? for the carbs to? it works really well, I am astonished as well I and not c'? 't even need to go to the rag.
If you opt for disassembly, however, will recommend the Fulcron pure ? always a product of arexons.
I am also for disassembly ! but with regard to plant injection on the use of additives I agree if they are used as a prevention and not as a solution. Anyway, the bardahl and a good product
the ceramic suction does wonders
For the intake manifold I also think the best solution is the removal and physical removal of bituminous material that is ? formed in the course of thousand Km. With regard to the injection system (diesel) I have always been limited to the use of products to put in the tank with good results.
I always do the treatment ceramic power liquid full ( aspiarzione,oil, fuel injectors)
I've heard of metabond, has anybody tried it?
Once I used them too , but now I do a nice cleaning . Sincerely, some products still use them and it seems to work, at least.... I'm talking about products for the cleaning of the gas injectors, I have done 2 cars they seem to go well yet.
The ones for the intake manifold also no do not do just what they say.
hello Michele, what product you use for the cleaning of the injectors, LPG and with which modeQuote:
Originally Written by michele30
I use the products of the wynn's and I am fine,of course disassemble and' better', but it takes many hours of work and not always the customer and agree
I also use the products of this brand for a few months, in particular the egr and turbo cleaner x the geometry I have to say that no, they are not bad at all the only problem is that you have to use just a little at a time, why? you run the risk of detonation, especially with the egr sblock
the more that see if they work or not and if they do damage (I state that should be used with knowledge of then) you have to see that they are of the known brands and well-known and not the usual cranie that you trovano. given and not allowed to disassemble, clean, and reassemble, and always the best, we also consider that a car of today to disassemble and always a rognia with risk of erreri various products ,the GOOD ones, they work, not to ruin anything, and the council to put a cardboard on the discharge to avoid being the bumper nero.E however, give the best of himself in the phase of prevention more than cure!!
And there we are again with the mechanical "experts", I say "siiii, okay," spray into the intake manifold and clean. With a bit of logic and mental health it can be concluded early on that may not have positive outcomes such operation. The polenta ec produces the EGR and very thick, and hearty. First if you must chew the engine and goes to impasticciare valves ostruendone the closing for a few minutes, then passes through the turbine (here you have to pray to the gods that you don't know) and hoping that it does not stick to somewhere , it ends up on the grid of the catalyst where it should burn completely , mind you the stage.
I suspected also of a dimension to unbalance the engine, given that the detergent and composed of substances that are very fiammabili. Someone there and succeeded, congratulations.
It is obvious that the egr you have to disassemble and clean by hand (I least I do so?) additives do some splash after the manifold for? of course if you disconnect the egr from the manifold and are in 2 cm of zozzeriria even on that then there is little it does say that I see the most? as a periodic maintenance to prevent (if you always talk about good products otherwise!) and the fact that you have to be careful and normal that are also contained solvents
hello spiki_x, I don't know if it was addressed to me what you wrote, but if it was, maybe you didn't read well what I wrote, and by the "mechanical experts" to people who perhaps do not even know who they are and make that work. Before I address myself in a way that is almost offensive, chederei prior experiences may have had a person seen that the undersigned and 30 years with the engines working and not "only" road.
Obviously it was not addressed to you. I was speaking in general and from my experience, given that I've covered the topic recently. We have redone the head of a Mercedes A170 and took the inlet manifold to clean it up and my mechanic and party :"what is to hinder, spray a little spray cleaner and it is good!" luckily, I listened to it, because the output of the crazy stuff from the tubes.
it can be normal that spitting from the exhaust,it means that it is wiping and spitting out the crania. and see what was spitting
You have done well to remove everything and the method pi? sure x clean it well, spray only serve when the loss or damage ? little