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pippo65
Hello guys,I would like to know if it is possible to mount the above ecu on a Grande Punto multijet 90 hp.
Thanks.

todos
Hello, you can do that you have to change the soft and see if HW and more or less the same..

ringo
Pay close attention to egr and fap

pippo65
Hello, you can do that you have to change the soft and see if HW and more or less the same..

Hello Todos, in fact, his original HW-03P, this is HW 04P, I tried to upload a flash of an ecu HW 03P scodificata but the car is not starting.
Solutions?

pippo65
Pay close attention to egr and fap

Hello Ringo, in that sense?

ringo
If you use the 2d, and overlay the two original(I hope you have) you'll notice that the curves start from different points and in search of riallinearle. But this is no guarantee of perfect operation. I do a simple example if on a controller you have the curve of the fap to the address 1250 and on the 1270 it seems to you that can light up the engine. then, the first absolute proof align the two originals.

kid turbo
Hello guys,I would like to know if it is possible to mount the above ecu on a Grande Punto multijet 90 hp.
Thanks.
They must have the hw the same.
A is B-can and the 90 hp is the C-can

pippo65
They must have the hw the same.
A is B-can and the 90 hp is the C-can

So it is not feasible?

pippo65
If you use the 2d, and overlay the two original(I hope you have) you'll notice that the curves start from different points and in search of riallinearle. But this is no guarantee of perfect operation. I do a simple example if on a controller you have the curve of the fap to the address 1250 and on the 1270 it seems to you that can light up the engine. then, the first absolute proof align the two originals.

Right,your argument does not make a fold.

pippo65
On the marelli counts only the hw, unlike the bosch marelli has made a few versions, on the gp and panda can mount or hw03p or hw04p, on the idea/musa/y hw03t hw04t, on the doblò hw03r hw04r.
If your gp there was a hw04p then you can mount it safely, of course, on the ecu you have to write micro, flash and eeprom read from the ori.

Hi Matthew, I'll explain,my GP 90hp as the original, has a NEVERTHELESS, 6F3 HW03P no DPF.
Now I would like to use this new ecu for the us tests,but being a HW 04P 75 hp with dpf I don't know if I can make it compatible with my car.
Among other things yesterday, I also posted in the file section ori read full bdm of this new ecu the truck.
I tried to caricargli a flash of an ecu 6F3 HW-03P scodificata, but the car will not start.
According to you what should I do?
Thanks.

pippo65

there is an alternative'

pippo65
The problem is not the dpf, or dpf, the ecu's are the same, combia, only the sw; your problem is that you want to mount hw04p on hw03p, and it is not possible, you will start ever, tomorrow I have just a little time can you please post the sw 90 hp without dpf for hw03p for hw04p so fun you have a little to do the tests.

Hello,watch now the tests I've done a tot,but all gone wrong,thank you in advance if placed in the software, but I can not download it because I don't have enough
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A question,but if you could find a beckup full control has been equal to my original,scodificando the eeprom solve it?

pippo65
No, in addition to the backup you have to find a hw03p, the scodifica that works 100% in flash, on some sw versions if scodifichi the eeprom is not a part of.

Then I wanted to try!!!
Now I find one with HW-03P and then I try,if I need I do feel.
Meanwhile, Thanks for the help.
Hello.

pippo65
The hw03p you can find the punto classic, the panda and the gp from 2006 to 2009, is 75 to 90.
By trial and error you learn.

Therefore, it is not mandatory that both a 90 hp,the important thing is that it is a 6F3 HW-03P, if I understand correctly.

pippo65
Yes, I already told you, the marelli are characterized only for hardware, as software, you can caricargli what you want.

If your ori is hw03p you can only put a hw03p, it does not matter if 75, 90, with dpf or without, the important thing that is hw03p, then the software loads what you need.

For example, from 2006 to 2008, the fiat engine 1.3 has mounted only hw03p, according to the power and presence of the dpf have loaded the sw specific, but the ecu is the same for all models.
From 2008 to 2011 have mounted only hw04p.

Ok perfect,thanks for the clear answer.
Hello.