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hi , I'm trying to moddare the file in the my juliet , I've done various logs , that place below
the gist of the situation is that I would like 80-85mm3 fixed over 4000 rpm... from the log that you place , as you can see the 85mm3 you do see every so often in these conditions
3rd gear at 4000 RPM I have a nice 85mm3 from the log
4th gear 4000 RPM I have about 78mm3 log
5th gear 3750 RPM (I had to restrain) 76mm3 , and then to climb up the rpm would go still down...
now I don't understand why , I have calculated that with the lambda I have in the map ori , 1.05 of fixed and 1050mg of air (from the log I read over 1100mg) it should give me ALWAYS at 4000 RPM 80-85mm3 (with small changes of air read by the maf), and instead I find myself at values much lower iq (65-70mm3)
Hello,I also have the same problem on my giulietta after 3500 rpm the iq goes down, must missed some limiter or some sort of control to turn off.
The solution should be in a limiter which has on the axes of the temperature and conditions in a percentage (like the maps the pedal). That is, the value corresponding to 8192 (100%) you have an iq lower than what you want. For work, I open the pc a map for weeks but if you cannot find it, I give you the addresses.
Thanks R5, to be thorough I double checked the whole map, I also tried the value 8192 in the whole map and I went to comb through all of the addresses. I have not solved a head of cabbage, I have not found anything. The strange thing is that in the first, second, and third everything is ok. What I ask me. But by the fourth, fifth, and sixth, after 3500Rpm the IQ drops. I doubt that there is some limiter for these 3 gears that I have not found, even if a lot of limiters for gear I get up to 50nm in order to manage everything from the limiter only.
The discussion is not mine, maybe bmw320cd has already been resolved, also because I've seen only now that he has not written since June. For me, it is irrelevant to post my map, or work on her, or I can create a new discussion.
Post your file golds that between Saturday and Sunday I hope to have a moment ****** to give us an eye
CiaoR5, I have attached the file ORI more 2 mod with different setting of the limiters IQ. There is also a log attached, as you can see, the iq drops in both maps by 4000Rpm. But I noticed that in the map with the IQ from 90mm3 up to 3500rpm and then to climb, in spite of in the range of 4000rpm both maps have a limit 85mm3, a from in log 80mm3, and the other by 75mm3. All this, however, only in 4, 5 and 6 march. From the first to the third one that I ask. I tried to moddare also two maps after the pedal (1B3374) that seemed limiters, where the index I number gear and then a percentage, I have reset the 3 cakes but nothing.
In addition, in a test, I tried to make the limiters iq to the team. setting always 85 fixed without considering the optimal value.... nothing, even them the same. The iq drops.
However, I do not understand why in the two maps attached, where to 4000rpm I have for both 85mm3, in a map I am limited to 75, and in another I am limited to 80.
I provatoa rechecked everything, but something escapes me.
Post your file golds that between Saturday and Sunday I hope to have a moment ****** to give us an eye
Advice? :-)
Have you tried to put the maps smoke Gold?
Hello R5, in some previous testing I have tried, but if I remember well, without success. Now I want to try again for the sake to put it ori, also because already so it should allow me to get to those limits. I want to set max 85 up to 4000 and 80 to 4500. Change the step because I found a pair of points x iq altesopra 3500 rpm that the injection ends at about 6 degrees advance. I also wanted to take a look at a map of the 159 2000 170cv, just to see if there is any difference or limiter on the giulietta is set. Already acchio after the map request, there are a couple of maps on the 159 are at 0 and on the giulietta are set. Before, however, try the advances, I wanted an opinion from you that surely you are more expert.
I am a student like you.
an opinion on what? the file in general?
it seems that you want to make a map informed but the last I see...
you do not have a potty mouth nothing he BP ne correction Diesel-Turbo-Rail
this vehicle injects 100mg of diesel but not to have them injected because they do not reach the strategy map..
me difficult to explain a concept that is unclear even to me, expect reinforcements from someone that knows more...
I advised you to put ori maps smoke because it also happened to me and a fact that is similar on the drop of fuel on the top..
I am a student like you.
an opinion on what? the file in general?
it seems that you want to make a map informed but the last I see...
you do not have a potty mouth nothing he BP ne correction Diesel-Turbo-Rail
this vehicle injects 100mg of diesel but not to have them injected because they do not reach the strategy map..
me difficult to explain a concept that is unclear even to me, expect reinforcements from someone that knows more...
I advised you to put ori maps smoke because it also happened to me and a fact that is similar on the drop of fuel on the top..
The rail is already saclato to 80, given that I would be around 85mm3 as the maximum iq, don't think I've benefit to re-create a bp for 100 with a few bars. So after 80 always use that bp for the iq higher. Ditto for the turbo, which is already scaled to 80, but by making it work to about 0.1 bar more to say that could be adequate also for iq more. For map correction diesel what do you mean? the map conversion NM to IQ?
Excuse for a moment.
you know that according to the turbo pressure,Air Mass,air Temperature-heating oil for the engine,rail pressure, and I stopped in here for you to understand the concept.. to inject ToT diesel?
if you want to inject more and it does not touch the BP, and increases the "air mass" does not increase the rail pressure and not go in the area of the injection times that you should be able to spray that amount of diesel..
the ecu will never go to iniettarti most of 81,92 that already and a limiter as you want them to inject 85mg?
as already I said this file could inject more from the comfort of the mother but does not get to do it why and how you held down 3/4 of throttle..
I tried to express myself as I could.
Excuse for a moment.
you know that according to the turbo pressure,Air Mass,air Temperature-heating oil for the engine,rail pressure, and I stopped in here for you to understand the concept.. to inject ToT diesel?
if you want to inject more and it does not touch the BP, and increases the "air mass" does not increase the rail pressure and not go in the area of the injection times that you should be able to spray that amount of diesel..
the ecu will never go to iniettarti most of 81,92 that already and a limiter as you want them to inject 85mg?
as already I said this file could inject more from the comfort of the mother but does not get to do it why and how you held down 3/4 of throttle..
I tried to express myself as I could.
Sorry, but the limiters IQ I have increased all, in fact 85mm3 from log li injection, and in some tests I did to even get to 90 as you may have seen in the logche I have attached before. I do not understand why you say that it will not be more than 81,92, where did you get that value?
Anyway back to the topic of BP, according to me it is not true that you have to edit them in the map rail and turbo otherwise it does not go beyond a certain IQ (personal opinion and definitely more experienced can enlighten us), also because I have them already injected, as I said before, with the maps that I posted earlier, the problem is from the 3750 to up the iq goes down in spite of the limiters IQ to be 85, but the first of those turn them I all.
Everything from the pedal, where you decide the required torque, then the torque is converted into mm3 according to the conversion table (climbing up to 100mm3 x 50NM) from here if the limiters IQ and torque limiters allow the ecu injects what you ask for. The BP of the other maps you mentioned fermi 80mm3 will work for the IQ higher. So if for 80mm3 at 3000 rpm knows that the turbo has to give 1.5 bar for IQ higher will always be 1.5 bar. Then climb a BP in the map turbo to create one-to-100mm3 surely change to ****llo of fineness of the map, but made I think a little, I am first to give a 0.1 bar more on the map for the turbo that pushes a hair more in the other schemes. Ditto for the rail, which according to me for the IQ of 85\90 can work quietly at 1600Bar, so being scaled to 80mm3, in addition to using the values of this BP (I could understand to create a BP if you decide to inniettare so much diesel fuel from having to shorten the duration of the injection). The speech is a bit like the maps λ, are scaled to 1000mg of the air, but if the machine reads of more than 1000 using the conversion value of the last BP to make its calculations.
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CiaoR5, I have attached the file ORI more 2 mod with different setting of the limiters IQ. There is also a log attached, as you can see, the iq drops in both maps by 4000Rpm. But I noticed that in the map with the IQ from 90mm3 up to 3500rpm and then to climb, in spite of in the range of 4000rpm both maps have a limit 85mm3, a from in log 80mm3, and the other by 75mm3. All this, however, only in 4, 5 and 6 march. From the first to the third one that I ask. I tried to moddare also two maps after the pedal (1B3374) that seemed limiters, where the index I number gear and then a percentage, I have reset the 3 cakes but nothing.
In addition, in a test, I tried to make the limiters iq to the team. setting always 85 fixed without considering the optimal value.... nothing, even them the same. The iq drops.
However, I do not understand why in the two maps attached, where to 4000rpm I have for both 85mm3, in a map I am limited to 75, and in another I am limited to 80.
I provatoa rechecked everything, but something escapes me.
It does not seem that you inject 85-90Mg??? the log is not seen him then I give him an eye for whim, my personal, good continuation..
if I can say my...
as you pretend to inject 85-90mm3 if you do not require in the first place in DW?
you know in Nm 85mm3 to how much torque correspond theoretically on this ecu?
comes carefully lim torque is then you will understand why you can not inject what you want,but first think on my question regarding how much torque corresponds tot iq..
in addition, many of the lim, you have jumped you a couple of iq maps the lambda in this context, there come also because, precisely, the limit in the diesel fuel, depending on air...I was reading that from the log view 1100mg and rpm with, lambda of 1.05, which corresponds to an afr of 15.2
made two calculations show that iq jumps out from the lambda...anyways I'll tell you 1100/15,2=72,4 mg, i.e. about 86,2mm3
if I can say my...
as you pretend to inject 85-90mm3 if you do not require in the first place in DW?
you know in Nm 85mm3 to how much torque correspond theoretically on this ecu?
comes carefully lim torque is then you will understand why you can not inject what you want,but first think on my question regarding how much torque corresponds tot iq..
in addition, many of the lim, you have jumped you a couple of iq maps the lambda in this context, there come also because, precisely, the limit in the diesel fuel, depending on air...I was reading that from the log view 1100mg and rpm with, lambda of 1.05, which corresponds to an afr of 15.2
made two calculations show that iq jumps out from the lambda...anyways I'll tell you 1100/15,2=72,4 mg, i.e. about 86,2mm3
85mm3 correspond to 400-420nm to about 4000rpm , and this value I require is on the gas pedal on the lim couple....
the lambda is already excluded , otherwise not inietterei the 85mm3 in the first 3 gears and then drop off dramatically
if I can say my...
as you pretend to inject 85-90mm3 if you do not require in the first place in DW?
you know in Nm 85mm3 to how much torque correspond theoretically on this ecu?
comes carefully lim torque is then you will understand why you can not inject what you want,but first think on my question regarding how much torque corresponds tot iq..
in addition, many of the lim, you have jumped you a couple of iq maps the lambda in this context, there come also because, precisely, the limit in the diesel fuel, depending on air...I was reading that from the log view 1100mg and rpm with, lambda of 1.05, which corresponds to an afr of 15.2
made two calculations show that iq jumps out from the lambda...anyways I'll tell you 1100/15,2=72,4 mg, i.e. about 86,2mm3
It has nothing to do with the request of the pedal....
the solution is another but it's not even with 81.92...
there are limiters scattered in the ecu, it is not €4.. is it €5 and it has many more constraints, the couple in the maps..
in regard to the question of munro a year ago, the conversion nm to iq are set out in the map conversion, nothing should be calculated...
good luck
there are limiters scattered in the ecu, it is not €4.. is it €5 and it has many more constraints, the couple in the maps..
in regard to the question of munro a year ago, the conversion nm to iq are set out in the map conversion, nothing should be calculated...
good luck
It could be something similar to the TORQUE MONITOR is present on the EDC17C49\69?
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