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GRAZY
hello everyone I am new in the forum I January a kess v2 clone with tokens to be reset with j-link after 38/40 reads/writes.in January, I reset already 5 times more or less 200 scriptures, and I never had a problem, yesterday I tried another map writing finished as usual but the machine will not run! turning the keys, I noticed that the fuel pump in the tank does not turn and does not turn on the light the engine, but stays on the light of the CODE.I tried to replace the original file, but nothing, not even ID or tried the recovery but nothing to do I also tried multiecuscan to see if it gave some msg in the CODE but does not recognize the ECU would give me a hand thanks

leo_sg
you should resume the tour probably

andrew64
Test many times in the recovery 30/50 times if it fails go to bdm

sportknight
the unca solution is the bdm,also try to disconnect the battery for a bit and then a rewrite

todos
Hello, you can write in bdm, but you should have the file read in bdm, and not the obd....

blackwolf76
Read it through Bdm and then try to rebuild with the original.

NinoEcu
Send me the Data the ecu SW and HW That You step I file in bdm ok

GRAZY
hello guys thank you all for the answers!I tried again tonight, the battery was disconnected since yesterday but nothing.tomorrow I try with the recovery insisted, and if that does not work I try in BDM,the fact that the car was already mapped, then the original don't I'm not even in the obd, however, SW986 HW332 thanks

NinoEcu
you have to be more precise hw and sw ecu model
the file you step I

NinoEcu
disconnect the battery serves no purpose
and a ******* when you write a eeprom that you disconnect the battery you reset I don't know who said it but it must not be so

NinoEcu
I'm on this forum are a newbie because it is calculated according to the messages
but go quiet about what you told them, ok

NinoEcu
not so that you give advice to beginners
that means test so many times
now the ecu is locked for the wrong software
must read tour bdm in fact now only has to write it in bdm
and useless to try to disconnect the battery just post the model, year and engine capacity of the ecu
and I or the others posting the orig file in bdm

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GRAZY
hello nino ebc16c8 HW0281010986 SW367332

todos
Hello, this unit of alpha and a edc16c8 140HP you have to put the number of the sw, because there are several with the same number of Hw...

NinoEcu
here you go Alfa 156 1.9 JTD HW0281010986 SW367332

ugoboss
when these things happen sometimes you can recover it with the recovery, but almost always have to do as he said NinoEcu, a full backup with scodifica partial and gets back on the bike, then do the adaptations of the case and should solve.

GRAZY
thank you, nino, also if not can I download it as soon as I get home from the trip I remove and I read in bdm

GRAZY
hello everyone finally this morning I had the time to read my edc16 c8 alfa 156 jtd 16v 103kw BDM with galletto v54 am attaching file give me a hand to unlock it

Driver
But can you make the diagnosis, to the ecu engine? I would not like the ecu is just shut off due to power failure or, worse still, burnt.

Errecinque
But can you make the diagnosis, to the ecu engine? I would not like the ecu is just shut off due to power failure or, worse still, burnt.

If you read it in bdm is not burned.

Driver
I say that because I've already! Pin out or the obd does not read and did not even ecu data and diagnostic, bdm went! 😉

GRAZY
hello turbodiesel80 the galletto to read in BDM, but I got it after that it is locked I always read and written with the kess clone

walter_ie
Hi guys sorry if m'm intruding, but I wanted to tell you to do the eye to this ecu cn kess... I will once I have burned in the obd.. nn I use it more now kess

Errecinque
Hi guys sorry if m'm intruding, but I wanted to tell you to do the eye to this ecu cn kess... I will once I have burned in the obd.. nn I use it more now kess

...Will state a case or your own tool that is skipped in that moment, is one of the ecu more reliable which is there in the obd

ringo
Burned in the OBD???????? Never heard of it. However, when you lock the ecu battery recovery beckup are just a chat by the bar or shop low ****llo, no offense to anyone. First thing to do is find the original file read in BDM, and reinsert it into the Eprom, always in the bdm. This is done if it does not work, you can start to test the hardware, believe me, I think I have enough experience to say. Then write does not turn on it is restrictive, if the framework turns on and the motor is running, nothing burned. The eprom of the control unit reads and writes to the serial simple, for instance just a pc and a Max232 with a couple of capacitors and resistors, like the old cards pirate of tele+, you do what I wrote and you will turn in a moment. The file also scodificati our friend ******. A greeting

ringo
I was simply asteriscato the search engine the most famous in the world.

ringo
Then I answer, where I wrote to read the map corrupted????? experience??????? 20 years of electronics and a poor degree in engineering will be used to something?????
We work mostly on trucks and race cars but I have always created emulators and additional starting from zero. We do custom cards for the management of cranes. I joined the forum to share some aspects of the work, but I see that is not so. I add finally that I responded to what you wrote.
Read, I repeat read the OBD is equivalent, with all the adroitness of the case, to say that you've attached a serial port to a pc and it burned. I will not go into details of all the operational and or couplers are present in a unit, do you have any idea of how many volts are used to break them, clone or not to clone. Do you know how many units drivers arrive here with written broke and have nothing of hardware, but only software problems????? However, despite your fervent arrogance, if I remember correctly the ecu should have a eprom ST95640 communication spi Bus is simple, with three wires and a desktop power supply from 2.5 to 5.5 v read and verify if it has problems. As the ecu is powered from the battery with a corresponding alternator to the possibility of sudden changes, etc, etc.... there are so many 7805 or similar that will block the flow of voltage that you get to burn a governor, believe me it is complicated, in view of the current game, almost ridiculous, for devastarli you should apply voltages greater than 50/60 volt . this is my mere experience.

ringo
For the files work or not not by the merits you said to find the original in the search engines and start them, do not read in BDM, but those which are most likely corrupt.

ringo
Then, in general, give you a piece of advice for all, do a reading from the pitch to the BDM, and have a beckup is always a good thing, you always do the first reading, perhaps asking a few euros more and then later go to the OBD, but if you have a problem restore it is easy. Have a small database of the control units in the treated you take away from a lot of trouble. For 20 minutes of work worth the effort.

blackwolf76
You are blessed to have clients so much patients... You allow yourself to keep a machine in the workshop a block on the ecu for a week...

I don't have degrees, work a whole life in the workshop and I know that to solve a problem the fastest way is the best.

On edc 16 , as this is much easier to intervene than in the other, a view of the port Bdm and ta relative ease of connection.

I in this case, I would try a Bdm backup, and in the worst case I would have gone into demolition and I would have taken another ecu that is compatible to riverginare and recovered the backup to fix the other.

Errecinque
You....the sin that you were to pluck on a thing obvious, that is, that the only way out is recovery from the bdm, and the user who opened the post is not is made more vivid to say if and how he solved

GRAZY
[I]hello guys there are, however, I'm away for work I go back tonight and tomorrow I try to take a look at the fileinviati from new diesel 80, but the size seem to read in the obd anyway, thanks to all

micheleyr6
Sorry for the stupid question...
On the edc 16 in the obd as well-known, it only reads the flasks.if after changing going to write in obd happens some kind of hitch is you nails...
In bdm you can write only the flash or the ec need to force full backup..

ugoboss
you can also write only the flash, the problem is that many not to say all, the reading is made in the serial flash are not complete, and then also writing it in the bdm does not solve anything, which is why it is recommended to always do before reading in the bdm.

cawadany
Also you have to hope that when you write by obd, block, have not corrupted the eprom.

micheleyr6
As eprom what you mean...the e2p or the flash.

cawadany
Yes e2p I mean

micheleyr6
Mmm to me it seems strange that can become corrupted the e2p...
When you write in obd are not only intervenes on the flash?

cawadany
It happened to me again, not on a edc16c8 but on a med9.1.
Yes, when you write by obd, write the flash. But I repeat, it happened to me.

GRAZY
hello, and' a bit' that I updated my situation, but it's not changed! I tried to contact the administrators of the site,but the problem and' recover ilbackup bdm on my ecu

uncle.pippo85
hello grazy excuse the intrusion, I can tell you from experience do not need to re load the bekup full, you need a file ori or mod of the same length or true 2,048 kb (of course with the same codes hw and sw )enter bdm and write only the m58xx so-called flasks once written, the drive will go on the bike without problems , if your bdm if you don't get the item m58perche sie blokkata you can build the bekup externally and then upload it , let me know ,

GRAZY
hello uncle foo,thanks for the advice but my ecu is edc16 c8 flash and 1024kb*****s, already tried with original file and mod and I also tried 2ep scodificata but nothing the guy who is giving me a hand in the site,think it is my clone galletto that does not write properly.

CLAUDIO.
hello, strange that you do not continue, and that he writes badly, the cock . I would do a test is the pin-out and read it in the serial but removed to the bench . so to understand if the problem is not in the trove

lui93

ketto21
I agree with claudio! you can do it at a desk with a tool with the task obd, powered not by the engine

GRAZY
hi guys solved the problem!I changed ECU and transponder!but this time I made a backup in bdm before mounting it!

cinqueturbo
Sti c...
I hope that you have not been stopped by the 23-05-2016??
a simple EDC16c8 of the Fiat group, could not you recover it?
and if you happened on a VW, BMW or MB? My mom...
however, now having a ecu working, made a Backup and put in place, the other can always come in handy..

salvatoreragonese
guys "exploit" this post to ask you one thing. I happened on a 147 140cv with the kess I went in to read I wondered if it total or partial, why? what are the differences