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pippo65
Hello all,I intend to delete from the ecu, the fap and egr from the above-mentioned drive.
So, being the very first weapons I ask for a help to the more experienced on the necessary material.

Thanks!!!

todos
Hello, I think that you should first make a backup of the control unit with a good programmer, if you have a program that tools you need to go to the right address to put in the fap off..

Errecinque
Quoto all and I confirm that the ideal would be a nice bk bdm, even if they say that these ecu marelli 8xx are a bit difficult to open. What I have heard to say that a good k**s is the most reliable tool for serial reading of the 8xx

pippo65
Quoto all and I confirm that the ideal would be a nice bk bdm, even if they say that these ecu marelli 8xx are a bit difficult to open. What I have heard to say that a good k**s is the most reliable tool for serial reading of the 8xx

In the meantime, thank you and thanks all for the answers, then let me understand..... a bk bdm with k**s what devrei do exactly?

todos
I'm sorry, but what kind of programmer are you?

pippo65
I'm sorry, but what kind of programmer are you?
As I already wrote above,I don't have anything yet,just wondering what you need to make the whole.

mafani
hi follow the advice of errecinque for the tool, also if with that you don't do backup but I write quietly, the two types of ecu that can fit your car,and also because from how you have written it seems to be a 6f3,then with respect to the luca stanca you turn to the online service of the forum

Errecinque
In the meantime, thank you and thanks all for the answers, then let me understand..... a bk bdm with k**s what devrei do exactly?


Looking for a little info on the forum, and you'll see that everything will be clearer.....there are tools that do only reads serial-to-obd, tools that only work at the bench (bdm,jtag,boot, etc) and tools that work in both ways.

ugoboss
if you want my advice, entrusted to someone with experience, if you have never done luca stanca is difficult for you, then, if you want to make a backup you have to open (very delicate thing to do) and read it in jtag, bdm it has nothing to do with this type of ecu, as for the serial I agree on the k*ss

leo_sg
Meanwhile, he began to buy the tool (kess, and jtag)

Errecinque
Meanwhile, he began to buy the tool (kess, and jtag)

Do not give info inaccurate the mistake if it is at the beginning......Kess ok, but jtag is a method of reading an instrument. what is the Ktag and if he wants an equipment multi-purpose the must buy both.

pippo65

From what I understand the problem bigger is the beckup that I would serve in the case goes wrong something......am I right?
With regards to the kess with what I can from the obd to read/write my ecu???
If you are using the online service I would be able to complete the job?
On the laptop I have ecm titanium 1.61 may be useful?

mafani
then I had to grade:
-the backup is useful if the writing doesn't go to good end
-the k**s from the obd you reads and writes as I have already said before, the two types of ecu (of course, if the inside has the original file)because it does not read the ecu but does a virtual reading
-the online service makes you edit the file that you're going to write to the ecu
-ecm tita is a sw map editing,you may find it useful to modificarti the file only if you know the areas to touch

pippo65
then I had to grade:
-the backup is useful if the writing doesn't go to good end
-the k**s from the obd you reads and writes as I have already said before, the two types of ecu (of course, if the inside has the original file)because it does not read the ecu but does a virtual reading
-the online service makes you edit the file that you're going to write to the ecu
-ecm tita is a sw map editing,you may find it useful to modificarti the file only if you know the areas to touch

But, in theory, the original file should have it in the database, the software of the k**s.... or I tell a joke?

michele30
Hi, the original file can't find it on the kess it on other hw, however, are in the database.
If you are interested I sell galletto v54 again, ( there's my post in the section I sell ) the read and write quietly.,

Errecinque
Hi, the original file can't find it on the kess it on other hw, however, are in the database.
If you are interested I sell galletto v54 again, ( there's my post in the section I sell ) the read and write quietly.,

I do not know....both the cock and the kess have in the sw a database file that at the time of id do ecu if it is present returns a virtual read.

leo_sg
Do not give info inaccurate the mistake if it is at the beginning......Kess ok, but jtag is a method of reading an instrument. what is the Ktag and if he wants an equipment multi-purpose the must buy both.

You I'm sorry I'm confused, and I was wrong to write..

todos
Hello all,I intend to delete from the ecu, the fap and egr from the above-mentioned drive.
So, being the very first weapons I ask for a help to the more experienced on the necessary material.

Thanks!!!
you should practice with a unit from breaking, and not that of your machine if you are in the first arme...

leo_sg
you should practice with a unit from breaking, and not that of your machine if you are in the first arme...

however, in your machine you can do any test you want, and you realize better the differences and if you should do some damage at the end and your..
I think so

pippo65
you should practice with a unit from breaking, and not that of your machine if you are in the first arme...


In fact, it is what I want to do,but I'm at the point what to take??? Gallo or kess?
A control unit to break-in than I is to cost?

pippo65
however, in your machine you can do any test you want, and you realize better the differences and if you should do some damage at the end and your..
I think so


carlo abarth
certain that before smanettre better to get a ecu forklift if no .....adios!!!

leo_sg
certain that before smanettre better to get a ecu forklift if no .....adios!!!
if you take a unit just to fiddle with, can't actually see the work that he did, in the end its not a ecu hard to find, I think so

pippo65
if you take a unit just to fiddle with, can't actually see the work that he did, in the end its not a ecu hard to find, I think so

Just to stay in theme,but if I find a unit the same,to be able to use it on the 500 I have to do something about it?

leo_sg

Just to stay in theme,but if I find a unit the same,to be able to use it on the 500 I have to do something about it?

Then you if you buy equal can be a discourse that works, however you have to scodificarla

pippo65
Then you if you buy equal can be a discourse that works, however you have to scodificarla

And scodificarla is quite simple?

leo_sg
For the first few times, nothing and easy, but you should make it partial or total?
Partial you must edit the file, instead of the total you put an emulator...

ugoboss
if we give advice we try to give them the right, the scodifica partial on the e2prom, the total on the flash, you don't need any emulator on this ecu.

leo_sg
if we give advice we try to give them the right, the scodifica partial on the e2prom, the total on the flash, you don't need any emulator on this ecu.


Excuse me

ugoboss
I are come behind to your speech, you talked about the emulator.

pippo65
Ok,when I will have the ecu if you would come back.
In the meantime, give me a tip on that attrrezzo take,not to spend a bang, but that it is functional,I'm undecided between kess and cock,and also where to purchase it.

todos
Ok,when I will have the ecu if you would come back.

leo_sg
I would say a cock in the as and a complete tool, it works on both obd and bdm......

You I also have the rooster and I would say that is not bad at all

pippo65
You I also have the rooster and I would say that is not bad at all
but you also have the kess?

leo_sg
but you also have the kess?


ugoboss
as you said TODOS with the cock, you have a complete tool that lets you do both obd that bdm and jtag (always that all if we are talking about clones) with the k*ss you've got an excellent tool for obd and bootloder, but if you want to operate in bdm must also take k-t*g.

Errecinque
as you said TODOS with the cock, you have a complete tool that lets you do both obd that bdm and jtag (always that all if we are talking about clones) with the k*ss you've got an excellent tool for obd and bootloder, but if you want to operate in bdm must also take k-t*g.

Hello Ugo....but it is true the story that I have read somewhere that the k**s and k**g do not read if the ecu is already mapped?

pippo65
Ok,I'm looking for a cock v54.

ugoboss
Hello Ugo....but it is true the story that I have read somewhere that the k**s and k**g do not read if the ecu is already mapped?

I don't believe, me it happened in the bdm reading a edc16c39 fiat group mapped (from me then I'm sure) in the end I say cks is not supported, for the rest I have read several which then were already changed but this is no problem.

Errecinque
I don't believe, me it happened in the bdm reading a edc16c39 fiat group mapped (from me then I'm sure) in the end I say cks is not supported, for the rest I have read several which then were already changed but this is no problem.

Well I'm happy since I took them both....it will be the first thing that I will try as soon as it is to place the PC. Thanks

pippo65
Well I'm happy since I took them both....it will be the first thing that I will try as soon as it is to place the PC. Thanks

Hello r5,could you tell me where you bought them?
Thanks.

Errecinque
Hello r5,could you tell me where you bought them?
Thanks.
I don't think I can say this openly and I don't know how to direct you. However, without a network, but in front of the building.

pippo65
I don't think I can say this openly and I don't know how to direct you. However, without a network, but in front of the building.

albertoS4
hello all, I too would like to do the operation to remove fap and egr

albertoS4
On a 500, even in my case, that tool would you recommend for me to buy in order to make the reading of the flash?

tranky
On a 500, even in my case, that tool would you recommend for me to buy in order to make the reading of the flash?

Which ECU do you have ?

albertoS4
Hello tranky,
I have read that the model I have. Consider that it is the first in the series of MJ

albertoS4
there is something that is good for all the models MJ?

tranky
Is the magic or a good drug dealer.
Above it was said the kess.. I Assume is correct the indication

albertoS4
;)
was wondering... I was given to understand so re-reading...
anyway, I look at that controller I have

passion engines
Hello, if it is for one car only you spend a lot of that to not go by a professional, then primarily need diagnostics to reset an oil change. by cutting and replacing the dpf, and then read the contents of the flash, often the v54 does not have the file in the sw seen that the reading is virtual, and must be open, but the ecu is not easy for someone who is at the first time, then the counter for the 6f3 need to read it, but for the family 8fxx, the situation is more complex and delicate, often in the opening phase of the pcb of the same breaks and does not communicate + once back in the car. The other thing to K...s for those who have the file ori in sw using the id obtained in the database file, and by reading it, it reads the files contained in the ecu. After this those who process the file correctly???? There is to buy the processing, even here in the forum for the online services. You make 2 accounts and..... good job.....

Errecinque
there is something that is good for all the models MJ?

If you want my advice let it go....start with luca stanca of this machine that is a bit complex. if you do not have any equipment, you should go to a professional for this job. then if you want to start doing something you buy the minimum equipment to read the file, found the sw type ecm titanium, and begins to read and study some maps, small incremenenti step-by-step and try on the machine, the differences in time x time and understand what they're touching

albertoS4
if it is for one car only you spend a lot of that to not go by a professional
I fully agree with what is written by you, especially if it is to make changes to the hardware. With only the SW are more confident to make attempts.

albertoS4
However, as soon as I can I see the version of the controller, which I mounted on and at least focus a then the ideas on the thing.

albertoS4
Some time ago the cinquino seemed to have problems of FAP, say it was only a hose of the intercooler that was destroyed (the one between the turbo and intercooler). The diagnostics gave me the DPF clogged but that was due to the fact that it lacked the pressure of the turbo.

albertoS4
I fixed by replacing the sleeve and resetting the error DTC in the ecu. after the fap went to the spot by just doing a few km

albertoS4
Anyway, I know the model of the control unit

pippo65
Hello, if it is for one car only you spend a lot of that to not go by a professional, then primarily need diagnostics to reset an oil change. by cutting and replacing the dpf, and then read the contents of the flash, often the v54 does not have the file in the sw seen that the reading is virtual, and must be open, but the ecu is not easy for someone who is at the first time, then the counter for the 6f3 need to read it, but for the family 8fxx, the situation is more complex and delicate, often in the opening phase of the pcb of the same breaks and does not communicate + once back in the car. The other thing to K...s for those who have the file ori in sw using the id obtained in the database file, and by reading it, it reads the files contained in the ecu. After this those who process the file correctly???? There is to buy the processing, even here in the forum for the online services. You make 2 accounts and..... good job.....

then the counter for the 6f3 need to read it

But how else to read it??? if I take a cock full in bdm can't read type the NEVERTHELESS, 6f3 my GP multijet 90 hp???

passion engines
then the counter for the 6f3 need to read it


pippo65
Hello 6f3 of the gp line can definitely the tool you described already has the file inside of the sw, in rare cases by the ecu id from the obd you get the data to look for the file that you need to work in bdm you need to remove a resistor, use schedule a spring of good quality ouure solder pin strip on the free BDM and a good stabilized power supply, bench.........

Ok, thanks.

pippo65
Hello guys,today I got the galletto,can you tell me what type of power supply to use? really I thought it was provided!!!
if I understand correctly, when you use bdm you have to feed both ecu galletto true?

tranky
Hello guys,today I got the galletto,can you tell me what type of power supply to use? really I thought it was provided!!!
if I understand correctly, when you use bdm you have to feed both ecu galletto true?


It would be more appropriate to open a topic specific, but it was inside you all, also the cable from a switch to the ECU (recommended or not use).

pippo65
It would be more appropriate to open a topic specific, but it was inside you all, also the cable from a switch to the ECU (recommended or not use).


todos
Ok best wishes for the new tool...have fun..

pippo65
Ok best wishes for the new tool...have fun..

and I expect that I will be here often to break the .....
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