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good evening everyone I have a time in mind to make a small change to the car service that we have at work...the legendary fiat uno 1.100 fire with the classic distributor cap rompibolle hahha. My intention is to mount on the car, which in practice has become a point (having on fitted the engine of 1,200 of the point itself) to a control box and everything needed for it to work.The other day I recovered from a car destined to collapse with the following : ecu iaw16f , ecu immobilizer antenna, immobilizer with key and part of the engine wiring. The problem is that I can not retrieve the network the pinout full to feed to the ecu,and having the wiring incomplete I'm having difficolà with the links, especially to the box of the immobilizer. Someone has this pinout?or can tell me where can I find it?? I don't know if someone has already done experiments of this kind, and if everything would work, but I think of you,I would in practice take advantage of the ecu to the point, only the necessary to get me to work the ignition coils then: sensor in phase with the relative toothed pulley,engine immobiliser,coils, and the engine temperature sensor do not think is necessary another. I hope in a your help hello to all!!
make a scodifica total of ecu...you should have no more problems...for connections type in the search engine pinout iaw16f...something jumps out...
unfortunately I do not have interfaces appropriate for the scodifica,I have only a galletto v54 but for what I could understand can not read this ecu...I'm looking on the net and a little bit there is on the diagram of the ecu but nothing about the box, immobilizer...tomorrow I start to prepare the connections to the ecu then if I find nothing I have to wait for the arrival of a point in the workshop to follow a bit the system immobiliser. Thanks munro for the interest!
Update: I managed to make all the links and try everything at the counter,through the diagnosis, I checked the start-up was enabled and I tried to pass the phase sensor on a metal intermittently to try the ignition, but nothing....if, however, through diagnosis I l and activation of the coils, the spark is there. Tomorrow if I have time I try to install everything on the car and me checking out the operation.perhaps the single signal to the sensor does not give spark?? Someone can help me?
facts make a scodifica total so that you're avantaggiato 80% of the problems in the code!!!
I don't remember if the iaw16f has the sensor hall or vr, but in both cases you need the sensor to read all of the phonic wheel..
For the code I solved it Carlo, I checked in the diagnosis and the control unit is programmed and the start-up is allowed...I hope tomorrow to have time to mount the pulley and try the all also so "the wheel" and still don't fix anything...but about what it says munro actually I remember that the toothed pulley is formed by many teeth and a blank space at tdc then it will be for what the bank did not give sparks...thanks to all tomorrow I will let you know how it went!! Still not finished this experiment, and already I was thinking of another...ie: if I used the ecu and the wiring to a point 75 hp or multipoint I was able to turn the LPG system old style ( the car is now with a carburettor ) in a LPG sequential exploiting the outputs for the petrol injectors that are unused...I'm intrigued by all of this hehhee
that is, as I understand you want to use the 4 injectors punto75 petrol to inject the lpg into the engine? if you...remember that the lpg to be injected must not be "worked" from the gearbox lpg to pass it to a gaseous state, you should inject it in liquid form, or at least you should see if the pressure reducers of the panda,punto cng can do for you, the important thing is to have in the rail and the injectors at least 2 bar of pressure....go peppe experience so you become a experienced on the engines...
Yes munro is more or less what I have in mind, that means taking advantage of the multipoint injection by actuating the injectors of the LPG with the outputs of the wiring for the injectors, fuel...of course I have to retrieve the injectors,rail and gear to collapse and I was thinking of those of the multiple given that by now if they are not easily...with regard to the transformation to the ignition coils, I have to unfortunately postpone to tomorrow,I remembered owning a toothed pulley, but I have not found and I have to then turn the tramjssione v-belts poly v trapezoidal.
In order to transform the belt is a snap, you only have to change the pulley on the alternator...
Sisi, I know the point is that the car is not mine but is of the owner of the shop and if he is not good, stop it for a few hours for one thing is not necessary I can not take the initiative...blackwolf for the case you remember if there are more types of pulleys alternator? I keep one in the workshop but there are various types of pulleys to the motor shaft I would not like that after I wouldn't be in axis with the alternator,for the shaft of the motor, I have remedied most of both with the ring gear on the inside than the alternator belt is on the outside
As you've noticed, too, there are different types of pulleys. There are those with external sensor, in early models and the ones with the internal sensor in the newer models. Aside from that the sensor is mounted on the oil pump and I hope that the motor that you have mounted below it is equipped with a connector, otherwise you can not install it.
Eye that if you take a pulley engines, very recent, such as those that have the variable valve timing in the cylinder head, mount a pulley with a different phase, and in that case you wouldn't be able to start the machine.
the car has had the engine of the origin point 55 or 60 I can't remember so it was already equipped with a phase sensor,I just have to go back to the pulleys mounted side by side and seeing if they are in line between them and the sensor...I'm not in the shoes I have to put in motion that machine with the coils heheh
guys before install everything on the car I'm reducing to the minimum the system of the ecu...I deleted already all that was going to monoiniettore and I left for now the probe of lambda (which I haven't had time to delete) and the temperature sensor. Precisely on this last, I had some doubts:at the end of a good functioning of all do I have to mount it?the ecu varies the timing advance based on engine temperature?I believe you but I'm not sure what do you advise me?
the ecu handles advance and takes account of the parameters in the function temp, engine temp, and air pressure in the manifold, and closed loop afr the lambda..
if you mount the sensor, detonation is also a function of what..
munro the knock sensor no,lamda sensor, pressure intake manifold and the temp the air intake...what do you advice me?experiment first without anything and see how it behaves?point without the lambda sensor, it run several and I believe that "if you can do without" for the rest I don't know
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