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alxcrs
13-05-2015, 11:22
Hello guys, these days I am going to write my first BMW, a 320D EDC16C35 163cv.
I'm doing the test to exclude the DPF without the use of Time... in this regard, we place the file ori,
full read with Kess V2 clone, and the mod file with the modification of the bit.
In particular, these are:

0D1080 - Bit Exclusion and Regeneration Control of DPF
View Motorola 8Bit
Bring the bit from 1 to 0
Is not changed by Time

0F1F66 - Bit DTC of the DPF
View Motorola 8Bit
Bring the bits from 1 to 0
Are also changed from Time

0C8FE8 - 0C904E - Panettone Exclusion EGR
Display 16Bit Motorola
After the maps "injection Phase" of Titanium (Maps EGR in reality'),
locate the panettone EGR and reset the curves after the ramps
After each curve, to reset the controls to 550 and 400 in decimal

In the meantime, I would like to try so, otherwise processero' the file with a Time and I will try and restore
the DTC before writing...

Usual utilizzero' the booster on the battery and stacchero' the plug of the fan, but I was wondering
if there were other things to take into consideration, given that the BMW's seem to be between
the most annoying...!!!!

9468

sportknight
13-05-2015, 15:12
if you can leak bdm ;)

explode82
13-05-2015, 15:32
I, also erche if you lose the data to put it back in the bike are in pain because of the immo-based ews

alxcrs
13-05-2015, 15:51
This is a big problem... I have only the kess V2 clone....

alxcrs
13-05-2015, 15:52
You say that I should not take the risk?

sportknight
13-05-2015, 16:32
buy a bdm100 and a template,on the chinese sites you pay them a******* :)

Marcuc
13-05-2015, 20:15
I sportknight... bdm100 on the ecu.. I tried to write it myself kess v2 clone is a bmw 520d with control unit edc16c35 and stopped at the first shot... maybe my kess v2 sucks, but I would avoid to write it in the serial

alxcrs
14-05-2015, 07:47
With regard to the reading BDM, I think that would purchase a KTAG from the guys of the forum, having
already the KESS....

Marcu, when you and' planted the 520D, as you have solved, you are enough for the function recovery of the kess
or are you forced to intervene bdm?

sportknight
14-05-2015, 09:18


usually in serial to plant why? the voltage ? low,you have to try to keep 14.8 volt constant on these cars..
I have done a bit of bmw in the serial but I kept the voltage high enough through a good maintainer of charge

alxcrs
14-05-2015, 09:36
I have a booster, I could upload it to the maximum...

claus
14-05-2015, 10:08
the booster ?? better a battery in parallel, or as a battery charger for charging continues

Marcuc
14-05-2015, 10:58
With regard to the reading BDM, I think that would purchase a KTAG from the guys of the forum, having
already the KESS....

Marcu, when you and' planted the 520D, as you have solved, you are enough for the function recovery of the kess
or are you forced to intervene bdm?

the function recovery is not ? served nothing, unfortunately, why? I had corrupted the e2p. also by reconstructing the total file that I read in the bdm, the machine didn't want to leave. I was forced to go into the bmw dealership who have written in the ecu, all the original data that the machine had at the time of purchase. did this have aligned all the ecu and the car after hours of programming ? finally the match

franco75
15-05-2015, 12:12
do not use the booster, use a nice big battery charger

Marcuc
19-05-2015, 14:17
you have written the bmw? ? everything went well?

alxcrs
19-05-2015, 15:52
Not yet, not mine, let's see if I can in the weekend...

alxcrs
19-05-2015, 15:53
I hope that everything goes well and, above all, that the solution of the dpf

alxcrs
21-05-2015, 11:10
Definitely Saturday, we will test the DPF off on this machine,
but I have a doubt that buzzing constantly in my head.

1 - I Try the file with EGR off and Bit for the DPF off...(as attached)?
2 - I have a file with EGR off and DPF off through Time?
3 - I have a file with EGR off and DPF off via Time + Bit Switch off + Rehabilitation of the DTC are cleared from time to Time?

According to you which solution I should try...?

PS: This evening I version 3 for you to take a look!

alxcrs
22-05-2015, 09:01
9479

Then... This is the file as processed by Time with the
single-bit address 0D1080 as in the first post...

I would, however, need a confirmation, the zones DTC, which leads to zero
and that I should restore, are:
from 0CD114 to 0CD1CA - 0F1986 to 0F19DE - 0F1AA8 to 0F1AFE????

I have also read that these machines usually have white smoke at
minimum immediately after the exclusion of the DPF, but I could not find
the solution; I read to reset a cake similar to the one of the
EGR, could someone give me a tip that can help me to understand
how to fix the problem?

alxcrs
27-05-2015, 11:18
Hi guys, unfortunately this was the end of the week nothing done... my friend had to work and not
we could try out the dpf off.
However, I continued to study this unit, especially to locate the driver out
of the titanium. In this regard, I ask for a hand to the more experienced to understand to what you refer
especially some of the maps. The problem is that in 2d I can interpret them according to their form,
but how do I know if they are related to the temperature of the air, water, or other?

These are the addresses that I have played, starting from the management EGR:
0C5EE2 - 0C65AA - 0C8FE8

Now some maps IQ:
0C6118 - 0C635C - 0D0692 - 0D7C20 - 0D7E56 - 0D821E - 0D84BE - 0D8702 -
0F42BC -

And, finally, the conversion map:
0F5260

alxcrs
28-05-2015, 09:16
Let us now turn to the maps turbo:
0C717A

Maps an overboost:
0EC8CE

And the ones that should be maps lambda:
0D5DF4 - 0D6280 - 0D64C4 - 0D6708 - 0D6B90 - 0D6DD4 - 0D725C - 0D74A0

I hope that someone is willing to help me with these fuoridriver....

alxcrs
Hello guys, then, riesumo this discussion for updates...
Currently the machine runs for two weeks with the DPF OFF using Volta and the exclusion of the EGR...
In the meantime, I am studying and trying to prepare a decent map (which I'm attaching the latest version),
it's not that I need the help of some expert to get some confirmation... Also because I would like to do
a map "complete".
(I have to say that I don't have damos for this ecu)



0C4AA8: First of all, the map that ecm calls "Injection Correction" and what' in reality'...?
Can be the map conversion IQ/Nm? (in the axes I read RPM and IQ, and in the map I believe to be Nm)

0C8FE8: Panettone EGR
I have reset only the bumps more low, but in diagnosis I error P0401...
I had to clear the two portions of the ramps descendants?

0D403E-0D40BE-0D42A2: Are the limiters IQ...?

0D5BB0-0D5DF4-0D6280-0D64C4-0D6708-0D6B90-0D6DD4-0D725C-0D74A0-0D8ED2: Are maps the LAMBDA?
In the axes, I read RPM and Boost, and the map should be AFR

0D7C1E-0D7E34-0D7FDE-0D821E-0D84BE-0D8702: Are the limiters IQ...?

0DC66C-0DCAF4-0DCF7C-0DD404-0DD648-0E00F8-0E033C: Are the maps SOI...?
In the axes, I read RPM and IQ map and a max value of 1387, which, multiplied by the factor
0.0234275 would antipo max of 32.5

0DD88C-0DDAD0: ....?

0EAA8A: Limiter IQ...?
In the axes I read a Rail and I believe the Temp. Diesel, while in the map a IQ maximum of 95.5mm3

0F42BC: Limiter IQ?

0F4DB8-0F5582-0F68AA-0F6900: Limiter Rail?

0F525E: Map conversion?



I have it set up from the pedal and limiters a request of 440Nm at 2500Rpm with a Boost of 2715mBar and a Rail of 1670Bar.
At this point, I wanted to fix the map converting Nm/IQ maps IQ, Lambda, and possibly the SOI in a second time, but as I already said, I would like an opinion from the more experienced than me to understand if I am interpreted in the correct way this ECU.

franco75
C4AA8 it would seem, but I'm not sure since the y-axis only goes to 7500 a limiting fuel as a function of the air
The exclusion EGR or hadn't you done with Time?

alxcrs
Hello Franco, as far as the EGR, I tried with Once but was wrong...
7500, it could actually be...

An update:
0D5BB0-0D5DF4 should be the maps of the SOI and not the LAMBDA as I had written a little while ago....

alxcrs
No one who is willing to give me some tips...?

alxcrs
New update:
with regard to the egr was not the problem, the closure in the map! the mechanical dodger who is engaged to replace the dpf with downpipe, also had to plug off the egr, and instead he detached the tube that is connected to an overboost... when I realized I wanted to swim in the pool!
Anyway, today I loaded the map... the machine behaves quite well... as soon as I'll be eviscerated for this ecu I'll make the arrangements for a new step

munro
unfortunately I can not download anything from the forum for reasons unknown to me...I don't even have a file with your own codes, otherwise a hand you gave them willingly to find all the maps and limiters...these ecu know them well enough and the engine m47 (with a few modifications must be davvro strong...but remember that many are limited to 230 km/h...
unfortunately, I can't even post a file with codes similar to yours where you can "copy the maps" because the file bmw are very different between them...

munro
oh I forgot, this car need more serious enough on the maps in the rail as already ori the press rail effective differs quite a bit from that objective, then if you touch the time (increasing of course), this difference is accentuated even more is, you'll never have the beautiful performance...
attentive to the turbine if your car uses a mitsubishi not to exceed the 1.7 bar...otherwise you will start to hear it whistle at idle after a pull...in the end this car feel much changes on the suction and discharge...

alxcrs
Hi Munro, I am glad to receive your response, I have always followed with interest your discussions....

As far as the limiters of speed, the quiet brought both to 299...
The rail and the injection timing I have them increased, but there are gone down heavy... Ditto for the turbo...
The machine in question already has 140k km, in fact, we decided first to deliver the mechanics to the new stresses, and in a second time, new clutch, intercooler, of the 530 and the map step2...
As regards the mechanics I have already modified the airbox, installed intake filter cotton and changed all the exhaust...

I'm sorry that you can't download, but alleghero' anyway, the map loaded into the ecu...
I am also preparing a complete list (address, address) of all that I believe I have identified...

I hope so that this becomes the discussion of the final on EDC16C35 BMW!

alxcrs
As anticipated here is the list with all the maps...
I hope I can help correct any errors.
I enclose also the list in text format so as to remain as a reminder to all.

0C3EF0 - Driver Wish
0C4068 - Driver Wish
0C41EE-
0C4AA8 - IQ Limiter f(Maf)
0C558E - EGR
0C5A16 - EGR
0C5EDE - EGR
0C6118 - EGR
0C635C - EGR
0C65A4 - EGR
0C8FE8 - Panettone EGR
0C904E - Panettone EGR
0D0692 - IQ Limiter
0D0F62-
0D359E - Torque Limiter
0D3CDE - Torque Limiter
0D3D84 - Torque Limiter
0D3DDA - Torque Limiter
0D3E2C - Torque Limiter
0D3E70 - Torque Limiter
0D3EB0 - Torque Limiter
0D403E - IQ Limiter
0D40BE - IQ Limiter
0D42A2 - IQ Limiter
0D44D4 - IQ Limiter
0D5BB0 - SOI
0D5DF4 - SOI
0D6280 - Lambda
0D64C4 - Lambda
0D6708 - Lambda
0D6B90 - Lambda
0D6DD4 - Lambda
0D725C - Lambda
0D74A0 - Lambda
0D7C1E - IQ
0D7E34 - IQ
0D7FDE - IQ
0D821E - IQ
0D84BE - IQ
0D8702 - IQ
0D8ED2 - SOI
0D9AE6 - Torque Limiter
0D9B46 - Torque Limiter
0D9B8E - Torque Limiter
0D9BB8 - Torque Limiter 1 Gear
0D9BE2 - Torque Limiter 2 Gear
0D9C0C - Torque Limiter 3 Gear
0D9C36 - Torque Limiter, 4 Gear
0D9C60 - Torque Limiter 5 Gear
0D9C8A - Torque Limiter 6 Gear
0D9CB4 - Torque Limiter Rear Gear
0DA57E - IQ Limiter
0DA716 - IQ Limiter
0DA958 - IQ Limiter
0DAAA6 - IQ Limiter
0DADFE - IQ Limiter
0DC66C - SOI
0DCAF4 - SOI
0DCF7C - SOI
0DD404 - SOI
0DD648 - SOI
0DD88C-
0DDAD0-
0E00F8 - SOI
0E033C - SOI
0E0814-
0E109E-
0E9D62 - Duration
0EAA8A - IQ Limiter f[P_Rail]
0EC8CC - an overboost
0ECC88 - an overboost
0ED044 - an overboost
0ED288 - an overboost
0ED8BE - an overboost
0EDB02 - an overboost
0EE056 - Turbo
0EE298 - Turbo
0EE4DE - Turbo
0EE722 - Turbo
0EE962 - Turbo Limiter
0EF2A6 - an overboost
0EFBE4 - Turbo
0EFE10 - Turbo Limiter
0F42BC - IQ Limiter
0F4DB8 - Rail Limiter
0F525E - Conversion [mm3/mm3/s]
0F5582 - Rail Limiter
0F56C8 - Rail
0F5AFA - Rail
0F61C6 - Rail
0F67F8 - Rail Limiter
0F68AA - Rail Limiter
0F6900 - Rail Limiter

munro
unfortunately, and sorry if I repeat myself, I can't download anything so I can't give you confirmation of everything..but judging by the number and by the address maps in the sequence you have already managed to find nearly all of you are missing the single-bit rail limiter single bit boost limiter(in reality it is only one), some single-bit torque limiter and iq limiter, and then you pretty much see everything....
your car is fitted with the swirl true? find the map and azzarala as on the mjet fiat, the engine will thank you for it..
if you then delete physically the swirl from the manifold the engine can't make more that giovarne..

munro
I found a file ori similar to yours and I have corrected some of the addresses I hope you can help...
0C3EF0 - Driver Wish OK
0C4068 - Driver Wish OK
0C41EE - I never understood what it's for..

0C4AA8 - IQ Limiter f(Maf) is not a iq limiter but it is
the map calculation that the ecu uses to relate the air "weighted" according to the rpm and iq
through the maf the output of this map are kg/h on the 330/335d is the most high, for obvious reasons..
the real iq limiter in the maf function is to 0C4906..

0C558E - EGR OK
0C5A16 - EGR OK
0C5EDE - EGR OK
0C6118 - EGR OK
0C635C - EGR OK
0C65A4 - EGR OK
0C8FE8 - Panettone EGR
0C904E - Panettone EGR at these 2 addresses correspond
the start of the axis of the map hysteresis to the addresses to be reset
begin to 0C900A and 0C9070
0D0692 - IQ Limiter is a limiter, don't touch it absolutely is a map
of the entire calculation that the ecu uses for several sensitive controls(vgt,lambda,etc..)
0D0F62 - as above do not touch the map calculation efficiency ratio expansion-exhaust gas turbocharger
0D359E - Torque Limiter the exact start is 0C359A (21X1)
0D3CDE - Torque Limiter OK you skipped 0D3D30..
0D3D84 - Torque Limiter OK
0D3DDA - Torque Limiter OK
0D3E2C - Torque Limiter OK
0D3E70 - Torque Limiter limits the torque when the system is faulty, you can not even touch it..
0D3EB0 - Torque Limiter OK
0D403E - IQ Limiter OK
0D40BE - IQ Limiter OK in the speed function
0D42A2 - IQ Limiter OK
0D44D4 - IQ Limiter OK
0D5BB0 - SOI no is a map with lambda
0D5DF4 - SOI as above..
0D6280 - Lambda ok
0D64C4 - Lambda ok
0D6708 - Lambda ok
0D6B90 - Lambda ok
0D6DD4 - Lambda ok
0D725C - Lambda ok
0D74A0 - Lambda ok
0D7C1E - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D7E34 - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D7FDE - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D821E - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D84BE - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D8702 - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D8ED2 - SOI ok
0D9AE6 - Torque Limiter exact start is 0D9AFE
0D9B46 - Torque Limiter OK
0D9B8E - Torque Limiter OK
0D9BB8 - Torque Limiter 1 Gear OK
0D9BE2 - Torque Limiter 2 Gear OK
0D9C0C - Torque Limiter 3 Gear OK
0D9C36 - Torque Limiter 4 Gear OK
0D9C60 - Torque Limiter 5 Gear OK
0D9C8A - Torque Limiter 6 Gear OK
0D9CB4 - Torque Limiter, the Back Gear OK
0DA57E - IQ Limiter I don't know what is...
0DA716 - IQ Limiter is not a iq limiter this map determines the value of air mass of low iq



for the moment acontenti of this then I can just tell you the rest..

alxcrs
Thanks Munro, now I update the list with your corrections, and also began to prepare a guide accompanied by pictures in order to be useful to all the novice like me...

alxcrs
But about closing the egr, I reset the panettone low and elongated with a decimal value of 550 and 400, which follow immediately after the areas that you have indicated you...
I thought that it was so close in this ecu!

munro
the hysteresis are 16X1 and then you have to clear 16 "lengths" from the address that I gave then, however, the time is good for closing the egr if you don't want to stay in scervellarti...

alxcrs
If I keep account of 16 points from the address that I have indicated, do it again in those areas that I have reset I... likely that you need to reset entrambe9780

munro
alx I can't see anything unfortunately but you can try...to reset the "16 lunqhezze", or everything and try...
however, in summary ecoo here:
0C3EF0 - Driver Wish OK
0C4068 - Driver Wish OK
0C41EE - I never understood what it's for..

0C4AA8 - IQ Limiter f(Maf) is not a iq limiter but it is
the map calculation that the ecu uses to relate the air "weighted" according to the rpm and iq
through the maf the output of this map are kg/h on the 330/335d is the most high, for obvious reasons..
the real iq limiter in the maf function is to 0C4906..

0C558E - EGR OK
0C5A16 - EGR OK
0C5EDE - EGR OK
0C6118 - EGR OK
0C635C - EGR OK
0C65A4 - EGR OK
0C8FE8 - Panettone EGR
0C904E - Panettone EGR at these 2 addresses correspond
the start of the axis of the map hysteresis to the addresses to be reset
begin to 0C900A and 0C9070
0D0692 - IQ Limiter is a limiter, don't touch it absolutely is a map
of the entire calculation that the ecu uses for several sensitive controls(vgt,lambda,etc..)
0D0F62 - as above do not touch the map calculation efficiency ratio expansion-exhaust gas turbocharger
0D359E - Torque Limiter the exact start is 0C359A (21X1)
0D3CDE - Torque Limiter OK you skipped 0D3D30..
0D3D84 - Torque Limiter OK
0D3DDA - Torque Limiter OK
0D3E2C - Torque Limiter OK
0D3E70 - Torque Limiter limits the torque when the system is faulty, you can not even touch it..
0D3EB0 - Torque Limiter OK
0D403E - IQ Limiter OK
0D40BE - IQ Limiter OK in the speed function
0D42A2 - IQ Limiter OK
0D44D4 - IQ Limiter OK
0D5BB0 - SOI no is a map with lambda
0D5DF4 - SOI as above..
0D6280 - Lambda ok
0D64C4 - Lambda ok
0D6708 - Lambda ok
0D6B90 - Lambda ok
0D6DD4 - Lambda ok
0D725C - Lambda ok
0D74A0 - Lambda ok
0D7C1E - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D7E34 - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D7FDE - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D821E - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D84BE - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D8702 - IQ conversion nm>iq
0D8ED2 - SOI ok
0D9AE6 - Torque Limiter exact start is 0D9AFE
0D9B46 - Torque Limiter OK
0D9B8E - Torque Limiter OK
0D9BB8 - Torque Limiter 1 Gear OK
0D9BE2 - Torque Limiter 2 Gear OK
0D9C0C - Torque Limiter 3 Gear OK
0D9C36 - Torque Limiter 4 Gear OK
0D9C60 - Torque Limiter 5 Gear OK
0D9C8A - Torque Limiter 6 Gear OK
0D9CB4 - Torque Limiter, the Back Gear OK
0DA57E - IQ Limiter I don't know what is...
0DA716 - IQ Limiter is not a iq limiter this map determines the value of air mass of low iq
0DA958 - IQ Limiter not a limiter is a correction of the duty cycle for the valves swirl
0DAAA6 - IQ Limiter wrong map swirl in regeneration
0DADFE - IQ Limiter this is the map in the game real bring it all to 0
and the swirl will always remain open
0DC66C - SOI OK
0DCAF4 - SOI OK
0DCF7C - SOI OK
0DD404 - SOI OK
0DD648 - SOI OK
0DD88C - maps calculation I think the damos says nothing
0DDAD0 - as above
0E00F8 - SOI maps correction to the soi in function intake air temperature
0E033C - SOI maps correction to the soi in function intake air temperature
0E0814 - base map for the correction soi as a function of the temp engine
0E109E - soi in regeneration
0E9D62 - Duration ok
0EAA8A - IQ Limiter f[P_Rail] not the tap is a map of the calculation is the correction
rail pressure as a function of the engine temperature
0EC8CC - an overboost vgt duty cycle
0ECC88 - an overboost vgt duty cycle
0ED044 - an overboost vgt duty cycle
0ED288 - an overboost vgt duty cycle
0ED8BE - an overboost vgt duty cycle
0EDB02 - an overboost vgt duty cycle
0EE056 - Turbo ok
0EE298 - Turbo ok
0EE4DE - Turbo ok
0EE722 - Turbo ok
0EE962 - Turbo Limiter ok
0EF2A6 - an overboost vgt controll map
0EFBE4 - Turbo press in regeneration
0EFE10 - Turbo Limiter OK
0F42BC - IQ Limiter no this map is the drivers wish reverse
serves for the interpolation of the requested dw main
0F4DB8 - Rail Limiter this is a map that the ecu uses both as a limiter rail
and as a setting for the duty cycle of the PCV valve
for the adjustment of the press rail(if you don't adapt, you'll never have the press you want)
0F525E - Conversion [mm3/mm3/s]map pilot for pressure regulating and metering of diesel
the output is in mm3/second
0F5582 - Rail Limiter this is a map that the ecu uses both as a limiter rail
and as a setting for the duty cycle of the PCV valve
for the adjustment of the press rail
0F56C8 - Rail regeneration
0F5AFA - Rail ok
0F61C6 - Rail ok
0F67F8 - Rail Limiter OK depending on the temp of diesel
0F68AA - Rail Limiter OK depending on the temp motor
0F6900 - Rail Limiter OF6902 for the accuracy and the rail limiter for low iq


however, you've forgotten some things...
es 0D3B20, and a map of 9X9 that limits the pedal and then the torque as a function of the press
atmospheric and then there is 0D3BE2 that is a speed limit as a function of the speed precisely
and the temp engine only this is a map of the protection from overheating since
the axis of the temp motor part 105°C...titanium only changes the axis of this map but the car
sara, however, limited to 230 from other limiters...I speak from experience...
also you forgot 0D373C which is a map of "internal friction" that subtracts the torque in the ecu in function
the temp and engine rpm..
then if you want to shoot to the limiter just tap 0C8FD4 and OC8FD8 abbasandoli from 6000 rpm to 5200, more or less, and you will have
the pop corn to the drain...then there is 0C8FE0 and 0F4FE0 that are limiters individual iq set at 100 mm3 if you want more than
pass these quantity you have to moddarli
in addition, you have 0e9934 a map 6x5 that restricts diesel fuel depending on the temp motor
to 0EEB66 find the single bit of restriction to the turbo and 0F4F7A and 0F4FE6 find the areas of the individual limiting press rail
if you have bisogon of another, give me a whistle...
hello

alxcrs
Thank you, Munro... in these days I prepare a step2 beautiful power and the place so, take a look.... I'd like to have your own opinion...

munro
if you unostep beautiful power surely you'll get to 230 in a heartbeat but not ruiscirai to overcome them because of the limiters...
if you need to delete them, just ask..unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to see your work...

alxcrs

munro
ask I don't have problems...
but if I'm not mistaken for the marelli there is already a tread open snocciolava in-depth this ecu..

alxcrs
You are right, in fact I read and re-read several times to study the ecu...
But I' wanted to do with the Marelli, the same work that I am preparing with this Bosch to make it available to all users (always with the consenzo of the admin), and with the help of an expert like you... The only think I could do it, but incomplete...

Errecinque
these days I prepare a step2 beautiful power

hi and first, congratulations for your dedication, out of pure curiosity, you managed to write it via serial port while keeping the tension high as recommended, or you're armed with a bdm ?

alxcrs
Hello Errecinque, I have written it in serial by using a stabilized power supply modified that guarantees me 14V and a current absorption maximum of 200W...
Every time I cross my fingers, cut the plug radiator fan and everything is running smoothly in about 3min of writing, even if you enable the pump to the low pressure in the tank.

alxcrs
You know, up to how many mm3 of fuel can I go with the turbine golds...?

munro
04-11-2015, 14:29
You know, up to how many mm3 of fuel can I go with the turbine golds...?
your injection times are calculated by bmw up to 85mm3...
if you want to go beyond you have to rescale the break point and re-calculating all the time for how much you want to inject with the new scaling time
I'm on a few car-like I got to inject 100mm3 with 1.8 to press turbo...
only that if as already said your mount turbo mitsubishi after a bit you hear him whistle a bit too, but nothing more..they are sturdy enough...

alxcrs
Actually I would like to get at least 100/105mm3.... then scale the axis of the rail, at least up to 1700Bar and IQ at least up to 100mm3.
My doubt is how do I calcolarmi times if I do not know the characteristics of the injectors...?

munro
tell me the codes for the injectors, and see if I can make you to know something about the actual flow of the injectors..
however, if you do not want to stay to make too many calculations add 17.7%(85mm3+17.7%=100,045mm3) more or less on the injection time and inject as much as you want...
logically if you increase the rail(you have seen the increase in this proportion of the increase change.
in the forum you can find the formula on the calculation of the times/press rail... if you don't find I'll help you gladly...

alxcrs
Then, we proceed by small steps...:

- Maps conversion Nm>IQ
Moddate all up to 100mm3

- Maps the pedal
Increased in order to have a request of 500Nm at 2500Rpm

- Maps torque limiters
Increased in order to have 500Nm from 2250 to 3500Rpm

- Limiters IQ
Increased up to 100mm3

franco75
The maps of the conversion up to 100mm3, the riscali with the Breakpoint of the pair, or make a map "cheated"?

alxcrs
Now I have only incremented the maps up to 100mm3, but it's all still in progress... account, however, rescale the break of the couple (which currently stop at 450) even if they are undecided...

franco75
I asked why is it useless that fixed the limtatore 500 nm then if li is limited to 450, inietterai always 100 mm3), but for the ecu, you will always have 450 nm of torque, I don't know if this can affect in any management of the ecu.

alxcrs
Go ahead..:

- Maps-rail
Increased up to 1750Bar

- Limiters rail
Set to 1800Bar

- Injection time
Them I have moddati as a percentage, for the accuracy, up to a maximum of 15%

- Map turbo
Flow rates up to 2800mBar absolute

- Surge turbo
Up to 2850mBar absolute

- The Map In The Game
Fully open


I have a couple of doubts...
- as said to Franco, should I touch up the break, or leave that deception....
- should I give it at least a degree of advance in the mid-range (although I think that with 100mm3 there is the need)...
- I noticed that this machine works on average with a lambda of 1.35 (equivalent to one stechio 19.6), can be enough to make it work cun a lambda of 1.25, and then a ratio of 18.1

alxcrs
So as it is in this moment, she knows that to reach 450Nm should inject 100mm3, the 500Nm (if ever we can get) are accordingly...
But it is the first time that I try to make a map, we say informed, for this one I have no doubt that should actually climb up that break

franco75
If they tax you need to take the necessary steps to take 500nm, are you sure the stoichiometric ratio?
To get to inject 100 mm3 with 18 of stoichiometric, you should have a flow rate measured by the mass air flow sensor 1450.
The mass air flow sensor can't read them?

alxcrs
Small update...:

- Adjusted the breakpoints for the maps and conversion Nm>IQ up to 500Nm
- Adjusted the breakpoints of the map injection times up to 100mm3
- Adjusted the breakpoints of the maps rail pressure up to 100mm3

franco75
the adjustment of the breakpoint of the rail pressure that the benefits that can bring? I don't do it ever, I don't see the reason.
as ever you have considered it appropriate to do so?

alxcrs
Honestly I believed that to be truly informed I had to adapt the rail...!

franco75
remains informed, uses the latest curve.
unless you want different pressures for 80 and 100 you could leave it with the bp original

munro
the requested maf is limited by a bit in the ecu to 1270mg if I remember correctly, I should double check...if I'm not mistaken, if a corresponding bit in the diagnostic you will see a little more of that quantity of air...
however, if you want to inject 100mm3 you have to work at lambda 1(1270mg/14,5=87,5 mg/0,85=103mm3
I'm on some of the files are also been reduced to 0.6 lambda...

munro
alxcrs...I wanted to ask which tool to use to log the car?

alxcrs
Use a kessV2 clone...

A couple of questions..
- I'm adapting a number of axes of torque, the IQ, and the rail with the new values.... is that okay or no?
- Torque limiters, once arrived at 500Nm, should I get them to team up at the end?
- In the same way with the pedal, I have to set it with the value max of 500Nm up to the end?

franco75
1. If you adapt the values in the map do it right

3. As above

alxcrs
A ****llo theoretical with this map I have a situation...:

3500Rpm - 219cv(theoretical) - 190cv(considering a loss of 13%)
4000Rpm - 244cv(theoretical) - 212cv(considering a loss of 13%)
4200Rpm - 246cv(theoretical) - 214cv(considering a loss of 13%)

...in theory....!!!!

Errecinque
Sorry....I'd like to know the formula from which derived the cv theory. Thanks

alxcrs
Theoretical in the sense that they are those due to the required torque in the map to which we subtract mechanical losses that usually are about 13%.


Anyway, new update...
- maps lambda clipped to a maximum value of 1.2...


Certainly, as mentioned by Munro, should be put for the whole of 1, and also less, but because I fear that smoke like a ferry I would like to first do a test like this.

alxcrs
X Munro... I'm sorry, I had read read the the place to log in...
Anyway, currently I have a self-diagnosis Delphi, as soon as I can comprero' the cable inpa... Already I have seen a couple!

munro
X Munro... I'm sorry, I had read read the the place to log in...
Anyway, currently I have a self-diagnosis Delphi, as soon as I can comprero' the cable inpa... Already I have seen a couple!
inpa say...and how good it is? the bmw are a bit steep to be logged....I have heard good things about the bavarian tech but I don't have but seen one in action..
anyway back to the speech map the request from the pedal should be higher than 500nm of the lim couple, and from the nm>iq, otherwise the ecu has nothing with which to interpolate the data...

munro
Sorry....I'd like to know the formula from which derived the cv theory. Thanks
In the diesel the amount of fuel injected determines how closely the amount of power produced (up to a certain limit anyway).
We can roughly estimate the amount of torque that can be produced by injecting, for example, 1.5 mg x cylinder and then by injecting 60 mg / stroke in a 4-cylinder engine that gives as a result about 1,5 * 4 * 60 = 360 Nm of maximum torque.
Now we can calculate the power of calculation from the pair can be done with the formula:
Power (hp) = (Torque (Nm) * rpm / 7121.
By injecting 60 mg / stroke at 4000 rpm 360 * 4000/7121 = 202 HP.
this, of course, in theory, because the formula does not take into account many other variables...

munro
I correct myself and 1.5 are not mg injected but it is a number of equivalence as a function of the torque estimated to be produced from a cylinder..
the calculation remains almost identical anyway...

alxcrs
Inpa and the diagnosis official bmw until 2008, after they have changed the system...
For the formula, and the one that I used I also.... I have made a spreadsheet that gives me a graph of torque and power... always theoretical

alxcrs
Hello guys, sorry for these days of absence, but work commitments and the tests that I am doing on this ecu are keeping me away... by the way, can anyone tell me if this ecu there are limits to the scriptures...?

munro
no limit go quiet....
they only have an internal counter...
once it gets to 255 it stops and does not count the most..
but you can continue to write quietly..