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dangy
30-04-2015, 09:00
Hi to all,
I write this thread to ask you some advice or know if you even to you ? gi? happened something similar.
Therefore, I have a Monster of 2004, with the original control unit Marelli IAW5AMHW010 that occasionally I connect via VAGCOM and JPDiag / IAWDiag to check for any errors, verify that everything is ok, reset the TPS...
I had an opportunity to purchase a very good price for a ecu Ducati Performance Marelli IAW59MHW010 with the unique "defect" was that it was already? coded to the previous motion on which it was mounted. I said, well, let us take it from the same time c'? then the way to scodificarla.
I then purchased a cable MPPS v13.02 clone (white transparent) with which I read my beautiful map Ducati Performance 256-KB, map which I then fed to Immo Universal Decoding so riverginare the immo.
With a hex editor to verify that the IUD had indeed changed something in the map, cos? all load resume MPPS, and I'm going to flash the ecu Ducati Performance directly on the bike. Do not recalculate the checksum because, not having changed anything on the engine map, it should not be necessary.
And here starts the problem: MPPS writes without errors, the map in 1 minute and 15 seconds and at the end she says that writing ? successful, I turn the key but nothing, immo activated yet and the bike will not start. I try again to flash, nothing. I try with the IUD, instead? the revirgin, to disable the immo of the whole and to riflashare, nothing yet. I'll also try a different speed? writing, MPPS always writes correctly (even if it takes always the same time also to speed? different), but the immo is always active and the bike will not start.
At this point I do a check: after I flashed for the umpteenth time the DP ecu, I try both with MPPS with IAWReader to re-read the ecu just flashata and I discover (by means of a binary comparator) that the map stored on the ECU ? still the one that was originally when I bought the ecu, then all the scriptures made by me with MPPS (never a mistake, operations are always performed correctly, at least according to the software MPPS) it was as if it had never been made.

There ? ever happened to you?
Am I wrong something in writing (maybe it takes a special caveat that I do not know), or simply ? the MPPS cable that does not work? In this case, for? how ? may MPPS give me "writing correctly executed" when it writes a beloved??

Hello and thanks to all of you!

cinqueturbo
30-04-2015, 12:27
To read the part of the Eeprom that contains data related to the code you have to read it in the Boot..
serial read only map the engine management..

dangy
02-05-2015, 00:18
Thanks CinqueTurbo!
I was convinced that the problem was only in writing, from your message I understand that ? gi? upstream in the reading phase, right?

For? sorry, I don't understand a thing. I'm just a noob... Therefore, the image of the ECU MPPS reading to me and save me ? 256 KB, the cio? as far as I know ? just the correct size that should have a map of the Marelli 59M: we have as you say that the map that I read it ? correct (or ? incomplete) why? read directly on the bike and not in the boot. OK, I for? during my tests I have, however, changed with the IUD that image read cos? and then I tried to rewrite it with MPPS several times, always directly on the bike: why, after having written the map if I try, for confirmation, read the ECU, I discover that in reality? not ? written anything, and I always find the original map? I would have rather waited, according to your explanation, which, however, would not have solved the problem immo as upstream had changed with the IUD a map, read bad, but at least that map changed me, I would have had to find written in the ECU at the end of my tests, no? Instead nothing, after each write MPPS says the operation completed successfully but the ECU I am always the original map.

For case, in addition to the reading, the writing must be done in the boot to take place correctly?

I don't know if I managed to explain my doubt...
Thank you and good weekend!

ugoboss
02-05-2015, 07:19
if you do the reading in the boot you need to do the writing, if the law normally you write it also, in every case those all mpps cable is not worth anything.

bimmer
02-05-2015, 09:59
the read and write in boot recalls the checksum

dangy
06-05-2015, 21:55
*ugoboss: thanks ugoboss, you're right, I'm convincing myself that at the end of the fair this MPPS clone that I bought quality is not that great, for? honestly when I went to purchase a cable that would allow me to flash my ECU or not I wanted to get one for 100 euros, and broken to use it s? and no a couple of times. Then ? go as ? gone and now, I find this MPPS v13.02 that is giving me some scratch****. Reading on the forum before buying it, I knew that he would be able to read and write directly and without the boot, and instead... Directly from the bike, he can read without problems, but apparently is not able to write as directly on the bike. Cos? probably will have to? read and write on boot to see if I can work around this strange problem.

*bimmer: thanks bimmer, but at this point, take another domandone in the hope that it will succeed/you can answer me please: I only know conceptually and in broad strokes what it means to read and write in boot mode. But in practice, how do I put my ECU (Marelli IAW59MHW010 ) in boot mode?? You can do in any way with the control unit mounted on the bike or do I need to get the wiring in order to operate a tour?

Hello and good evening!

blackwolf76
06-05-2015, 23:25
Mpps 13 ? one of the tools less reliable around... ? much more? stable the V5, even if we are talking about anyway of clones.

That cebntralina in the boot, the faretsi safely even with a cock 1260, even if currently it's better a V54...

dangy
16-05-2015, 17:37
Hello guys and thanks for your answers, sorry for the wait but I have been away for a week for work.
Thanks Blackwolf for your advice, I had read that the MPPS v13 was not that great, which was better than the v12 or precisely, the v5, then when I bought it on the bay I found only one and I said to myself, let's try the same and see how it goes...
Apart from this, how do you read and write to my ECU in boot mode with the v13? Always if you can?... You can do in any way with the ecu mounted, or do I need to get the wiring to work the counter?
Thanks and good weekend to all!

maurof650
27-05-2015, 22:59
............*****and do you read and write my ECU in boot mode with the v13? Always if you can?... You can do in any way with the ecu mounted, or do I need to get the wiring in order to operate a tour?................

In fact, you can not, with MPPS with the other.
What can you do ? to change the bit to the right (from 01 to 00 to disable the immbilizer. In this regard, c'? some discussion on the forum.

jah83
we can do the boot mod on with magnetti with mpps ?

dangy
Thanks Maurof650,