Step By Step the Fiat Bravo 1.9 Mjtd 120Cv

[ecuboost]

hi, as the title suggests I have decided to change qst detailed step-by-step(tranq there seccher? each map) I only changed the torque in standard conditions, someone I can? say if I made it in the correct way?
I decided to stop at 11% even if it was recommended to me, up to 15%, but I don't want to strain anything, indeed, if ? done correct abbasser? the increments.

[msport (exil77grande)]

to start can' go', but instead of doing as you did with increments of 5%-7%-9%-9%-10%-10,5%-11% you could do 6%-7%-8%-9%-10%-11%-12%.

[alfajtd]

the test, as you have said, but on all 4 maps of torque required.
then he begins to take note also of the map turbo...

[ecuboost]

the test, as you have said, but on all 4 maps of torque required.
then he begins to take note also of the map turbo...
The other maps the request torque you say those x-function sport? The car nn qst function, but nn c'? no way to activate it? According to me, has anyone studied how to activate it

[msport (exil77grande)]

The other maps the request torque you say those x-function sport? The car nn qst function, but nn c'? no way to activate it? According to me, has anyone studied how to activate it

in practice, those would be the other maps arricchimeto acceleration and then holes are all the same.

[ecuboost]

they all say that you have to adapt the torque limiter, the changes made to the required torque, but as you have to adapt them in order to not make it go into recovery, I have to give the same gains, or should I increase the values(in absolute) of the limiter + senior to those of the required torque?

[alfajtd]

in recovery there you go....

[ecuboost]

in recovery there you go....

then the limiter torque, I can leave the com'??
the surge torque of the gear mod them?

[alfajtd]

if you leave him, com'? erogher? the max torque is equal to the original

those of gear you don't need to touch them.

[ecuboost]

if you leave him, com'? erogher? the max torque is equal to the original

those of gear you don't need to touch them.
I'm not understanding, if I leave it in practice ? as if I have not changed the other?so I have to mod necessarily?

[alfajtd]

in principle ? cos?...
therefore, if you want torque and hp you have to modify it appropriately to your taste, and delivery.
If you have physical limitations that are clutch, flywheel , gearbox...

[ecuboost]

how much and where you advise me to intervene? considering that I fly almost to the fruit, I would be interested to shove under the 2000 third and fourth

[alfajtd]

right where the flywheel ? pi? solicited...

as you have to feel like I'm at the point you...

where in the rpm that you want to increase...

[ecuboost]

in fact, own them, anyway if you do 2% from 1500 constants?

[ecuboost]

as I go? ;)

[msport (exil77grande)]

in fact, own them, anyway if you do 2% from 1500 constants?

the 2% does not feel right,from a 15% to 1500 rpm,for the rest is ok, but in the map, the required torque for the features and the sport to have mistaken the increments in which you had to give 11-12% and I also wanted to understand why let the last break ori where ecm marks 5000 rpm,moddalo as well.

[ecuboost]

thanks for telling me where I was wrong I will? distracted, anyway, the 5000 let them ori why? not interested me, but now I have them mod as well, you advise me to mod the rail or not?
in the turbo pressure of the values that I see on the ecm are the bars?

[magi1984]

are millibars! If you see 2000 means a bar of atmospheric pressure pi? a bar of turbo pressure. Yes, edit well as the rail pressure and the limiter

[ecuboost]

are millibars! If you see 2000 means a bar of atmospheric pressure pi? a bar of turbo pressure. Yes, edit well as the rail pressure and the limiter
obvious millibars, could not be 2000 bar.
the axes of the rail mm^3/cyc that I see? increase always starting from 1500 rpm but from what y?

[ecuboost]

another step

[magi1984]

not bad, congratulations
I would have dared to pi? in the limiter of maximum torque, for me 13% ? little, I would have given 18 or 20%
ditto in the maps with maximum torque of the second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth gear

[giarras]

it too appears a little limiter maximum torque, the tip that you gave the magi okay...anyway, you're going well continues cos

[ecuboost]

honestly, my goal was not to exaggerate anything, as I said above I have the flywheel, almost to the fruit...? if you tell me that 13 is not even feel the difference I feel some points in the +, what other maps would you recommend for me to mod(something soft)? quantity? fuel injected and the injection time?for? I would not consume so much

[ecuboost]

sorry I was looking at the values of the pair of the gears, but I can increase only the first, the next they are already? at the bottom of the stairs and gives me the max value to 1000

[Chris156]

Hello, I can not see your files, but you can give safely up to 20-25% of diesel more.. but to be given by certain maps not conventional..
Greetings.

[ecuboost]

the maps are not conventional are out of the driver? as ever, I can't increase the torque of the gears?

[magi1984]

if the value of the couple ? gi? to the maximum just, don't touch them and leave them so.
I told you that was incremented but I haven't looked if the value was at the maximum or not

PS: I do not answer to PM for help, we have the forum to talk about these things

[ecuboost]

ok, then I try the map cos? how increased a p? the lim couple, or do I need to increase the x-force in the diesel fuel?

[magi1984]

increases the torque limiter and try it

[Chris156]

increase the torque limiter or the pedal is not used to anything.. the earn ? of a few mm3, which are ridiculously low. if you unlock the various limiters, which are outside of the drive, you can manage all from the latter.
Otherwise change the timing of the injection and you will see that already? so you'll have a acceptable.. all of this is done with knowledge of the facts, knowing how to inject from the mother house and suitably modifying the payments if needed.
Just arriver? messages useful to download the file do you give? a look at, but unfortunately I don't go online often on the forum and I don't know what is going to happen!!!
Greetings to all.

[ecuboost]

does anyone recognize qst curve, should be of concern to the rail

[alfajtd]

you should enlarge it...

[ecuboost]

nn I, k,image ? great x? when I attach that ? the result, anyway, today I tried the map, something you feel x? only regime in the middle, then you hear in the high ke back ori, cos? in the netherlands, the machine first opened at 2200 rpm now 2, we say ke I expected more?, instead, I don't know whether it was a coincidence, but it can be ke consumes less? The instantaneous power gave me 30km/l, where before it was 18, x? it seems to me impossible sar? a coincidence

[dvdtuning]

does anyone recognize qst curve, should be of concern to the rail

It is not a map of the rail to see her...surely ? too small the image, but it seems to me the management of an overboost...

[alfajtd]

No No ? an overboost... ? another thing...
You can attach using imagestack or other...

[msport (exil77grande)]

sorry if placed in the map or in the event you specify whether it's your gold and us addresses is not better?

[ecuboost]

in my ori from 1CC130 to 1CC18A and 1CC1C0 to 1CC232
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you can see both even if only 1 ? selected

[ecuboost]

you can't help me in qst? if you can't, thanks all the same, you have helped me enough....

[Chris156]

unfortunately asking for help of this kind, and waiting for answers ? a difficult choice on your part..
However, the one ? a limiter diesel.

[ecuboost]

I imagined that I was that too much to ask for? I don't understand why? they all say that they want to share, etc....'s obvious that everyone does not tell the secrets of the trade for? I don't think that information is a trick of the trade, or am I wrong?

[msport (exil77grande)]

I imagined that I was that too much to ask for? I don't understand why? they all say that they want to share, etc....'s obvious that everyone does not tell the secrets of the trade for? I don't think that information is a trick of the trade, or am I wrong?

Andrea this is not not to want to help or not to share,the fact is that you have to understand that everyone has a job, and for the most part family and then saw that you asked yesterday for help on that screen waiting for a girl,however as you have said, and the imitator diesel,I want to ask you why? rims messed with the maps out of the driver when the maps that you have in bella vista but changed in the correct way, you can already going strong then all the rest is just to refine.

[cicciogsr]

unfortunately asking for help of this kind, and waiting for answers ? a difficult choice on your part..
However, the one ? a limiter diesel.

quoto ? a lim diesel... I advise you to first understand the maps fondamanentali and then moving on to concepts more? challenging... maybe you saw it touched somewhere and you ? coming the curiosity? of to ask?

[alfajtd]

since you're not in possession of a2l or conversion factors, you do not have references for that map.
Therefore we do not recommend changing it.

As for the other I join too, by tapping in the appropriate way the maps that you know you will be able to obtain a satisfactory result.

[ecuboost]

I have written that perhaps you could not help me why? a user told me that was wondering too, only for qst, I know that everyone has a life.
I was curious about that map, why? in a driver for ecm-6.something given to me on a user, there was that map.
I tried tapping on the maps of the driver by following the advice that you gave me but I have not achieved much, for qst, I decided to check out as well as

[magi1984]

if you touch the maps in the drivers did not get much then increases the percentage of increase that you have given in the maps of the diesel
if the car starts to smoke, then you have given too much fuel compared to the air mass, then the games with the map of the turbo by raising finch? the car doesn't smoke more?
of course, everything with a logical, cio? if you gave 0.2 bar in pi? in the map of the turbo you are already? to the limit and then not go any further with the map and lowers the diesel

[ecuboost]

0k thanks I had not given diesel why? someone advises him not to, prover? cos? thanks a lot for the help, here we are really different from the other forum, do you have any advice on how to give the diesel, or do a constant percentage?I'm trying to make it in proportion to the increases which I have given to the turbo.

[msport (exil77grande)]

I have written that perhaps you could not help me why? a user told me that was wondering too, only for qst, I know that everyone has a life.
I was curious about that map, why? in a driver for ecm-6.something given to me on a user, there was that map.
I tried tapping on the maps of the driver by following the advice that you gave me but I have not achieved much, for qst, I decided to check out as well as


Believe me that with only the maps of the driver that the car can go really strong.

[ecuboost]

ll driver wish nn c'? among the drivers for the titanium, but I found it in one of the other drivers, but how do I calculate the amount? injected?

[ecuboost]

then to me have done a great favour, xke gave me a driver that is hand made where c'? qst the map, from where should I start knowing x qst bk. X first thing, what are they?

[ecuboost]

then andrew if you view any map in 3d the "sides of the cube" of the map are the famous axes x-y-z if you see a 2d map you'll see that in the first map the true and right you will find the dell curve attacked to it at times very great, which indicate the x-y axes, which are also called break....? a p? difficult to explain in words, much easier with pictures post a screen of a map that you know so that even others more experienced than me I believe will help you...

We can use the screen if I already? posted, at the moment I can put others on this site are with the smart

[ecuboost]

if nn ? possible we refer everything to tomorrow, you have me already? helped enough, I know ke qst discussion will be? useful to the whole forum, and my car will be? the guinea pig :-)

[ecuboost]

should be those 2 teeth of the saw before the map?
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[ecuboost]

but from these position breakpoint understand only the "measures"?

[ecuboost]

and how? c'? if we see that ? a map 16x16 how do we know what it is?

[ecuboost]

this I understand, but suppose we take the map out of the driver, we see all the values that you have mentioned, but we do not know in this way, if it is lim torque, the rail or the other, I don't know if I was clear

[ecuboost]

hehe andrea, the difficulty increased ? just this, however a great line you can? say that if on-axis to find 13500 I don't think they can be rounds, but it will be? maybe the press rail the fact ? that you should look at the single axis, but you must desire to look at all three in order to get an idea of what it could be then for the most incomprehensible, at least in the values reported there are the damos for? personally I have never had...
now, going back on our steps, to calculate how much an injection-I have to find this DW and see what values I have in the BP? right?

[magi1984]

if it can? help, map nm on iq in ecm titanium drivers, where present, is called a "Deal? fuel injected"

[lupak]

Excuse the magi, on my driver does not c'? this item could you give me the name of a file ori where to look for it and watch the curve ?

[ecuboost]

if it can? help, map nm on iq in ecm titanium drivers, where present, is called a "Deal? fuel injected"
I on the ecm I have it for? not ? nm to iq

[frantik3]

it's up to you what the ecm tells you and not the lim couple different gears that the titanium does not ori the wrong change to all for what you have in the driver and you will be strong!!!!

[magi1984]

[lupak]

Thanks magi1984, I have seen your file and in edc15c2 of my car I found a curve similar to the address 062078 immediately after the map, egr, do you think this could be ? only that I don't have the driver and I don't see the references of the axes there are the first of this map.
The map ? 9x10.

[Chris156]

tap the map in the image ? for nothing risky(I speak of that which I can see, the others are not authorized), on the contrary....but in addition to that you have to touch each other..
the edit maps usual go to offset the calculations of the mother house(the cio? injection time etc)
Unfortunately I have already said what you need or you convienbe to do.. the choice is up to you.
Good continuation, Christian.

[ecuboost]

tap the map in the image ? for nothing risky(I speak of that which I can see, the others are not authorized), on the contrary....but in addition to that you have to touch each other..
the edit maps usual go to offset the calculations of the mother house(the cio? injection time etc)
Unfortunately I have already said what you need or you convienbe to do.. the choice is up to you.
Good continuation, Christian.
I know that as maps to you ? best, for? I want to learn, if I sell the map, you are not there, I conclude, nothing, I prefer to spend the same money or + to take a course, but I have seen maps made payment from computers online forum, do not use your method(which I think is the one to do the calculations the ecu), and then if they are professionals, and they do so? and be good to all, and thinks for me is that I'm starting now, but if you have the spirit of the forum to give an example of how you would do the car in question, or if the others agree, you pay for the map(not even for my car, I take one at random) and we study all together

[msport (exil77grande)]

I know that as maps to you ? best, for? I want to learn, if I sell the map, you are not there, I conclude, nothing, I prefer to spend the same money or + to take a course, but I have seen maps made payment from computers online forum, do not use your method(which I think is the one to do the calculations the ecu), and then if they are professionals, and they do so? and be good to all, and thinks for me is that I'm starting now, but if you have the spirit of the forum to give an example of how you would do the car in question, or if the others agree, you pay for the map(not even for my car, I take one at random) and we study all together


let me understand what is going on now alltrimenti burst a casino,namely:





finally, according to you, in this forum where we are trying to share as much as possible and the possible and help all free and we provide everything (see off-limits) and we go to pay for a map to the user chris156? DO YOU THINK WE NEED?

[ecuboost]

msport if you delete some mex'll explain it to you in MP

[msport (exil77grande)]

msport if you delete some mex'll explain it to you in MP

send me your address skype or msn in a pm that you add.

[ecuboost]

send me your address skype or msn in a pm that you add.
no it does send me tells me that you are full

[msport (exil77grande)]

no it does send me tells me that you are full

do not delete the previous messages in the retry to send me the pm that I have made space

[ecuboost]

today I started to give it gas, I arrived at 18% in pi?, but no smoke, I gave only 6% to the turbo, as ever nn still smoke?pu? be at least one limiter? Or perhaps the variable geometry?

[magi1984]

yeah, in that map you gave diesel?the 18% in the pi? ? an increase normal in certain maps

[ecuboost]

exact thing? Limiter or variable geometry? Anyway, I increased the ke ecm calls the deal? fuel injected, the car ? that of this discussion.

[magi1984]

exact, it referred to the question of munro "where you have given diesel?"

sorry but not ? best if placed in the mod file cos? can we control it?

[ecuboost]

the file ? gi? posted on the pi? times, the last mod nn I can post moment in qst

[msport (exil77grande)]

the file ? gi? posted on the pi? times, the last mod nn I can post moment in qst

to give you some advice in the most, you always have to post ori and mod so we can realize.

[ecuboost]

here's the proof in question

[ecuboost]

Someone that I daqualche tip?
to

[Chris156]

Here I am!!! Up to the time of injection of a 10% .. forgive ori the rail.. and try it.. all this even if you do, you deserve it!!! Pero now I have your file and I can answer you!!!
Same planet, stay for the next time..

[ecuboost]

Thanks,sorry but I've been misunderstood a lot of things.better to put a lid on it

[Chris156]

Quiet, unfortunately, when you do not speak you misunderstand many things.. try to do what I said.. give it a try and let me know (by writing here on the forum!!!) ..

[ecuboost]

I have to put ori the rail why? incompatible with the mod that I have recommended,or the xk? x you do not make sense?

[Chris156]

the rail is to be modified in certain occasions and with knowledge of the cause.. for the moment, let him ori and its limiters..

[ecuboost]

for? first they told me that I had done well in the rail, do you not ? done well?

[Chris156]

throw percentage in a map and say that ? done well, according to me don't you ? understand something..
however, each process in its own way..

Then we start to use a bit of logic.. if umenti the rail of the 5 % you have to automatically increase its limiters of 5 %. (this you have not already done so).

[ecuboost]

yes, I made both limiters, to tell you the truth, I followed step by step the guide found here on the forum, it was for the edc15 but also goes for the 16 in fact, I found the same curves, and the same limiters....maybe you have the wrong file, t? enter the other(I'm kidding).

[Chris156]

aahhh..that is..who knows which file I had sent!!!
if you need to send me something, ask first to the moderators, I don't want the responsibility of shares to true.

[ecuboost]

now look 50

[Chris156]

I arrived to 60!!!!!

[ecuboost]

I arrived to 60!!!!!

I was 110 before the crime, but then, now you can download the most recent that I had posted

[Chris156]

I've downloaded... you have only changed the turbo and the rail.. also modify the time.
Ps: up in the correct manner, the limiters of the rail..

[ecuboost]

I've downloaded... you have only changed the turbo and the rail.. also modify the time.
Ps: up in the correct manner, the limiters of the rail..

I can indicate where I am wrong? I followed along a guide, for? I will? missed something in qst point.

[Chris156]

but did you try the map? a list of what you have changed and how..

[ecuboost]

Certain that I tried it and it goes better for you? not that it's much better,feels that the nn ? as before, anyway I have changed the prex turbo, prex, rail, torque limiter, torque required, now ? for a while that I've made and I remember the percentages, but at the beginning someone had told me that I was wrong, of course you knew but I just wanted gainers much.

[Chris156]

Change the times and see that it will much more!!!

[ecuboost]

ok I have just a little time I try, first? the place cos? let's see if I don't do damage.

[Chris156]

but do you want the prepare I a map for example? you have to mod a few things.. and you will see that is so.

[ecuboost]

I said, I have the pleasure of learning, I know that with the money you can? get it all for? nn you learn nothing, thanks all the same, if some time I would be the idea of buying terr? into consideration.

[Chris156]

Here we go again... you see that I wrote that you prepare a map for example..I don't want to sell anything.. now you make me ban again!!!! :D
Anyway, prepare, and put it..

[cicciogsr]

I would like to break a lance in favor of chris156 ..***** and he says you will learn with the tests .. and with the diagnosis .. buying a file, you can avoid the shaking, but you won't know anything

[ecuboost]

I would like to break a lance in favor of chris156 ..***** and he says you will learn with the tests .. and with the diagnosis .. buying a file, you can avoid the shaking, but you won't know anything

Really I said it that I learn the maps ready, anyway, cris, sorry I got it wrong, prepare, and I hope that it does not serve only to me

[dvdtuning]

I would like to break a lance in favor of chris156 ..***** and he says you will learn with the tests .. and with the diagnosis .. buying a file, you can avoid the shaking, but you won't know anything

It is true, but if you don't understand anything a risk of making serious damage in this way. Serving all of and 2 according to me.

[msport (exil77grande)]

It is true, but if you don't understand anything a risk of making serious damage in this way. Serving all of and 2 according to me.

exact as you do with tests and diagnosis to do tests if you do not have a base.

[ecuboost]

but ? normal ecm makes me see the timing of injection, in bars|mm3/inj?

[alfajtd]

you ? exact

[megamind]

but ? normal ecm makes me see the timing of injection, in bars|mm3/inj?
I have not seen your map, but the time of inj on my edc16 are defined by the x-axis, mm3), and the y-axis prex in the rail bar and the result ? in microseconds.

[ecuboost]

I didn't know where to start to mod the injection timing, I have tried cos?, in the meantime, I mod a limiter rail outside driver, them check both please?

[ecuboost]

I forgot the file

[Chris156]

I saw the map.. for the purposes of performance of not ? the maximum.. times give 5% so not so much sense.. the rail I would put it ori.. if tonight I'll sketch a map (old-style) and try..
You have the fap active? how many miles do you have?

[ecuboost]

my ? without fap, 130000km, so I know the times I don't know in the slightest what criteria to intervene, I don't know what it means to that map, but that map can you? do damage, according to you, how many hp it takes, I do not want to + 10-15

[Chris156]

As promised, here is the file.. there are a thousand ways to map to the old style..at the end you're just tricking the ecu, and I honestly don't agree,but...patience..I have been following your way of mapping not to be confused with the ideas.. give it a try and see how it goes'!!!
Ps: enjoy your Alfa!!!

[ecuboost]

Ps: enjoy your Alfa!!!
I didn't understand it...anyway thanks for the map.

[ecuboost]

comments of the 5 people that have downloaded?I did not understand the map phase

[alfajtd]

the maps of the injection phase I would leave them for now, the original...

as well as the limiter in first gear

for the rest, give it a try...

instead of asking for comments if you did right or wrong to ask to the person concerned of the various changes
if you want to know how to... if you want to look for to ensure you then for your car...

you have already said that there are several ways to change it... but only one ? correct....
but without proper documentation ? impossible....

[cicciogsr]

the map for me ? try it I'm curious of the results obtained... the logic c'? many things I agree with, others not...I would try myself but I don't have that car..

[Chris156]

unfortunately, the type of map that you want not the postero' ever.. this ? a map according to the demands of ecuboost.. ? all calculated to have, for example, 4000giri the injection that ends at 1? after about pms, etc, etc...
just try it..

[ecuboost]

? normal that is not allowed? post the map as he does the work, I did not understand the maps of the phase, but as soon as I have 2 minutes I feel like I've figured out the "enjoy your alpha"...

[Chris156]

those maps are on the advance injection..

I am a' yet another motorist shameless!!! But I saw that the map was a good!!! at the end of the mountains, the same engine!!! Sorry!!!

[ecuboost]

to cpt seemed to me an outlet ingiro:-) anyway, it should be emphasized here that not horsemanship I the same engine, but the alpha assemble my engine:-) :-)

[ecuboost]

anyway, how many hp do you think that you earn with that map?indicatively,

[Chris156]

we are in the same family!!!!! for? like all families c'? who comes out the most beautiful!!!!!

Now I'm at work, but I gave 10mm3 about injection more.. you simply have to try it and see if you like it.. I am doing work on the engine with the same tolerances as the original.. unfortunately I do not know how is the clutch and I don't know how far we can go.. then take a look at the consumption and let me know!!! ;)

[ecuboost]

ok I'll let you know...thanks

[Team electronics]

Mamma mia, you are doing it in a few words the map!!!! trust that a forum cos? nn find it anywhere!!! Then I hear you always talking about Cv cv cv.... But horses are measured at the desk not to the beauty of data parameters from the various processing +or - customized!!!!

[ecuboost]

I know that horses are measured to the tour, but they have a lot of experience to realize approximately of the horses, and wonder of the horses, why? I don't want so many, why? "many horses eat as much"

[msport (exil77grande)]

chris, you wanted to make a map with a small try, however, so the post is finished since his intend was to help you let it alone,well let us know how it goes.

[ecuboost]

but that ? a map...not I stop?:-), gi? I have the next goal will be? try the prex rail and quantity? diesel on the map of chris...why? as I understand it chris ? likely to change the rail, others are in favour, of course, everyone has their method and their ideas.

[msport (exil77grande)]

however, the map is very modest.

[Chris156]

of course, there are precautions to be made , but let's say this ? a map econimica in all the directions, cut to the bone!!!!
Not ? easy to understand.. and I guess that seems basic, but not the ?.
for example bignerebbe mod the rail by 30mm3 to 50mm3.. but we are waiting on the road test.. and especially if the clutch is holding still.. ? a little weak at the low of the 120 hp, but the highest you can give.
If there are any questions just ask..always in the can will try? to answer..

[ecuboost]

but the clutch is not affected of the lim torque to the first gear increased?

[Chris156]

you have asked for a map from a few hp. then if you like the power ? another question.. for the rail does not change as you do and you have to see if you really need it.. without touching it reaches the structural limits of the engine.
If you want a board parts from small mod..and then increments where you need..

[alfajtd]

the clutch will not...
the max transmission, and joints.

However, I do not think that you are always going to be departures rocket...
and anyway if you have ASR inserted cut him, the power...
being the first very short, you don't need power over the 210 nm
so much more than sgommi...

that's why? ? needless to touch her...
then you are perfectly free to raise it a hair if you feel all is need?...

[Chris156]

you can argue endlessly, but if not try the map ? useless to talk to. I say, not the slide and not from nesssun problem!!!
The speech ? if you do not know the true logic of the maps you misunderstand the units of measurement. I lifted up the pedal, and the couple when there was no real need, it was enough only to the couple..and the pedal in a few spots.

[ecuboost]

okay I understand I'm going to try it right now...:-)

[alfajtd]

you can argue endlessly, but if not try the map ? useless to talk to. I say, not the slide and not from nesssun problem!!!
The speech ? if you do not know the true logic of the maps you misunderstand the units of measurement. I lifted up the pedal, and the couple when there was no real need, it was enough only to the couple..and the pedal in a few spots.


mine was only a' fact..
the clutch slitter? of course.. as long as the slip gi? now why? fruit...
of its diesel stand up well to every change made is not properly corrected without compromising on the pi? so, as to the reliability? of the same.

for the logic of the ecu is not s? if it was reported to me, but I don't think...

[ecuboost]

proven......the machine is good? dies every gear change...but now this ? normal...

[Chris156]

in that sense he dies every gear change?
as a performance feel smooth?

[ecuboost]

if a gear change under 2500 rpm, the car dies,the car, and` angry', but only above 2000 rpm.

[Chris156]

should be more of what you had done to you?

[ecuboost]

therefore you are? one thing I noticed I do not know if ? a coincidence or the map, the drive from the firm moves first, the one that I had made myself in my opinion was more? soft but regular basis, and this basis turns sebra gold, above 2000 ? pi? fast of the mine, below the mine was the best(according to me)? your after the 2000 rpm the climb feels that pushing on the seat the my less.

[megamind]

therefore you are? one thing I noticed I do not know if ? a coincidence or the map, the drive from the firm moves first, the one that I had made myself in my opinion was more? soft but regular basis, and this basis turns sebra gold, above 2000 ? pi? fast of the mine, below the mine was the best(according to me)? your after the 2000 rpm the climb feels that pushing on the seat the my less.
Alzala a little below and try again no? So I don't think anything happen. I was on my own I did cos

[Chris156]

my respects to the original.. the next step ? a bit of rail where you need it.. if you wait a minute you make it and you the place.. if the clutch holds good, we increment the time already low..

[Chris156]

here you go.. if you feel vibration under torque just turn down again all the times..
As always interpret the various changes..are always coarse..but it makes the difference!


To do this type of map (old-style) ? funny..the problem ? that may not apply to all of the ecu..you have to see the internal constraints and, therefore, calculate the new flow rate of diesel.. already? from one update to another you differ..

give it a try and let me know.. not to hurt you!!!

[cicciogsr]

the first map just pushes when you enter a couple why? ? have increased the iq at full load ... it is necessary to increase the flow on all the range of injection where it is needed and with gradulait? not to solicit in an irregular manner, the transmission...

[Chris156]

and here falls the donkey.. not seen but ? been modified all through the rpm range, and accordingly increased.. the problem of the under laps it was simply the increase in on time.. but as I said was to see if holding the clutch..

[megamind]

here you go.. if you feel vibration under torque just turn down again all the times..
As always interpret the various changes..are always coarse..but it makes the difference!


To do this type of map (old-style) ? funny..the problem ? that may not apply to all of the ecu..you have to see the internal constraints and, therefore, calculate the new flow rate of diesel.. already? from one update to another you differ..

give it a try and let me know.. not to hurt you!!!

Then if it vibrates, it means that the duration INJ ? too high? Or it can also be caused by some other map?

[cicciogsr]

and here falls the donkey.. not seen but ? been modified all through the rpm range, and accordingly increased.. the problem of the under laps it was simply the increase in on time.. but as I said was to see if holding the clutch..


the ass n? falls n? fly... as you made it, push the ecu to take more? torque, and therefore pi? reach all of us? converges to the maximum load but in the transient, the flow does not fit well to this request ... c'? a delay due to the time necessary for you to the ecu to convert the torque set in the flow... to speed up the response you have to touch the columns first, and review the request... I do not say that the method is not v? well etc.. why? I don't know... for? if you tap the columns as you should see that as soon as you touch the gas the engine fires immediately at the top..and change gear and not lose the 200 rpm reduction in the engine brake... the problem ? that if you do not increases with caution, and have the foot like a brick, you can accelerate the consumption of the transmission... or to change strategy and ... amen...then if systems the rail pretty well for check box the latency of the conversion...always considering the loss of power to drag the pump...

[Chris156]

the clutch vibrates simply because you're downloading too much "power" in those rides.. removing diesel solve the problem..

Ciccio sometimes the ass jumping up and seems to fly!!!!
Anyway what you wrote does not make a fold.. in fact if you see in the second example ? been increased in the rail situation is critical where needed to mitigate the "problem"..
However, it is clear that these maps are reduced to the bone, ? just to make understand and to approach to the logic of the ecu the user..
My maps are created in a completely different way, and without touching the times!!!!
Unfortunately ? normal that if you start to give a percentage of times the car is much more, but what ? next step and should be calculated in a manner to give a precise number of degrees after tdc, and the key thing ? give it more and more to not having spikes of high pressure turbo..

Returning to the map, according to me, so gi? we are at the limit or we have overcome it.. expect this on road test.

[megamind]

the clutch vibrates simply because you're downloading too much "power" in those rides.. removing diesel solve the problem..

Ciccio sometimes the ass jumping up and seems to fly!!!!
Anyway what you wrote does not make a fold.. in fact if you see in the second example ? been increased in the rail situation is critical where needed to mitigate the "problem"..
However, it is clear that these maps are reduced to the bone, ? just to make understand and to approach to the logic of the ecu the user..
My maps are created in a completely different way, and without touching the times!!!!
Unfortunately ? normal that if you start to give a percentage of times the car is much more, but what ? next step and should be calculated in a manner to give a precise number of degrees after tdc, and the key thing ? give it more and more to not having spikes of high pressure turbo..

Returning to the map, according to me, so gi? we are at the limit or we have overcome it.. expect this on road test.

But for the times what you mean, or rather what maps are you talking about? I have only increased the duration of the INJ but the SOI, I've just touched.
For this was wondering if abassando only that the number of rpm where d? the problem of vibrations risolvevo.
Or it could also be caused by other maps? The problem to me d? only 5th and 6th gear. Of course if you decrease the duration INJ then in the first 4 gears where I don't feel any particular vibration mi cala also? and this I would like to avoid it.

[Chris156]

you should open another discussion, and to see the map.. I don't even know what car it is..
for the times I mean durations inj.. advances are touched based on what you want from the engine..

[megamind]

you should open another discussion, and to see the map.. I don't even know what car it is..
for the times I mean durations inj.. advances are touched based on what you want from the engine..
Ok that was what I wanted to know let's talk about duration. Then I'll open up a discussion of abnormal Vibrations :rolleyes:

[cicciogsr]

the advance in diesel v? calculated on the basis of the flow rate which in turn v? assessed from the duration of injection and from the pressure .. in any case, not ? need to touch them why? the engine is designed with a large tolerance of the beginning of the injection, just look at the values in the map to realise that if you make a mistake number, the performance degrades... alter some parameters that I'm not here to describe for you to not get bored... try it and see..

[Chris156]

I continue to agree with you!!! not good to overdo it with the advances.

[mavaila1972]

the advance in diesel v? calculated on the basis of the flow rate which in turn v? assessed from the duration of injection and from the pressure .. in any case, not ? need to touch them why? the engine is designed with a large tolerance of the beginning of the injection, just look at the values in the map to realise that if you make a mistake number, the performance degrades... alter some parameters that I'm not here to describe for you to not get bored... try it and see..

I fully agree do not need to change the advances on diesel common rail but on the injector pump is not otherwise going strong

[cicciogsr]

on the injector pump does not have to get confused between the angle of start of injection and duration of injection... does not c'? need to mod even l? the advance... then they are points of view.

[Chris156]

change or not change the advances in...this ? a dilemma!!!
C'? an open discussion on advances.. because we don't keep them this is the speech, so all participate in..

[mavaila1972]

on the injector pump does not have to get confused between the angle of start of injection and duration of injection... does not c'? need to mod even l? the advance... then they are points of view.

sorry, I misunderstood I change the injection phase of the pde

[ecuboost]

yesterday I did a bit of road with the car, with the first map chris, it didn't do much the fault of the revs low, certainly not flew at low rpm but not as when I tried it the first time, since ? for a while I notice that the car does not ? constant low-speed can? be the catalyst for the middle clogged? the gauge on the air I checked the diagnosis and it was fine...let's see when the **** the workshop(My father) decides to take a ride with my car...in my area it is said that the shoemaker walks with the shoes with holes

[Chris156]

If you have the fap half clogged with my map, the clear quietly.. Try the second example .. And see if it's better!!!

[ecuboost]

I don't have the FAP

[Chris156]

? true.. to Me you had already? that said.. Try the second map example and see how it goes..

[ecuboost]

before you write to me ? came a doubt, I have written my ecu a 5 educated, I know that c'? a counter of the scriptures, but nn c'? the risk that there is a limit? c'? way to reset it? at the end of the map, I see a series of bits that do not relate to the management engine ? the cks or qst number of the scriptures?

[alfajtd]

of course, the counter scriptures advances...
let's say that up to 1000 times-there should be no problems...
however, in any case ? the success that is damaged but I'd traquillo... ? one thing remote.
to reset it you have to have instrumentation official, or you have to open the ecu and know where to go to tap.

[Chris156]

go quiet!!!
Have you tried the map?

[ecuboost]

no no no I had the time to write it

[Chris156]

ok.. same planet, stay not to keep the foot on the clutch.. otherwise the funds immediately.

[ecuboost]

in fact, from the moment that I write I try to give you the news, and I commend qst now.

[Chris156]

in fact, from the moment that I write I try to give you the news, and I commend qst now.
in that sense, forgive this time?

[ecuboost]

rimmetto the first what have you done let's see if I can get him some small measure taking inspiration also from the second that you did, why? when it does not lack I like it just fine, and for now, I have not noticed increased fuel consumption, on the contrary, maybe it consumes less.

[Chris156]

no excuse...put the second one and just don't make hacks.. and write how it goes..

[Chris156]

for the defect forget it, you have a problem, you maybe with the variable geometry..
on fuel consumption ? logical that consumption is very less.. you are not wasting even a drop of fuel without that is used!!!!

[ecuboost]

up to 90 % ? the catalyst is clogged, so I thought to try the second and then put back the first one for the fact that you said that we were probably over the limit and be careful of the clutch.

[Chris156]

go quiet.. the only limit is your clutch..if holding go quiet, if you see that slide at low enough to reduce to a few points in time.

[Chris156]

Sati still trying to map??? :p
Let us know something.

[ecuboost]

sorry if I'm gone, but I had problems with the ADSL connection, anyway the map I tried it, but it goes very slow, almost ori..***** and why is that?

[Chris156]

it seems to me impossible that go very slow.. sure you uploaded the right file? as soon as I return home in the control file.

[ecuboost]

I double checked I put the right one, so I put the first proof that you had posted, but I notice that every gear change, especially among first, second, and third, by beating on the joints, I have to lower a bit the lim torque?

[Chris156]

the only thing that you have to lower the time.. but if you lower it too much you have to delete the mod to the advance..

[ecuboost]

the only thing that you have to lower the time.. but if you lower it too much you have to delete the mod to the advance..

if them down with a 2% can I fix this? without changing the advances?
can you explain to me how they work qst maps?

[Chris156]

lower 2% of the time and lowers the advances to 1st grade..

[ecuboost]

here is just qst I wanted to ask you, how do I calculate the degrees? how do I lower it to a degree?for if you had facts to a degree, and 4?

[Chris156]

I know of you.. 1,4 ?.. if you want to edit it, and put it..so I give him a look..

[baiocco2000]

Hello, I am horace, a mechanic could you give me some advice kindly? I use ecm titanium on alfa 159 multijet how do I edit and do a 5percento increase on the timing of fuel injection from the 400 bar with 22 mm3q, I have to go to tap the same percentage as the 5-injection of the following listed below?