Collect the first gear (for work on the bmw)

[spark]

hello guys

the study, without the application does not lead very far, and not even particularly fun (that is, in all sectors, no ?)

for this reason, I wanted to ask information about the first gear to get to do a little bit of practice before
and make sure that these posts remain also a trace is useful for all the beginners who will follow and who will have the same questions

I can connect with some of the vehicles bmw
with greater ease? the model X3 E83 3.0 d 218hp (I think edc16c31)

just to get close, I thought I would try in the meantime with the harmless diagnostic

in the online shop linked to the forum of the PCT I found the ELM327 interface
I assume mounts a chip 327 compatible, but ? definitely very attractive price

the list of vehicles operated unfortunately does not help me in the case of the specific vehicle that you say it I
but I also know that vehicles have sophisticated of the many parameters that go well beyond what is provided by OBD-II

what do you think, with this interface on this machine, you can? do something about it ?

thanks for any information

[filippin87]

For the diagnosis elm327 is good for bmw I recommend looking for the version 1.4 or higher,to map or bdm but you have to open the ecu or mpps.

[tezzero]

as a programmer I suggest mpps excellent price and good quality

[msport (exil77grande)]

For the diagnosis elm327 is good for bmw I recommend looking for the version 1.4 or higher,to map or bdm but you have to open the ecu or mpps.

I honestly for the bmw I discouraged elm, and it is a toy but I have recommended, as a minimum, autocom.

[giarras]

definitely autocom ? much better since? on that car can handle almost all x with regard to the elm could only control the ecu but then it also depends on the type of software that you would use..I in his place I would start to buy the autocom.

[filippin87]

You are right but it depends on what it must do, and by the expenditure,why? c'? a big difference in price.

[spark]

well
thank you all for the information that are coming

the good msport I had already? warned
but then I thought I'd open the debate - cos? that it will be useful for everyone (beginners)

? guess that autocom is higher than the intefaccina elm327 - the two solutions have a price ratio of 6 to 1
for those who must choose to purchase, it is a nice fork

for giarras:
that the exact meaning must be given to "manage almost everything" (autocom) and "only control ecu" (elm327) ?

[munro]

but boys mpps manages to make even the latest bmw benz?

[spark]

alt, maybe I lost a piece
(and here you understand that you are beginner to ****llo 1 of 100)

I was convinced that the hw diagnostics was such a thing, and the one for programming maps were another
distinct under the functional profile

now, from what I read, it starts to get a doubt

an interface for diagnostics the autocom, elm327 et similia), I do not program definitely nothing - this ? pacific

but with a programmer (mpps, rooster,...), I find myself automatically also a hw can do diagnostics ?

ergo: if I take a programmer, I avoid it cos? also buy an interface for the diagnosis ?

(no, eh ?)

[munro]

I think that the interfaces for reprogramming non-face diagnostic..then you can? be that wrong(surely) let's see what say the more experienced....

[filippin87]

The exact interfaces of diagnosis does not make programming and vice versa.you need two interfaces, a diagnosis and programming.

[giarras]

then! given that you have requested information + detailed are pleased to dartele.
as I said with the elm, but also depends on the type of software that you would go to use run only diagnosis ecu cio? everything that concerns the management of the engine instead of with autocom x is the drive that you previously mentioned, you can also diagnose:
meanwhile, intelligent control of the ecu + engine management management abs management, instrumentation, management, air conditioning,management of the exchange in case of automatic management,immobilizer,managing drivers,managing multi-function, and in the end of the function service reset that of course, with the elm, even you dream of,I have been a huge fan of the elm, but only x the fiat group to tell the truth in my opinion ? even better than autocom,but x as the car you mentioned if you are using the carsoft international 6.5 or higher dedicated to the bmw always limited you'd be.
I hope now you have + clear everything.

[munro]

mmmm... good info giarras thanks.
now I have to find a autocom at a good price...because honestly with the scanner that I have in the workshop I am broke to give money..
by the way not s do I have if I can ask on the site but do you have any database type ******** free???
ah sorry guys but many times it happens to me especially with the smart fortwo that when I change the clutch actuator or the clutch of the car without replacing anything else from the exchange of these machines is the plant and not c'? to do so go with none of my scanner so I have to go, in Mb, that make a calibration procedure with their scanner official which I think is called star...I wanted to ask but autocom can do such a thing without throwing every time that happens to me 70 euro more half-day of work at those "smell under the nose" of "mechanical" mercedes(see vabb??? mechanics!!tz?!!)?? that I believe I know the best use of the tool....

[giarras]

qu? speaking of elm and autocom, xch? we are in a place where it speaks of electronic control units ecu, then x can perform checks on the parameters that are going to change x to have a picture + full, but if we talk about mechanical workshops, even if the above-mentioned diagnoses may go well, surely, I would trust other brands if you commit in the economic factor and certainly you could diagnose almost everything and in the best of ways.

[spark]

this s? that ? a forum !
thanks giarras, now the difference to me ? certainly clear

autocom ? then, a first reference - but for private use ? also a nice shopping

and somewhere in the middle ?

specifically bmw, I have found some products for diagnostic germanic seem to be interesting

an example of that ? unicarscan, which is provided with a dedicated sw for bmw

anyone knows ?
some alternative suggestion ?

[giarras]

this s? that ? a forum !
thanks giarras, now the difference to me ? certainly clear

autocom ? then, a first reference - but for private use ? also a nice shopping

and somewhere in the middle ?

specifically bmw, I have found some products for diagnostic germanic seem to be interesting

an example of that ? unicarscan, which is provided with a dedicated sw for bmw

anyone knows ?
some alternative suggestion ?

leaves lose ? how to have the elm make an effort and take autocom which works very well.

[spark]

ok giarras, message received
then c'? just by opening the wallet

I have been looking for info on the Autocom, and to study how ? the fact

[munro]

qu? speaking of elm and autocom, xch? we are in a place where it speaks of electronic control units ecu, then x can perform checks on the parameters that are going to change x to have a picture + full, but if we talk about mechanical workshops, even if the above-mentioned diagnoses may go well, surely, I would trust other brands if you commit in the economic factor and certainly you could diagnose almost everything and in the best of ways.
practically it seems to me that tips to gi? of scanner tied to the manufacturer as well as updates to let loose the interfaces of diagnosis, type elm or autocom??

[giarras]

practically it seems to me that tips to gi? of scanner tied to the manufacturer as well as updates to let loose the interfaces of diagnosis, type elm or autocom??

no I did not say that, in fact, to our friend I recommended autocom,but since he's tried the alternative cited unicarscan me ? seemed fair to say that the alternatives are other.

[munro]

but he said without mincing words to me, what do you advise me??I have the brainbee st6000 and the axone 2000, which as you know from time to time to be updated with the obvious costs if I wanted to replace them with a diagnostic interface from a pc would do well or not?

[spark]

ok, then it seems to me clear

with autocom you can? do the diagnostics decent on bmw

but how much it affects the software ?

what kit is it worth anything ?

such as sw alternative suggested, working with hw autocom and bmw ?

[virus1976]

if your primary need ? to work on bmw 360? then try to take a look at IMPA, OPS , OPPS spending varies from a 50ina of euro 350 (clones). I personally have the impa and for the small things and to drive up to the 2008/09 goes well

[spark]

hello virus1976
thanks for the information
it is hw or sw ?
however, I'm going to see on the network what it is
in case you disturber? for further clarification
in fact, I try something that will make the pi? you can on the bmw, at a reasonable price

[virus1976]

hello Spark
The IMPA, OPS, OPPS are essenzialemte HW have accompanying software that are IMPA, DIS, SSSprogman, with this type of equipment can do from a simple diagnosis to the programming of the various on-board systems, in short, is tantamount to a diagnosis is official and everything.

[spark]

I understand
many thanks for the reply

in your experience, how you place compared to autocom ?

[virus1976]

Are a number of specialized diagnostic only on bmw,are not very flexible and very cumbersome in use, but allow you to do everything there? that is a conce bmw. The installation of the software requires a minimum of knowledge and news release (the case of systems Like UNIX). I for convenience? I took an old ibm pc(100euro) and I have installed on the system. I could not tell you how to place them rispesto to autocom ? a good diagnosis.
Try to take only The IMPA not spend a capital and you can make a p? interventions pi? specialized

[spark]

many thanks for the information
I studied during the week-end