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bmw320cd
23-02-2015, 17:39
hi to all
I will tell you a little story, and why I'm posting this file here edc16c9 694_476
then you pretty much have I done to map my astra,as I had already written in this forum, by a well-known trainer in sicily "eastern"....

a very serious, but apparently, heard good things about it from various people, etc... makes me a great price, go there, and I opened the ecu and makes me a tour of the BDM port the 1st time..... in my astra the control unit and close to the wheel arch,then each time the wax to assemble and disassemble the wheel with the loss of time and burns,given the strong braking during the tests.... all the way, although I have done about 3 files and the car was going very well,I'll go back to the house nice quiet doing some pull to see if there is problem of recovery and it seemed like they were not there,even if you don't pull too because here in sicily it was the summer of 42? degrees on the highway and I didn't want to "eat" nothing......... then one night I came back from the outside , there was a nice long straight and I think "mo now the ironing board as a whole, and we see how it is".... well, and here the problems begin...the machine goes into recovery as soon as I pass the 180-200 in 5a at 4500-4600 rpm...

the contact referring to problems on me, but no ? impossible,no ? question of the map, another car identical to yours (same hw and sw) has the same map and print tot miles now without any problem etc..... but either way, there I go,in the meantime, I increase a little push at the top (say 3200) and I drop the torque is low because every so often tended to slip the clutch... remount the wheel to the ecu etc (says via obd could make it read or write) the greeting allotment for my city,I try again and, worse, worse.... basically, if I'm more than 5-10 seconds on the tablet of 5a over 4 thousand rpm, must be in recovery for over-pressure turbo (p0234-5A)....

I recall back to my city, and I do,watch ? impossible,of the map ? perfect....I, being stubborn, we agree for another day,I rivado and try 5 file (always mounted and smontanto the wheel and the fender,because it was always in the bdm)...even I try one to say that "less than the original" as values, and actually the car was going very slowly...but the error ? checked the same,even if after more time that I was in the tablet, say about 20-25 seconds (before instead of after 5-10 seconds, it gave the error), I shall transmit the file with which I had arrived (i.e. the second one powered up) and tells me to check the following things:

-map sensor (changed)

-tubes depression (changed,one was cracked, but did not ? nothing changed)

-solenoid valve-pierburg (the one that adjusts the depression that you send to the actuator for the variable geometry,changed, and also this without results)

-disassemble the fan and clean the variable geometry from sludge and deposits (done,? true was pretty dirty,I've improved ,but I have not solved the problem)

-westgate (what ? the actuator of the variable geometry,checked,cleaned and lubricated, and it's perfectly tells me the mechanic)

the mean've checked and replaced the pieces , and I get to say,will be the turbine,you need to change it...... and here I begin to suspicion,because the turbine does not burn a drop of oil, post perfect , the impeller is perfect , no game, not even millimetre...
I do the tune and I do send the file to the original bed in the bdm, and the file that I have everything (even if you reveal different) now always done by him, while shortly after I drive-I read the map via obd with mpps v13 and I'm making a comparison with the modified file that I had sent him...

well, what to say between the two modified files, the "my" read by obd and the "his" written in the bdm, there are things that are completely opposite,the changes made to the cabbage,the table that seem to be made by a child of 5 years, things touched here and there with no sense... now I'm attaching here all the files, the original bdm, modified bdm, and changed the bed in the obd to me... and let's see what comes out from the real experts

bmw320cd
23-02-2015, 17:48
while if you compare with this one, the bed in the obd seems to have changed so made as "right".... can me was wrong to send you the files ? pero hw and sw in those sent by him correspond (original BDM and amended written bdm) (694_476)

https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/astra-vt93-post10894.html#post10894

ugoboss
24-02-2015, 07:26
I can assure you that this machine to read it in the bdm and serial with mpps can give you those differences that you see, I don't know why but ? also happened to me, as far as the map in my humble opinion can give you a malfunction, you provatyo with the original? definitely not a mistake, then I ask you but how much you consume this machine?

bmw320cd
24-02-2015, 11:20
I can assure you that this machine to read it in the bdm and serial with mpps can give you those differences that you see, I don't know why but ? also happened to me, as far as the map in my humble opinion can give you a malfunction, you provatyo with the original? definitely not a mistake, then I ask you but how much you consume this machine?


the usual 4 changes maps pedals,times,rail , egr most anything outside driver.... but lambda,the quantity injected,turbo pressure, etc match perfectly,just like I said the mapper,i.e. that the pressure turbo had not touched by the map....

on fuel consumption I can't complain... ? although there is always an "old" 1.7 isuzu, in a city with 20€ I do about 200km with pace (not slow nor too fast), while on the highway at 130 do 240km every 20€ without any problem...also count that ? 5 speed my

franco75
24-02-2015, 11:23
For me, the original who has sent you not ? correct, also give the 35 % on the times it seems to me normal.
Without touching the limiters turbo, it seems to me normal that with all of the diesel fuel, the pressure of the turbo runs out of control.
For me, the map would have to be redone, unless it's wrong to compare it with the original file

legendaryslave
24-02-2015, 13:24
bisognorebbe have the ori correct to make a comparison so you do not get to a conclusion

bmw320cd
24-02-2015, 13:27
For me, the original who has sent you not ? correct, also give the 35 % on the times it seems to me normal.
Without touching the limiters turbo, it seems to me normal that with all of the diesel fuel, the pressure of the turbo runs out of control.
For me, the map would have to be redone, unless it's wrong to compare it with the original file


why do not you find it normal, 35%?? fumacchia a while, of course,especially over the 3000mila laps,but nothing out of the ordinary... there are certain tdi that seem to be at the coal.... all the way I made a small test with a seat 1.9 tdi mapped, and I gave him a lot of road,maybe too much....
through diagnosis opcom as the pressure I have every once in a 1.5 peak , and 1.25-1.3 constants to 4 thousand rpm... you are raised a little the pressure turbo after I cleaned the geometry of the turbine...here there is a my video where you can see the pressure before the cleaning of the geometry)



bmw320cd
24-02-2015, 15:23
bisognorebbe have the ori correct to make a comparison so you do not get to a conclusion

my hw and sw 694_476.... now here on the forum, there is a .ori with these codes,and it seems to be the right one,because, precisely, it corresponds in many values that are not addressed in the map...

franco75
24-02-2015, 15:53
I also compared with that present in the forum, the map of time for me has excessive increases, even with that file I see increases of 35%.
According to me, so you have too much fuel in the delay

bmw320cd
24-02-2015, 16:15
I also compared with that present in the forum, the map of time for me has excessive increases, even with that file I see increases of 35%.
According to me, so you have too much fuel in the delay

it is the map time ? the only one that those increases of 35% compared to the other two golds (the forum) and FLASHASTRA1originale
you do realize that there is also a little in advance of the injection,then I don't think is all diesel "thrown" to empty.... also why not throw only smoke and ? to stop...the high goes really well for my tastes.... just that it is in the protection :(

franco75
24-02-2015, 16:35
yes I saw but has only 2 degrees and something of advance against a 20 degrees of duration at most. I would have given more turbo map and limiters and less diesel fuel from the times

bmw320cd
24-02-2015, 16:47
yes I saw but has only 2 degrees and something of advance against a 20 degrees of duration at most. I would have given more turbo map and limiters and less diesel fuel from the times

you knew it, and he told me that he works a lot on the diesel more, the turbo pressure...especially for people like me who like the engine "frulli," well into the high without the stretch to close it (if you have too much pressure turbo and a little diesel ? so....
anyway, I go sure, then, that the file sent by him ? wrong no? and I take as a reference the 694_476 here in the right forum?
also leaving everything as to how ?, and going from 3% of rail now in the 4% (I want to alzaro of 1%) , adapting limiatore of course, I can do for overpressure? I feel as limiter, turbo, 1.4 bar (ecm 2400hpa in decimal) ?
or do I let the rail to 3%, and I still work on advances? I know but touching advances bad,you run the risk of breaking the pistons if the diesel comes too soon....

ugoboss
25-02-2015, 07:25
the file that has the read data in the bdm ? the original, compared with an ori read by me, always in the bdm and ? the same, however, you have to write in the bdm, if you want to write in the obd, you have to use the one found in the forum, but remember that it does not write all the maps in this ecu are repeated 2 times, on these cars ? always best to use the bdm.

bmw320cd
25-02-2015, 13:04
the file that has the read data in the bdm ? the original, compared with an ori read by me, always in the bdm and ? the same, however, you have to write in the bdm, if you want to write in the obd, you have to use the one found in the forum, but remember that it does not write all the maps in this ecu are repeated 2 times, on these cars ? always best to use the bdm.

but look at seeing the 2d the original file sent by the mapper , it seems to me there are parts of the map repeated two times.... just ce the 1st part ? the part we say "bdm" in the file caught here on the forum, obviously not ? this, in fact, there is a flat line....
the maps in this file here on the forum and the bdm of the mapper,they begin at the same address....

antonios25
25-02-2015, 13:33
the shelters you from the stain pu? be due or pressure turbo, or an inconsistency in the map between the throttle and the quantity of diesel injected

ugoboss
25-02-2015, 13:52
but look at seeing the 2d the original file sent by the mapper , it seems to me there are parts of the map repeated two times.... just ce the 1st part ? the part we say "bdm" in the file caught here on the forum, obviously not ? this, in fact, there is a flat line....
the maps in this file here on the forum and the bdm of the mapper,they begin at the same address....

there is a flat line because it is not read and written in serial, and ? for this reason these cars you are to make it in the bdm.

bmw320cd
25-02-2015, 14:00
there is a flat line because it is not read and written in serial, and ? for this reason these cars you are to make it in the bdm.

but in the first part there are maps important... even the same driver in the ecm (as rogue) can give you all the existing maps in the part that I read in the serial.... in part bdm is not touched anything

cinqueturbo
25-02-2015, 14:48
but in the first part there are maps important... even the same driver in the ecm (as rogue) can give you all the existing maps in the part that I read in the serial.... in part bdm is not touched anything

That ECM does not give you the maps and a fact.
we know well that the ECM not even the ones that tells you they are real or actual..
not or seen your file Ori Mod pero I guarantee you that you repeat a multitude? maps on these EDC16C9 species Opel..
I ugoboss on the whole topic..

bmw320cd
25-02-2015, 14:55
That ECM does not give you the maps and a fact.
we know well that the ECM not even the ones that tells you they are real or actual..
not or seen your file Ori Mod pero I guarantee you that you repeat a multitude? maps on these EDC16C9 species Opel..
I ugoboss on the whole topic..

but if you do,and I change only a part,i.e. the one that you can tap in the obd, leaving the other as they were,and what happens?

cinqueturbo
25-02-2015, 15:38
Don't get anything concrete..
you have to exponentially increasing the maps and then go to failure at 100%
even the EGR maps parallel..

bmw320cd
25-02-2015, 16:56
Don't get anything concrete..
you have to exponentially increasing the maps and then go to failure at 100%
even the EGR maps parallel..

in the file .ori bdm sent by the mapper, we limiter turbo to 0.9 bar (1900 hpa), while in the one bed in the obd downloaded here from the forum we limiter 1.3 bar (2300hpa), which corresponds to what I have read I am in the obd... so I do not trust much of .ori bed in the bdm, because there are big differences

ugoboss
25-02-2015, 17:57
in the file .ori bdm sent by the mapper, we limiter turbo to 0.9 bar (1900 hpa), while in the one bed in the obd downloaded here from the forum we limiter 1.3 bar (2300hpa), which corresponds to what I have read I am in the obd... so I do not trust much of .ori bed in the bdm, because there are big differences

I stop here, it seems that you do not understand that this machine by reading it in from the serial port and bdm gives you two different files, do as you think best.

bmw320cd
26-02-2015, 00:56
I stop here, it seems that you do not understand that this machine by reading it in from the serial port and bdm gives you two different files, do as you think best.

that gives me two different files, I figured it out,but the two different files may be different at the beginning,where in fact in the obd, there is a straight line ,while in bdm and full of curves.... but it may be different in the maps of the engine,and also reading them to the destination.... there is not logic, I'm sorry