Kessv2 original is not recognized

[gianni1001]

Hi to all
I have a problem some day
After The id in a car with kessv2 worked fine , I disconnected the kess and after a few hours the surprise.
I reconnected the kess to the PC and did the usual updates from alientech
? the past to 2.10.
For? when now attack the kess is not recognized, it says to me "external exception eefface"
I tried to change the usb and reinstall the program, then also the cable... But nothing
With the k-tag works....
Someone has a solution?

[msport (exil77grande)]

it may just be a technical problem of alien,give it a try later or max tomorrow and see that it solves everything,if by tomorrow no alien contact directly and happened a few time to me as well.

[gianni1001]

Thanks
I hope...
Among other things, the machine will not run on the pi?....
I thought it was an injector to the n?4
X, which loosens the machine 3 left
Instead, I made them check and are in place....

[Mikigor]

Of what car you're talking about. Impossible with the id of the ecu can't block it.

[gianni1001]

Zafira 2005 with bosch edc16 c9
Removed the key from the framework
Disconnected the battery, I waited for 15 minutes, then I disconnected.
I open with care using the levers of plastic, and the scalpel.
You ? open I would say in a seamless, without the trauma of torsion.
The edges of the card are far enough away to prevent contact with the components.
Not ? the first that I open.
Then I had to move the machine.
I have a go-around, I attached the battery
I put in motion, and not as if it does not read the transponder.
The attack on the diagnosis and tells me error injector 4.
Check the wires in the wiring harness, ok
Check the injectors, ok
Check the comb on the ecu ok
But what the hell can? to be a success?
The only thing that I did ? The id and open it.
But is this possible???
But what can? to be a success?

[gianni1001]

I checked consumes lens 40x the entire surface of the card
Around the edge there are no signs of contact and non-contact parts are in place and there are no cracks strange....

[gianni1001]

Not "consumed" but "lens"

[ugoboss]

I did not understand why you have it open, it usually opens to do a reading in the bdm, but not with the kess, for id do not believe that you can block, the problem for me ? in the opening, have you been following the rule that after the opening you need to riattaccarla and try the set in motion for see any problems? no, of course, and I know that the problem is ? them, just because you get error on an injector, it's already happened to others on this ecu, you should try to get a reading in the bdm (sometimes you can read it anyway) and find another one to clone.

[gianni1001]

Thanks Ugo
I'll explain the reason.
With the kess (at least I in this case, I wanted to avoid problems x a number of reasons and h used the official slave) in the menu where you choose what to do not appear the possibility? to read it in the obd.
Then I made The id, as I usually do, and then I followed the procedure above x stsccarla.
The proof of the pudding after it opened, I made it, before trying to move it.
? l? that I noticed that was wrong...
For? the only thing that I did ? Id.
L' I due to open why? x read it I wanted to use the k-tag x to do a full backup.
I have read xch? opening it, I realized that the photos that are available in the help there are inconsistencies.
Then I made the picture and I sent it to my master x ask how I should proceed.
If you tell me that ? failed x as I open it there I think.
If ? for that reason I do the ECU.
But not x, which are touchy, but because
I can swear on the thing that I pi? dear to the world that I have not been gentle and attentive... more?.
And it seems strange to me
If I had taken part while reading it I could understand it.
But cos? no!! Porcacci

[gianni1001]

Sorry Ugo
I turned on thinking about that ? success and I get lost during the lecture, what is pi? important.
I would like to understand How to pu? to be a success.
Not seeing damage on the ecu
How can I figure out where I went wrong?
Thanks to you all x support

[gianni1001]

I heard the customer
X luck ? very understanding
He has a friend in the open and has been given as the diagnosis of a strange thing.
In practice ? success that the injector
N?4 has a by-pass on the ecu....
Then cala pressure and shuts down the machine
But how the heck ? could all of this happen?

[ugoboss]

I heard the customer
X luck ? very understanding
He has a friend in the open and has been given as the diagnosis of a strange thing.
In practice ? success that the injector
N?4 has a by-pass on the ecu....
Then cala pressure and shuts down the machine
But how the heck ? could all of this happen?

I wish that is true, but the rest doubtful, now what you were told to do? have you tried to read it in the bdm?

[ugoboss]

another question that comes to me ?, if the car first went, and you have only opened the ecu, how did he break the injector n?4?

[gianni1001]

Really? like I said before the injectors work.
Results from diagnosis opel that there is as a bypass done by the control unit on the injector n4 that being open makes you lose pressure, and then the machine shuts down... This ? what I have said.
I'd be curious too, I know how to give could succederecuna thing.
I would have expected a different type of problem opening it.
How did he create a bypass.?

[gianni1001]

The car in this time ? still in opel...
Must try it with a unit that will have them.
If that goes then I try to do a clone.
And what do you want me to say....

[Mikigor]

I think that the control unit is to be thrown away. To open it you will? route any track.
However, the council once again put into the car ? put in motion before proceeding with any other operation.

[ugoboss]

Really? like I said before the injectors work.
Results from diagnosis opel that there is as a bypass done by the control unit on the injector n4 that being open makes you lose pressure, and then the machine shuts down... This ? what I have said.
I'd be curious too, I know how to give could succederecuna thing.
I would have expected a different type of problem opening it.
How did he create a bypass.?

the pcb of the ecu ? composed of many (let's call them layers) layers, where in the middle there are the connections for the various components of the ecu, we talk about the links are very tiny and very delicate, very likely that if it is interrupted one or more.

[gianni1001]

I think that the control unit is to be thrown away. To open it you will? route any track.
However, the council once again put into the car ? put in motion before proceeding with any other operation.

Guys maybe I have not explained
I have done just that
I didn't do any write operation or a read to bank n? from the obd.
I know as well as they are made to the units....
I know that you think that I was l? with two screwdrivers to stortare the control unit.
No.
Unfortunately, I do not know and I understand.
For? I can assure you that I opened it with all possible precautions, and of the utmost delicacy.
? this is what I can not explain.
If I had jack we could figure it out....
Of the trade I do another thing
Work already? with products that use microelectronics.
What I been telling you not ? compatible with the one that to me ? success.

[rodcraft86]

pu? also be the fault of the tool, the certainty of operation is not c'? never, not even with the official? it seems to me a strange thing, I've opened 4 of the c9 and I never had problems of this type, even without the use of "white glove" to say, to a friend with the kess ori but not updated, the ? happened a block ecu on a edc17c46 by simply the recognition by the serial

[gianni1001]

If I can add one thing that I thought was not connected, but now that someone has said....
Since I made The id of the car
I do not work on the pi? the kess.
The attack on the PC and I d? connection error.... External exception EEFFACE....
or connection error....

[ugoboss]

Guys maybe I have not explained
I have done just that
I didn't do any write operation or a read to bank n? from the obd.
I know as well as they are made to the units....
I know that you think that I was l? with two screwdrivers to stortare the control unit.
No.
Unfortunately, I do not know and I understand.
For? I can assure you that I opened it with all possible precautions, and of the utmost delicacy.
? this is what I can not explain.
If I had jack we could figure it out....
Of the trade I do another thing
Work already? with products that use microelectronics.
What I been telling you not ? compatible with the one that to me ? success.

gianni I think no one doubt what you say, but unfortunately, the reality says that the unit is very likely ? blown ? success is equal to a colleague of mine, opening edc16c39 alpha reassembled, and the machine should not be better to error on the injectors, he know that ? managed to repair it, by a technician, you wait to hear what you'll say in opel, and then try to read it in the bdm to clone an alltra used.

[gianni1001]

I enclose a photo of the offending component on the line of the component with the adhesive 228 and the fourth on the right.
The breakage or short circuit would have created the fault seen in the diagnosis.
The component is located in the bottom of the board and the cio? the hidden side.
If anyone knows of a technician that repairs can verify there? they told me I would be very happy to understand how it was possible.

[rodcraft86]

it does not seem a c9 that ecu

[msport (exil77grande)]

gianni I deleted the double post and I accidentally deleted the photo attached in case the re,for the fact that you and the success you wonder why maybe you have used all possible delicacy, but I don't wonder for nothing because it's happened to you,happened to me and it's happened to most people better than us so quiet, take it with philosophy.

[gianni1001]

But certainly Msport
All in all ? a business risk that there is '.
It was just to understand what kind of error I did not possibly repeat it.
X the photo ? the same
Thanks to all the info x

[gianni1001]

Then...
As I'm a blockhead, and I'm not giving up...
Found the fault
I discovered that the component is burned, which I posted the photo, it was a mosfet, this ? his code with which you will find: HUFA76419D3S.
And in that the control unit seems that happens to x the fault of the injector..... Of course, replaced....

[rodcraft86]

very interesting, congratulations for the scrupolosit?, the reason of the burning what will

[ugoboss]

then you fixed it, very good!

[gianni1001]

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