Opinion the map Alfa 156 1.9 JTD EDC15 020_785

[alxcrs]

Hi guys,
it is the first time that a place in a map made by me, I would like to have your advice, and maybe even suggestions as to correctly locate the maps off by the driver of Titanium...
I have to say that the objective is to upgrade to a slight extent also because the machine in question has almost 200000 Miles!!!
As the title suggests, it's a Alfa 156 1.9 JTD 110cv EDC15 020_785 of which you can find the gold in the bank data to the post no.16.
I thank you in advance...

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[cinqueturbo]

The Map Ok..
you can ask for more? without any problems..
Curl in acceleration in the real world? and quantity? injected maximum..
Rail pressure leak in Points, not in percentage
turbo just me 100-120Mb in pi?..
also check the other maps turbo should be more?
out of the drivers I can think of 079AA6-079B82
compare the maps with a 115hp..
or given a square fast if someone else at the time ricontrolli...

[franco75]

I would venture a criticism, since we are in the same town :cool: , you have given too much to the map times and little of everything else.
In fact ? a map "deceived", certainly not damage you do and the you can test.
I still would put up the torque limiter and the turbo but with fewer maps time (injection zoned in the ECM)
Occurs with a diagnosis if the turbo pressure follows the values in the map, you may have spikes.
daccordissimo with everything you have recommended cinqueturbo

[alxcrs]

Hello Cinqueturbo, first of all thanks for the reply...
Then, I kept conservative for the mileage to be fairly high, but also because it's been left in a garage for almost a year (this does not mean that after a period of test the map can be retouched...) also I still have not been able to purchase a self-diagnosis, so I can't verify (data) as it reacts to the engine.
With regard to the rail pressure, I made it as a percentage to maintain a performance closer to that of the map unit.
For the turbo, that was increased by only 50 points (mBar) in order to not over-stress immediately the fairy turbine...!!!!

For the other two maps turbo that I have indicated, I would need your help:
The first 79AA6 should be a 10x10 as a function of the water temperature
The second 79B82 I think it is a limiter, but I don't know to interpret it...

[alxcrs]

Hello Franco75, it's good to find a fellow on the forum, who knows maybe of view, we also know of...
But let us, I decided to try a map deceived' cause I still don't have a diagnosis so I can't verify the actual amount of diesel that I'm going to inject, how much air I can get him to breathe, that temperatures reach the drain and all the rest...

Regarding the maps, injection zoned ECM, I thought that they were actually maps the injection also why those times usually have a pattern of steps and more irregular (mea culpa).
Certainly, if you have maps of the times the increase that I have given (from 6 to 10 %) and' excessive, for now, I present to you ori, however, if I remember correctly on EDC15 a degree corresponds to about 43 points, right?

For the pressure turbo, I gave a 50-point increase in own not to go to tease limiters that I still don't know locate..

I run to give some touching...!!!

[alxcrs]

I gave a look with WinOLS, below is what I managed to understand...
Missing a single bit, for those it takes a bit of experience in more...!!!!

7944A ?
796DE egr duty cycle
79AA6 boost limiter ?
79B82 ?
79C46 rail pressure limiter ?
79FA2 ?
7B18A driver wish
7B274 ?
7B562 smoke map
7BC0C IQ limiter ?
7BC52 rail pressure limiter ?
7BD70 rail pressure
7C414 ?
7C53C rail pressure limiter ?
7CAC8 duration limiter
7CD10 duration limiter
7C880 duration limiter
7CF58 ?
7D32C turbo pressure ?
7D958 ?
7E3DA SOI ?
7E5DA SOI ?
7EDC8 ?
7F7FC turbo pressure
7FA5C ?
7FBCE an overboost

[franco75]

maps times are in microseconds, and why? talk about degrees?
in the advances of power-on 43 points, the equivalent of a degree

[alxcrs]

You are absolutely right, I expressed myself badly...
When I asked for confirmation for 43 points I was referring to the maps of advances (SOI) and not to the maps of the time.

About the addresses that I have indicated, I could say if you are on the right way?

As an individual, the individual bits for closing the egr, for the limitation of the rail and to limit the turbo?

[alxcrs]

A small update on the maps identified....:

796DE egr duty cycle
79AA6 turbo pressure
79C46 rail pressure limiter ?
79FA2 boost limiter
7B18A driver wish
7B274 ?
7B562 smoke map
7BC0C IQ limiter ?
7BC50 rail pressure limiter ?
7BD70 rail pressure
7C414 ?
7C52C rail pressure limiter ?
7CAC8 duration limiter
7CD10 duration limiter
7C880 duration limiter
7CF58 ?
7D32C turbo pressure ?
7D958 ?
7DA98 ?
7E3DA SOI ?
7E5DA SOI ?
7EDC8 rail pressure limiter
7F7FC turbo pressure
7FA5C turbo pressure f(temp)
7FBCE an overboost

If someone wants to give me a tip.... it is well accepted!

[alxcrs]

How about this version...?
Although I have not increased the increases compared to the first (the machine has always 200000 km), I tried to follow the advice of Cinqueturbo and Franco75, so I gave it a value of well-defined to the rail (1400), I have avoided to increase the maps that didn't need them and I also increased the maps turbo out of the driver...
As far as the other out of driver, type the SOI and the other limiters rail, I did not increase, the first because with diesel are the most popular (68 mm3 from arricc. in acceler.) I don't think there is a need for it. The latter because they are not sure what they are referring.

I look forward to your opinion....!!!

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[franco75]

I can just give a look

[alxcrs]

I do a small summary of the most recent version that I have posted it for those like me who still can not download attachments...:

THE SECOND DRIVER IN THE ECM:
EGR Duty Cycle -> closed from the map
WILL. in ACCEL. -> increased up to a maximum value of 68.02mm3/the
LIMIT. TORQUE -> increased up to a maximum value of 61.48mm3/the
INIEZ. PROV. (map fumes) -> left ori
PRESS. RAIL -> increased across the map to 500 points - value max 1400 Bar
LIMIT. PRESS. RAIL. -> increased across the map to 700 points - max value 1420 Bar
INIEZ. PROV.(map1) -> release both ori
INIEZ. PROV.(map2) -> left ori
PRESS. TURBO -> increased 120 points fixed - value max 2200 Bar
TIME of an overboost - > left ori

OUT OF THE DRIVER IN THE ECM:
SOI -> release both ori
LIMIT. PRESS. RAIL. -> left ori because" I'm not sure
PRESS. TURBO f(TEMP)-> left ori because" I'm not sure
PRESS. TURBO -> increased 120 fixed points
LIMIT. PRESS. TURBO -> increased 120 fixed points

What do you think..?

[alxcrs]

In retrospect, I think it is better that down slightly, the rail and its respective limiter to 1380 and 1400 bar respectively... and then all the cloth ori the pressure to a minimum... what do you think?

[alxcrs]

Here is the file with the adjustments to the rail pressure and the limiter... I have also given a ritoccatina to the curve of the torque limiter to make it a little bit more linear...

[franco75]

incrementerei the map limitation smoke, then you can write it down and try
You should make a log of turbo pressure, q.t? inj, rpm and load before and after the map

[cinqueturbo]

But the diesel it to him to give to you?

[alxcrs]

Hello frank, unfortunately I can not login because I have not yet had the opportunity to purchase a self-diagnosis (I had intension to take a Delphi/Autocom), then I'm gonna have to load it and go on the basis of sensations...
With regard to the limitation smoke, I never touched because already in the map there are values from 70 mm3...

[alxcrs]

Hello Cinqueturbo, I increased the pedal up to 68mm3...
I have increased the time because I believe that with these increases, there is a need for it...
The same consideration I made for the map fumes (now rimodifichero' as suggested by Franco75)...

Maybe I missed a map out of driver, in that case, if you could give me a little help would accept gladly!

[alxcrs]

Here is the file with the addition of the limitation of the flue gas.
I increased the max value in the map from the original 70.47 to the 76.11mm3/the

I understand that may seem increments of poor entity, but I don't overdo it on
a car with 200k miles!!

As I already said I don't have experience, all your advice to me is gold!

[alxcrs]

In these days, finally carichero' this latest version, no one has given a look?

[tezzero]

[alxcrs]

Hello Tezzero, thanks I just wanted a confirmation...
Certainly not I have to go on the track, according to you, the logic that I used to edit it, and' correct?

[biondo83]

If you use the programmer, the Rooster, the diagnosis you can do it also with the latter.

[alxcrs]

Hello Blond, no, don't use the cock, I have a kessv2 not phew...

[Errecinque]

If you use the programmer, the Rooster, the diagnosis you can do it also with the latter.

Azz.....this is not the I knew......m? control!!! Thanks

[alxcrs]

Since I wanted to increase a bit the advances (approximately 2 deg) I confirm that the addresses are 07E3DA and 07E5DA...?

[alxcrs]

Here is the map even with the advances in modified...
I gave max 86 points that should correspond to 2 degrees.
You might give it a look because I made them in 2D using Titanium, then I would like to have your opinion.
Thanks!