repair framework tools digital renault scenic

[freddyecu]

hello to all alego-step guide x to repair the instrument panel of the renault scenic in the case where it loses the memorio or for dimming both partial and total display+parts list.

for the pass contact msport


http://www.sendspace*****/files/wcx4hu

[andrew64]

hi can someone help me to solve this damn fault, despite having changed components : 12 resistors from 1 ohm to the mosfet, the fuse and the voltage regulator, the picture comes on but after a while of operation, it begins to turn off and on again
thanks to all those who will speak for your disponibillita'
I forgot the guide I downloaded, but I can't read why? I do not have the permissions

[audi sp]

cio lost time I also.. I changed a lot of parts.. but nothing to do.. I never managed to fix it.. and frankly I have never understood the why? does not work!

[freddyecu]

If you have changed the components and that's not good including the integrated 8-pin ( near the resistors) in general, and him that is shut down and turn on the ignition, try to put the card on a table in the floor of the heated thoroughly with a hair dryer-hot air would expect that cools well and see if it goes on..,

[mecdoc]

cio lost time I also.. I changed a lot of parts.. but nothing to do.. I never managed to fix it.. and frankly I have never understood the why? does not work!
cio tried but I got it I also the same results, nothing to do
someone ? never managed to fix it?

[andrew64]

I in addition to heat the shed where c? the feed to a temperature of about 250? I redid all the soldering of the resistors 12 more that which is marked with 300
and up to now is maintaining in the following we'll let you know if this worked

[audi sp]

someone to info about it??

[andrew64]

until now it works perfectly without giving any discomfort

[afortunao]

Hello, I have not been able to see the manual, why? not c'? need to pass the descoprimir file.

Reading what comentais some here, I can say that in some cases, the file in the eeprom 93C56 ? damaged, and valid data must be loaded, it loads the file must be compatible with the version of the microprocessor (V6, V5, etc.).

The explanation ? the box receives and transmits network (CAN), if the file ? corrupted eeprom, the microprocessor does not generate the signal to turn on the box.

I hope that helps. Greetings

p.d.: ****** translator

[giary74]

I in addition to heat the shed where c? the feed to a temperature of about 250? I redid all the soldering of the resistors 12 more that which is marked with 300
and up to now is maintaining in the following we'll let you know if this worked

I also, while I was going to change the resistance, I realized that they were almost all detached due to overheating of the plate. It took risaldarle all, and magically work again. If I remember correctly, the card, which was covered by a chain of plastic that limited heat dissipation. You could create some air intake on this chain, so as to facilitate the dissipation of heat produced by the components; I remember that the card was so heated that he took in shades of burnt!!! Does not harm to try.

[andrew64]

in fact, in addition to heat-up the tab, I forellato the casing of plastic, so that the heat dim

[angel]

Often there are other 3 resestienze that have broken welds should be made with care...are in series and are located below the row of capacitors yellow...
Referring also to the ones I had fits very rarely..

[demolitionMan]

these paintings often suffer from detachment of the welds, cold-are-made-from-home mother.

[msport (exil77grande)]

guys I have the picture of a scenic family that already 2 years ago it was repaired,now and again, spoiled,who has had very good results on this repair that I send him the picture?

it looks like a nursery rhyme hahaha.

[audi sp]

? a mystery.. you do not understand anything.. everyone says its.. but then I don't know.. I have never worked after the replacement of components...

[motorsport]

guys these pictures are a scab on 10 out of the met? perfect...if you are interested, I can post a nice guide to measure the 12 resistors in omh mosfet and fuse also l integrated 8-pin must be changed when the ignition is not turned on,in short, and a new guide is not the usual you find on the net...

[msport (exil77grande)]

here we have a I don't know if it's the same.

[angel]

Well, I have to be honest I do not fall almost never.. but I do a lot, we have a conc renault near here...will be? I got the hand.

[sa80libero]

I have repaired several and so far no problem.
and advisable to change the whole kit easily available for you ? affixed....

[msport (exil77grande)]

Well, I have to be honest I do not fall almost never.. but I do a lot, we have a conc renault near here...will be? I got the hand.

then we send it to you?
in case we feel in the pm to agree.

[angel]

Ok if you can wait that we dance for the cock see PM if anything it makes the tt together

[msport (exil77grande)]

Ok if you can wait that we dance for the cock see PM if anything it makes the tt together

ok leave me your contact in pm or call me at my.

[motorsport]

anyway the place and again with the mod and info in + July 2012 pw in pm!!

[batt.1]

Hi guys from a few days to work on a framework scenicII I was able to raise him from the dead, the only problem is the information display of the car radio that is obscured. anyone has any idea about it? thanks in advance

[obd75]

I have repaired a discrete n?,nel99% of the cases ? the mosfet and the fusibbile smd, then I do the carpet the welds near the 8pin smd are, from the connector ,an important perfectly clean the board after soldering,the dough is contained in the tin for solder causes defects of the shutdown,the first time that I have not cared for the process of cleaning it I lost 2 days trying to a defect which was basically solved.

[freddyecu]

? ache important after repair, make holes with the drill on the body of the plastic x improve cooling and prevent breakage in the future

[batt.1]

Thanks x answers :)

[andrew64]

you have to heat it with a hair dryer-hot air what type of car designers welds behind the shed of the display, or belittling

[spiki_x]

Also I have repaired one with success. :)
Before I changed the mosfet with a IRFS4127 that has quality? the upper (20mOhm, 200V) then I soldered in parallel to the suppressor current (resistance) white another 1.5 To, just to be on the safe side. But by measuring the components, I found that they were healthy. Of course, reconnecting the framework was working at times then you spengieva by moving it or by light pressure on the connector. Were the resistors from 1 ohm that you were dissaldate, remodeling and distributed to the great.
Work in a factory of electronic cards and I can tell you that it is a widespread problem. And since when have prohibited the use of lead for welding and began the odyssey electronics malfunctioning. And really almost impossible to make the welds good , without burning everything. In addition, and also a lot more difficult to do the repairs... in theory it should be scaltare of about ten degrees in.... in practice, sometimes the card begins to smoke and still the welding does not yield.
A conspiracy nice and its on the pretext eco-friendly to produce the most garbage, instead of making products that last.

[armor]

hi girls, because I can not download the file attachment from motorsport
tells me

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account and activated it, what's wrong ?
thanks

[giary74]

hi girls, because I can not download the file attachment from motorsport
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Take a look at the regulation.

[msport (exil77grande)]

hi girls, because I can not download the file attachment from motorsport
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mistakes not to read the rules and to enter into a forum without even introduce yourself and ask in pm.

[obd75]

and s? you have to read before.....
reach up to 80 messages may seem simple, a forum ? done to discuss then the messages should accumulate without problems,
the probblema ? another qu? it has to do with users with a good preparation and also usually if a topic protresti be of help c'? who ? light years ahead.
you search in the forum to give aid to reading the various discussions, but we realize that often c'? to learn.

p.'s administrators,since this message ? just my observation does not offend me if it is not considered.

[blueangel666]

Hello guys, after I presented, here is my first message.
I have read the rules, and unfortunately, that limit of 80 messages to download or ask for a pass, it does not allow me to put the hand on the framework scenic.
I don't want to make the user mischievous and write here and there, I want to be honest.
As you know, the problem with the ignition switched off ? a BIG problem, because you can't see anything, you risk being stranded for any reason.

I will tell you a little of my history :

My qudro original ? destroyed, with solder and desolder, now the tracks are gone completely.

They gave me 2 pictures, never been opened.

I replaced the Mosfet and fuse in both :

- In one, you just entered, you ? burned the fuse immediately ...... what will? success ??

_ The second one, after replacing the fuse, and Mosfet, just inserted, it seems to fry, but do not turn on ..... what will? ??

May 3 pictures, I can not make one ??

[angel]

Hello guys, after I presented, here is my first message.
I have read the rules, and unfortunately, that limit of 80 messages to download or ask for a pass, it does not allow me to put the hand on the framework scenic.
I don't want to make the user mischievous and write here and there, I want to be honest.
As you know, the problem with the ignition switched off ? a BIG problem, because you can't see anything, you risk being stranded for any reason.

I will tell you a little of my history :

My qudro original ? destroyed, with solder and desolder, now the tracks are gone completely.

They gave me 2 pictures, never been opened.

I replaced the Mosfet and fuse in both :

- In one, you just entered, you ? burned the fuse immediately ...... what will? success ??

_ The second one, after replacing the fuse, and Mosfet, just inserted, it seems to fry, but do not turn on ..... what will? ??

May 3 pictures, I can not make one ??

Mmmm make sure that you check all the welds that you have made and any courts, otherwise in the picture that jumps immediately to the fuse ? likely that one of the capacitors is at a loss, the yellow ones near the transformer, check them out with the tester or togline one by one to find the one at a loss.
It is strange that of the three non-it functions even 1, if you do the repair in a workmanlike the percentage of success ? of the 99 %.
Hello

[blueangel666]

My percentage of failed ? 100% instead :-D

Before giving it to a technician and pay those large digits, I'd like to restore it (obviously ? pi? fulfilling, in addition pi? economic)

About fuse, are good ones to 8 Amps ?? Unfortunately, I took them also delayed, I in the wrong order (which, to be clear 1206 Fuse 8A F, featured on a guide found on the internet that you will know

You can't? with a tester , check with the ignition switched off and unplugged, to find the fault, looking here and there on the card ?

I forgot, the fuse is that ? jumped was from 6.5 To ( the original)

Can I do damage with the one from 8 To late that I mentioned above ?

[angel]

I figured it seemed to me that it was from the 4, but if you are sure that you have not done a short test to check, as I have already said, the capacitors in orange that are in a row next to the transformer, you can do this also with the tester, sometimes I found some at a loss.

[blueangel666]

I open a new post, it's better not mess up this post in relief for my problems....

[andrew64]

you should also change all the resistors in 70% of cases are their when you fry them

[andrew64]

or with a hair dryer from a bodyshop heats the part where ec is the fuse that there are resistors and test

[blueangel666]

Guys, help me in another post that I opened for my problem.... there are BIG NEWS.... thanks to your advice

[net_proo]

hello,
I change my scenic II digital, but the radio station does not work, my scenic II ? 2004, ma ? new digital, maybe the digital ? the other version, or c'? a trick to change ...

[motorsport]

Dashboard change of the scenic non c'? no makeup!!

[centrohifi]

Hi ...
..the procedure for replacing the mosfet and fuse 6A ? ok ... I have repaired about 200 pcs gi? from way back in 2004 ..never replaced the resistor and capacitors ..***** and try to sell you some company ... just redo all the welds of a group power for instance the one around the transformer ...l-max controller !!
What I have not read ( or maybe me ? escaped ) " ? that should always be rescheduled for the 93c56 " ...the classic problem of these pictures ? with the fight of the tensions in the KM to go up dramatically, as you lose the configurations ...frame, etc etc ... the fact ? that there are about 10 different versions and at least 2 with power supply voltages of the display V 5.0 and V6.01 --
if the file you unconfigure the framework does not light up and if it does you have a prob as the instantaneous power.... etc etc

[mobilservice]

I venture to answer why? I ran into the same problem. The precise sector are a complete beginner, but electronics I've come a long way.
Start by saying that, strangely enough, I've already? solved one and today still does not fit.

My procedure ? was the following: I have used enough flux and then with a hot air station (I would say professional) I made the reflow of all the components in the SMD. After that with soldering iron rod set at 245? I have taken all the welds to reofili. The second step, I replaced the micro fuse, and the driving mosfet.
The last step is very important ? was that the cleaning total and accurate flux and the residual parts of solder contained null pond using detergents for cleaning the PCB.

Prior to my intuition, I drilled holes for the ventilation of the components also I confess to you that I set out to do, which if included would have mounted a small fan to the suction holes is managed by a very simple temperature sensor that are now at a very low cost.
I really enjoyed it, believe me.
Greetings

[giary74]

anyway the place and again with the mod and info in + July 2012 pw in pm!!

hello Motorsport, since I can not contact you in private, could you give me the password to your guide?
Thanks

[giary74]

Hi ...
What I have not read ( or maybe me ? escaped ) " ? that should always be rescheduled for the 93c56 " ...the classic problem of these pictures ? with the fight of the tensions in the KM to go up dramatically, as you lose the configurations ...frame, etc etc ... the fact ? that there are about 10 different versions and at least 2 with power supply voltages of the display V 5.0 and V6.01 --
if the file you unconfigure the framework does not light up and if it does you have a prob as the instantaneous power.... etc etc

good evening to all, referring to what was said by our friend centrohifi about the memory that should always be rescheduled, I have seen that is used for Dashboard Renault Scenic 2 editor, a program that I can not find on the net. Is there anyone who knows where to find it or some alternative?