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Emanuele54
21-11-2014, 14:33
Hello all,
To start a good map for this historic vehicle, someone advised me to find the limiters turbo and do this:

"the association tables pressure rounds are to 16bit before maps and injection advance
if you don't move up to 1.5 bar "

Now, I could not find such a curve does anyone know the addresses ???

Thanks

ugoboss
21-11-2014, 21:55
if placed in the file perhaps ? better.

Emanuele54
22-11-2014, 18:03
Hi the file I had already? posted in another discussion

"https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/reading-eprom-lancia-delta-evo1-vt6535.html"

To the maximum as soon as I can the reloading

ugoboss
23-11-2014, 19:40
I do not believe that the limiter turbo is the first of the maps injection and turbo and see 16bit, maybe you are wrong with the brekpoin of the same, try to look at 003b94 for the management and 003c10 for the limiters.

Emanuele54
24-11-2014, 15:05
Hello, I place the files on this unit :

lancia delta evo1 Ecu IAW04E wh4w.08/90k-9b


thanks

silven
30-11-2014, 21:58
This ? my bread.... the boost-limit cio? the cutting of the turbo is located at the address 3c20 up to 3c2f but this machine has several maps of the turbo you list a few... the Peak of the turbo,the cio? the maximum pressure reached. The fixed-cio? the pressure at which stabilizes the turbo. The peak of the turbo which is limited in first and second(what is now called torque limiter) And finally, there is the power curve of the pressure. These names are real of acting as the curves..When can? download the file and check can? help you with accuracy are still novello to the forum... do not let me download, but of these machines I've done a lot (read my presentation...) and note that the curves are read backwards (from right to left...)

Emanuele54
01-12-2014, 08:45
Thanks a lot look with a lot of pleasure.....

silven
01-12-2014, 14:00
Thanks a lot look with a lot of pleasure.....

Nothing... if you need any other info ask as well,before they can see your file, I'm afraid it passer? of the time... I have to get it seems to me to 80 if I "beam" before...:)

carfixer
13-01-2015, 04:48
Hoping to learn something. Thank you.

carfixer
13-01-2015, 04:49
sorry i don t down !

Emanuele54
14-01-2015, 12:25
news? on this map????

Emanuele54
26-01-2015, 14:38
someone managed to find some info on these limiters are not listed in the driver???
thanks

silven
26-01-2015, 21:08
I have gi? said something.. what do you want to know more??

Emanuele54
27-01-2015, 09:08
This ? my bread.... the boost-limit cio? the cutting of the turbo is located at the address 3c20 up to 3c2f but this machine has several maps of the turbo you list a few... the Peak of the turbo,the cio? the maximum pressure reached. The fixed-cio? the pressure at which stabilizes the turbo. The peak of the turbo which is limited in first and second(what is now called torque limiter) And finally, there is the power curve of the pressure. These names are real of acting as the curves..When can? download the file and check can? help you with accuracy are still novello to the forum... do not let me download, but of these machines I've done a lot (read my presentation...) and note that the curves are read backwards (from right to left...)


Hello, I wanted to understand how to manage all the other curves that I talk to you..... but maybe not, you can still download the file......wait with patience for your supervision and some straight on this car.

Thanks

silven
27-01-2015, 13:50
It is, in fact, I still can't download,but if you have any question let me also try? to respond to the arm....

ugoboss
28-01-2015, 07:06
It is, in fact, I still can't download,but if you have any question let me also try? to respond to the arm....

you may not download , but you can always post a modified file of a delta to see the changes, these files were all similar.

silven
28-01-2015, 13:31
you may not download , but you can always post a modified file of a delta to see the changes, these files were all similar.

you have the reason, but these in the store I do not have more? nothing due to a pc that me ? was stolen 2 years ago, I've however various steps of the eprom already made of the time,only that I have to read... will see? to do something...

matech
03-02-2015, 17:10
if you take a iaw the 16v addresses are always those then....

Emanuele54
10-02-2015, 09:27
you have the reason, but these in the store I do not have more? nothing due to a pc that me ? was stolen 2 years ago, I've however various steps of the eprom already made of the time,only that I have to read... will see? to do something...

Hi Silven you have news? for me?

I tried to change the email addresses that I have recommended and actually there are nice steps forward..... for? am more and more convinced that there is a pressure limiter is not marked in the drivers as I see the needle of the pressure gauge squirt 1.2 bar peak (maximum measurement pressure gauge original), but I am convinced that we can do better......
You've had time to recover those steps when I talk to you?????

Thanks

silven
10-02-2015, 13:41
To measure pressure well you would need a pressure gauge professional external to the original is not accurate to see the nuances,I have not yet understood what'? your problem with the pressure,keep in mind that we at the time eliminavamo the electronic pressure control the adjustment we made with the wastgate line or a vent valve in series with the valve for the reason that cos? by being able to have the pressure pi? stable, (with the electronics we always had big peaks and then the operating pressure is lowered too much) in the ecu aumentavamo only the pressure limiter to avoid clipping... then you will not fix with the pressure ? depending on the load in first and second gear you will never see big pressure...the pressure you have to adjust in fourth gear on the 4000giri and taking also slightly slowed down... then see the right pressure...

Emanuele54
10-02-2015, 14:13
Hello now you should be able to download the files, if I attach as soon as I have a moment I will give a look and the related tips?

Thanks

silven
11-02-2015, 18:38
Hello now you should be able to download the files, if I attach as soon as I have a moment I will give a look and the related tips?

Thanks

Yes, now I can download,put it that I'll give you the eye,the next week I have to make one too..

Emanuele54
16-02-2015, 09:35
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Hello, I uploaded the file....... I look forward to some nice straight....... thanks

silven
16-02-2015, 10:37
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Hello, I uploaded the file....... I look forward to some nice straight....... thanks

I gave a look,we are a bit out of the way as a modification, instead of increasing the injection have decreased... in the meantime, begins to tell me with which software you edit so we start to speak the same language...

Emanuele54
16-02-2015, 11:00
Hello, I ECMTitanium..... the injection I left it lowered just because? I didn't know initially how to lavorarva this unit and I started with a file found in the database that I have seen him give a few problems.... then I left them.....

matech
16-02-2015, 19:24
First of all, speaking of' injection ? was smagrita loads, intermediate, and slightly retouched in a positive way to high turbochargers.
Of to if it can? to be a successful modification, if it is compared to a change in the fuel pressure. The fuel mixture, however, remains to be evaluated with the lambda probe.
What I rrende most amazed ? that ? deleted the cold enrichment! goes very well in the cold?

With regard to the turbocharger, I see considerable increases: depends on the wastegate, but with a map so? arriver? to run at 1.6 bar!

And here comes the ignition advance: pu? also go good to give a little advance notice (see about 2 degrees) at low loads, but you have protatto the increase, even in cases where this engine tends a little to the beat in my head...
The worst thing remain the advances in high-pressure turbocharger: to turn to those pressures ? absolutely impossible (and dangerous) to keep the advances of the series!!


The best map of the series, maybe with a LITTLE tweaking to the turbo pressure: you do less damage and go ir? strong ;-)

silven
16-02-2015, 23:25
Is the map here would have a bit of logic if they were mounted injectors, uprated pistons and decompressed it would also explain the leaning to the cold... and the advance.*****s, Emanuele, tell us, what changes has your machine, or if the original in everything so we have an idea on what to do..

Emanuele54
17-02-2015, 09:56
The machine ? completely original.....

silven
17-02-2015, 21:58
First of all, speaking of' injection ? was smagrita loads, intermediate, and slightly retouched in a positive way to high turbochargers.
Of to if it can? to be a successful modification, if it is compared to a change in the fuel pressure. The fuel mixture, however, remains to be evaluated with the lambda probe.
What I rrende most amazed ? that ? deleted the cold enrichment! goes very well in the cold?

With regard to the turbocharger, I see considerable increases: depends on the wastegate, but with a map so? arriver? to run at 1.6 bar!

And here comes the ignition advance: pu? also go good to give a little advance notice (see about 2 degrees) at low loads, but you have protatto the increase, even in cases where this engine tends a little to the beat in my head...
The worst thing remain the advances in high-pressure turbocharger: to turn to those pressures ? absolutely impossible (and dangerous) to keep the advances of the series!!


The best map of the series, maybe with a LITTLE tweaking to the turbo pressure: you do less damage and go ir? strong ;-)


silven
17-02-2015, 22:08
Of course I asked the question to the matech, but if someone knows answer me and well-accepted... I forgot to say that the machine ? LANCIA DELTA 2000 8V TURBO 185CV MARELLI IAW WH4E.03

Emanuele54
25-02-2015, 15:20
The machine I can guarantee you that run well at any rpm.......