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blitz3r
04-10-2014, 15:34
Hello everyone, today I made my first luca stanca on my Bravo 1.6 mjet EDC16+c39, him back here so that others can have my testimony of the operation, and not only words without foundation, I closed the EGR and then processed the file with time and correct the bit from clogging, diagnosis, everything is ok, the egr stop and clogging 0%... I purchased a catalyst dpf used (the original I kept it, you never know).

many to the first knock out the DPF leaving almost all intact (with the risk of detaching pieces with the vibration), but I preferred to completely empty the DPF leaving only the catalyst (a bit tiring because? inside, there is really so much pottery that to completely remove it, I spent 1 hour, also I have to protect it with a jig saw the dust that he created)

I reassembled everything and leaving sensors and pipes attached and the engine starts, everything seems ok, motor? normal, just hunting for a slight fumatina when I accelerate up to the bottom of the retainer, fumatina on the road, do not notice their own, even pulling the gears, stench 0, in the diagnosis, everything is ok.

In the road test no change at low revs (c'? always in that gap (lag) of the turbo under 1600 rpm, which I was hoping to go away with the removal), but the power delivery ? pi? "smooth" and pulls soooo much better in the long.

Now I just need to try the car and monitor the consumption.

QUESTIONS:
How much time/miles do I have to wait before we can say that the operation is successful? I have to wait for the light on?
It is necessary to close the conduit of the egr with a plate? or just leave it closed so?
The fumatina ? normal according to your experience? the fumatina is with the original map, so I exclude the map wrong, the fumatina I consider this to be acceptable since the exhaust now ? only with kat and silencer, but a second opinion never hurts.
What I gained in terms of performance? the car is definitely better, but not c'? all is performance difference as they said, the cio? ? minimum, I expected more.
It is necessary to make changes to the maps to match the non-presence of the DPF? (without maps from the performance, only a slight adaptation)

Greetings!

francescosparco
04-10-2014, 17:03
I instead of the dpf emptied I would have bought downpipe. x as far as the egr if c put the plate there is evil. xke and dirty and maybe now is not chusa but remained slightly open

blitz3r
04-10-2014, 19:13
I attach the file for those who want to give a look also to inform you that I'm trying out the car and goes very well, and the fuel consumption, instantaneous (on the display) dropped considerably! :O only the time can? say if I removed it I'm weight of the jerking, oil changes and excessive consumption!

8640

tecnoecu
05-10-2014, 00:05
hello, I wanted to say ke the time on these ecu with regard to the fap nn does a good job you need to make changes in the manual

ake85
06-10-2014, 14:15
the time is only a mess if you want to do a job well done, I recommend you to ask online service...in the edc16c39 the procedure ? very complex and if you don't know the procedure, I doubt that time has done its job...from experience I advise you to see as well...
tried it once on edc16 for closing the egr and instead of exclude the curve right overrode another curve...are software that if not updated always wrong!

blitz3r
06-10-2014, 14:48
eke, but have you tried on this ecu and have found that it works? or you say hear you say?
The edc16c39 are the pi? easy from what I've seen, even why? just the switch off to disable the DPF management, except for the EDC16+ euro 5 as in my case.
For the egr I manually closed, and I can say that when it works, only that closes the pi? maps of the due, while carsoftware works well, I edited the file and verified the differences.

Anyway, I'm doing many miles / kilometres everything seems to be ok.

ake85
06-10-2014, 14:57
I do not say to heard to say, " I the procedure I know it well and I also know how you're doing, and surely can't post it here...I told you, time does not do his job, but I say it just me...at least for my little experience I do not commend never to a software

ake85
06-10-2014, 15:02
then little question as you have seen, change the DPF? with the ecm? if you've seen him do this at least once

blitz3r
06-10-2014, 15:41
no I asked you if you know how to do it or not, that I do not care, but I have still not said if you tried it once on edc16c+39 euro 5 and you can say 100% (or someone else who has tried that can? confirm) that does not work, this I would like to know.

On edc16c39've seen it done with a common hex editor in 10 seconds, but on the + 5 euro is the only solution ? the emulation, not c'? switch.

dvdtuning
06-10-2014, 18:52
For my experience ? very important to reset all the parameters, otherwise, dpf light lit on the euro 5 the mod does not work well. I tried once at the time and turned on the light after a while, I speak of the bravo 1.6 mjet 120 hp euro 5.

blitz3r
06-10-2014, 19:11
hello dvdtuning, are you referring to the zero replacement dpf before and after the reading? if you're referring to that, I did, on the occasion of the mod, I replaced the oil and reset the indicator of degradation.
If instead you are referring to more mod that time has something for everyone, then well... we'll see over time, if turn on lamp touches me to correct file from someone more? expert, but so far everything is going ok, clogging remains fixed at 0% and no mention of regeneration, I have travelled about 150km and until now everything is ok.

blitz3r
06-10-2014, 19:22
notice also that tried to pull the various components to see if time had removed some DTC, everything is ok, the errors are normally stored in memory.
I hope for the best :)

matteo23
08-10-2014, 15:10
Keep us informed if you see which lights are on.. Or evidence of regeneration..

blitz3r
14-10-2014, 14:02
after about 400km and until now everything is ok.

blitz3r
31-10-2014, 09:42
Pathways to the present 971km(after 1 month), no light everything is ok and parameters ok (clogging of 0%, etc... etc...)...
so at this point I would say that time if used with certain precautions works on the 1.6 mjet.

but I'm sure that there will be? those who always say? that time does not work on this car and they do the hand-to-hand intend to copy and paste from another file, perhaps made with time).

I greet you!

matteo23
31-10-2014, 12:10
There are ... of the contrasting experiences to that of blitz3r..??

blitz3r
07-11-2014, 10:44
1052km now everything ok 0 regenerations and oil to 95%

max75
07-11-2014, 11:44
I did a couple a long time ago ? until today no problem using a time ? by correcting something in hand

michele30
07-11-2014, 20:16
Not selling the file I don't know , but I don't think that once you have cleared the area dtc of the diesel, it seems strange to me, however, time does not do a lot of things, but not how, but changes from one machine to another, even of the same model.
However, if all goes well, better that way.

jovandj
08-11-2014, 19:09
I knew that on this time, was working at 90% then we had to touch up the bits clogging.

dvdtuning
10-11-2014, 21:33
I'm on a bravo 1.6 mjet 120cv, euro 5, I tried only once, then *******then time + ******* but it was not for the simple fact that it had the lamp dpf on and could not regenerate, as they had already broken the dpf. At the time I had to leave work because? it was outside the area and they asked me to put everything back the ori why? would have reinstalled the dpf. I have not been able to more deepen, the other ricopiavo hand with the solution ******* and I never had any problems.