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bmw320cd
19-08-2014, 19:16
hi to all
I've just overlooking to the world of chiptuning and I started to do some small work to a file a opel astra 1.7 cdti 101cv bosch edc16c9 and the file of my car,but for now, I'm not interested in,before I have to learn to work well,then maybe I'll have my my for my car ;) )
that said, I am attaching a .ori and .mod
I worked for now only on
- the required torque during the acceleration
- torque request during the standard terms and conditions
- torque limiter maximum
- rail pressure
- limiter rail pressure ( l' I brought a little above the maximum value set in the table of the rail pressure)
I tried to move the dispensing slightly higher, 4500-5200 rpm, but I don't know if we are successful
see you soon :)

file ori deleted

leandro89
19-08-2014, 20:43
hi to all
I've just overlooking to the world of chiptuning and I started to do some small work to a file a opel astra 1.7 cdti 101cv bosch edc16c9 and the file of my car,but for now, I'm not interested in,before I have to learn to work well,then maybe I'll have my my for my car ;) )
that said, I am attaching a .ori and .mod
I worked for now only on
- the required torque during the acceleration
- torque request during the standard terms and conditions
- torque limiter maximum
- rail pressure
- limiter rail pressure ( l' I brought a little above the maximum value set in the table of the rail pressure)
I tried to move the dispensing slightly higher, 4500-5200 rpm, but I don't know if we are successful
see you soon :)

file ori deleted

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the file ori should be posted in the database if there were no gi?, and, in the various discussions, paste the link with the number of split also note that the file ori should be posted in the correct manner specifying the type of car, ecu, engine, hp, hw, sw, and reading tool

bmw320cd
19-08-2014, 21:21
the file .ori was already present here on the forum, got it from here, in fact I had specified that it was my car....
and it was attached as my in another discussion,only that I can not find where...
anyway here is the link to the post of the .ori files of the database

https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/astra-vt93-2.html#post23055

Astra H GTC 1.7 to 101cv A694_412 EDC16C9 Ori.rar

bmw320cd
20-08-2014, 16:14
here is another .mod file , I added the changes to the management turbo,limiter, turbocharged and quantity of the fuel...
I've put a limiter turbo 2150hpa ie = 1.15 bar maximum turbo,then I would say within the tolerances,the original was to 0.9bar
in addition, in the pressure turbo to the max son arrived in 2010hpa,i.e. 1.01bar....
comment if I proceed in the right direction
thanks to early

Driver
20-08-2014, 17:08

bmw320cd
20-08-2014, 17:19
on the turbo even more? average full load on the 150-180 points... I would not want to fry the turbine after a short time,and also because the car has exhaust and kat completely original...
as distribution we? I tried to move it higher through maps torque in acceleration and torque limiter,giving aid, even with the turbo at the top....at around 2000 rpm instead of at full load I increased % less , in order to preserve a little clutch from excessive stress...
I miss to understand how the injection time and if ? useful retouching...

Driver
20-08-2014, 17:55
If you want to leave it so? the turbo, then use the same logic that you used on the map the pedal to map the injection times and then try it.

bmw320cd
20-08-2014, 18:11
through the ecm I I these tables are accessed via driver...

- injection time (a single table)
- phase-injection - injection main base map 1 (of these there are 6 tables,with growing numbers from 1 up to 6)

I should retouch the first right?
then there are ****llo limiter smoke; hence the probe top and the bottom that I did not understand what they do and in fact I did not touch..

Driver
20-08-2014, 19:13
Sure you have to touch that which is called the injection times. The other maps handle the advances of the pump and carburetor. Definitely touching on these maps you can get even better results, but for a base map I don't toccherei.

bmw320cd
20-08-2014, 20:16
if I'm not mistaken, when you touch the injection time increases heavily smoke; hence, right?

Driver
20-08-2014, 20:24
If you do not exaggerate do not smoke. Diaciamo that act on the injection time ? the via ir? easy to inject diesel fuel. If all the other maps are adequate, with the same increments should not smoke. then just try and see....

betrescudan
20-08-2014, 20:40
keep a limit of 10-11% increments on the injection and do not smoke....

bmw320cd
21-08-2014, 01:36
keep a limit of 10-11% increments on the injection and do not smoke....

this 11% across the board, or usually in a progressive way, arriving at the peak only in full load? because if you do 11% at 1600 rpm when the turbo is dozing off, I imagine the smoke to type iveco daily...


If you do not exaggerate do not smoke. Diaciamo that act on the injection time ? the via ir? easy to inject diesel fuel. If all the other maps are adequate, with the same increments should not smoke. then just try and see....

I had read that also to increase the rail pressure ? the more "redditizzio" to let more fuel in to burn everything...with the injection timing increases the time that the injector sprays diesel fuel,while increasing the rail pressure, increases the amount of fuel sprayed by the single-injection cycle so that it burned all...
ah, also,the famous maps pedal are these two right?

- the required torque during the acceleration
- torque request during the standard terms and conditions

they already increased... while the limiter of maximum torque and a thing in itself, right?

after an evening of working on it here is the best I could do,thanks to your advice and various things read on the internet... I miss the closing egr but... can I use the via driver ecm maps "quantity of gas introduced to" and "percentage valve opening" ?
on the injection time, I immediately ran into the limits driver, in fact, in some points (a little) are not able to go more than 3-4% increase.... I adjusted again, the maps pedals and a maximum torque and a little tweaking to the rail pressure... I have increased generally, the values and optimized (I think) a while the delivery...
here is the file 3.mod

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how to always look your comments and opinions...

Driver
21-08-2014, 10:18
In the torque limiter c'? a bit towards the end that ori was at zero and changed (should put it back to zero). The injection times I would have left a bit more? in the top of the zone change, maybe? it smokes a bit. Rail pressure, I would not have exaggerated up to 10%.

Regarding the EGR, you can't close using the method of EDC15 cio? the one you stated above, but you have to bring to zero the controls for the egr, which you can find by scrolling through the file 2D. Try to look for some photos here on the forum, how are the controls egr of these ecu's. Not ? hard to find them.

bmw320cd
21-08-2014, 13:39
In the torque limiter c'? a bit towards the end that ori was at zero and changed (should put it back to zero). The injection times I would have left a bit more? in the top of the zone change, maybe? it smokes a bit. Rail pressure, I would not have exaggerated up to 10%.

Regarding the EGR, you can't close using the method of EDC15 cio? the one you stated above, but you have to bring to zero the controls for the egr, which you can find by scrolling through the file 2D. Try to look for some photos here on the forum, how are the controls egr of these ecu's. Not ? hard to find them.

the torque limiter of the moved so high as to not have cuts,given that even using the map lirr had increased heavily around that regime...but if you tell me that bringing it back to 0, it gets better,I do...but I wonder,I'm at the point that the sense of increasing the maps pedals 5200giri if the torque limiter I keep it at 0 ??
for the egr I have seen that there are "cakes", I ingegnarmi more forward ;)
anyway, I changed again following your advice...here is the 4 .mod attachment...

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bmw320cd
02-12-2014, 03:23
hi guys....
I would like to know that the pressures can I keep in my astra 1.7 cdti 101cv without fap... originally runs with 1bar peak and 0.9 constant...
with the various files that I made, the one that most meets, I have a turbo pressure of 1.3 bar peak (including an overboost), and then down "very" slowly and gradually to about 1.2-1.15 bar.... in addition to the 4 thousand rpm in 4th and 5th gear, I have those pressures... what do you say, are within the limits?

https://www.youtube*****/watch?v=lM7iPleZgRQ

thanks to early

bmw320cd
03-12-2014, 16:24
anyone? as the turbo pressure seems to be high, or it's okay?

Driver
03-12-2014, 21:40

bmw320cd
04-12-2014, 01:15
eh the file I had help from another friend of mine, so I don't know if I can post it,I should ask him,does not seem to me correct in his comparison...
so how ? now the car is a bomb, in the 80-120 in 4th gear I gained 3 seconds flat, using gps (first 9,9 s - post-map 6.9 s) not to mention the extension... (always within the limits of a diesel of course)
my only doubt was the pressure turbo, I thought they were altine... but if I confirm that they are within the limits I leave everything as is, no? since they are well pleased with how it goes

fabiovts88
04-12-2014, 15:16
with what do you write ? read this ecu?

bmw320cd
04-12-2014, 15:32
bdm ;)
you can only write in the serial, but not read them... for me yet with my friend I do everything at bdm

bmw320cd
12-12-2014, 00:55
the machine goes into recovery I don't know why :( error p0234 turbo overpressure
it is only at the top with higher gears (4th and up over the 3500-4000 thousand rpm)

Driver
12-12-2014, 12:31
If not put the file we do not know where is the error! You surely have peaks that exceed the pressure of the limiter, with the consequent recovery!

bmw320cd
12-12-2014, 13:38
there's the attached file...

Driver
12-12-2014, 20:24
According to me in some maps there are increases in exaggerated! Over 40%. Have been touched many maps out the driver. This your friend that you made the map you have not heard to expose the problem? However, again according to me increments exaggerated! :)

bmw320cd
12-12-2014, 20:59
you told me to check in order
- tubes depression turbine (changed,one was cracked,wouldn't it ? nothing changed)
- an overboost solenoid valve (proven,does not change anything,throw the original)
- map sensor (I tried not to change anything,put back in the original)
- westagate (controlled and goes well)
- geometry turbine (to check,may be seized or blocked, and at the top sends in recovery for over-pressure)

Driver
12-12-2014, 22:12
But putting the map ori the defect is doing it? If it does not the problem, and the map.

bmw320cd
13-12-2014, 02:56
it goes the same in recovery...but to give you an example in the recovery goes there after 15 seconds that are at the bottom with the original map
while with the mapped file goes there after just 5-10 seconds
we also tried the file .ori nerfed (with the turbine running at 0.7 bar) and it did the same...

max75
13-12-2014, 14:32
but this problem ? born after you put your hands to the ecu ,or did you always had!

bmw320cd
13-12-2014, 15:00
this unfortunately, I cannot answer with certainty...because the first map,the machine is not gained by a lot of the time...

Driver
13-12-2014, 21:02
Controls the geometry of the turbine!

bmw320cd
14-12-2014, 03:32
the last possibilty is that...we tried as well to "play" a little bit with the geometry using the map,but not ? nothing changed...so I think something "mechanical" right?

Driver
14-12-2014, 10:36
It is possible that the geometry is a bit blocked, and then the face of the pressure peaks that exceed the limiter.

bmw320cd
14-12-2014, 14:22
but the strange thing is that there are no peaks apparent..i.e. if you see in the video I posted, the pressure remains fairly constant...

Driver
14-12-2014, 14:52
You should try with a diagnosis to see when you're in the recovery of the maximum peak pressure that comes along, but safe, in addition to the limit if not, it should not be in recovery

bmw320cd
14-12-2014, 15:48
the limiters have them stand up well to the test... but blocked the same...
however, the pressure ? that video... in fact ? the screen recovery registered

bmw320cd
15-12-2014, 02:10
ah also what are the ste maps out the driver? I don't understand... the mapper ? one serious who knows her... she made a large number of machines, and even the same file on another machine identical to my by absolutely no problem...

bmw320cd
18-12-2014, 01:53
eh then if the map turbo pressure not ? been touched, and even the limiter, I could try to raise the limiter turbo no?
I need a solution ... :(

bmw320cd
21-12-2014, 04:17
guys no one who knows you recommend to help me? before you spend 80€ to disassemble the turbine, etc?
I repeat the question,but if I raise the turbo limiters of about 100-150 points , in the area where it goes into protection, I'm not supposed to solve?

bmw320cd
23-12-2014, 19:17
no one that I can answer?

Driver
25-12-2014, 09:17
If it goes into recovery even with the map ori the problem is not in the map then and needless to circumvent the problem by the map. You must first fix the problem and, therefore, put on the map. The engine mounts the butterflies swirl on the manifold? If you check that to work well.

bmw320cd
25-12-2014, 15:26
no, they will not fit the butterflies swirl... them fit astra h only the 1.9 cdti 150 and 120 hp that I know of...

bmw320cd
29-12-2014, 14:35
guys I did remove the fan to clean the variable geometry...well the geometry was really dirty and caked,but even after cleaning and lubrication, I have not solved anything...always recovery in 5a at 4300-4500 rpm at full throttle...
here are some photos of the geometry.... I'm at the point I don't really know where to head banging... if someone can help me,by giving an in-depth look at the mod files that I posted thank you

cinqueturbo
29-12-2014, 15:54
Record the Westegate.. from one or two turn to tighten, you will see that solve.. the file has not seen him yet..

bmw320cd
29-12-2014, 16:15
Record the Westegate.. from one or two turn to tighten, you will see that solve.. the file has not seen him yet..

you could look at it? thanks again
however, for "record" the westagate, which screw do you mean? in the image you see well the only two screw dell actuator geometry...
you say the first bolt or the second bolt?

cinqueturbo
29-12-2014, 17:52
The auction of the westegate pneumatic..

bmw320cd
29-12-2014, 20:04
ah the auction ok ok understood... but I have to screw or unscrew the rod? that slide down to the westgate or in the opposite direction?
http://s.sbito.it/images/64/6466857668.jpg
tell me

cinqueturbo
29-12-2014, 20:17
ah the auction ok ok understood... but I have to screw or unscrew the rod? that slide down to the westgate or in the opposite direction?
http://s.sbito.it/images/64/6466857668.jpg
tell me

Pulls-Make-Trim.. of a two-turn.. and test..

bmw320cd
16-01-2015, 01:23
I was advised to do so... you will lose the calibration of the westgate....