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Exelion1986
15-08-2014, 15:16
Hello to all
a friend of mine has brought to my attention a product that I personally had never seen
the above-mentioned form is on sale on amazon, both for diesel cars than petrol
in practice, it would seem a normal add-on module, but this should be connected to the obd
someone knows something?
but ? can vary the engine parameters in real-time via the obd?
I am personally a p? skeptical about this unit...
leandro89
15-08-2014, 22:13
thinking about it a bit on you could also do this why? from obd can you see the rail pressure, air mass, etc.
Exelion1986
15-08-2014, 22:50
certainly, from that point of view, it is, rather, that way you can read a lot of parameters
but then through the obd you can change the parameters in real time?
as reported by the ecu with the engine? if you can then the whole ? feasible, otherwise I can not explain how to operate this module
very likely the interface as a unit parallel to the original, if you read on their site they say that it takes about 200 km to fit in, and I really do not like and I do not give the benefits described.
riccardo59
16-08-2014, 12:41
The distributor of these units ? the racechipgalaxy Dublin Republic of Ireland for? I can't say anything as I have not seen it around
rodcraft86
16-08-2014, 13:17
according to me ? the usual little 4 money, the fact that acts by obd and not directly from the pressure sensors, ? only a paliativo
Exelion1986
16-08-2014, 21:56
ok thanks
as I thought ? the usual form that promises the seas and the mountains, but then what ? everything to see that the real advantages of
but then it signals that the ecu sends to the engine traveling on the can network? sorry, but electronics are a p? fasting and I would like to understand better the logic of the communication of the car
rodcraft86
17-08-2014, 13:45
a module can? act on 2 or 3 parameters at a maximum and does not allow optimal performance, especially in terms of reliability? in the long term, I prefer always an accurate mapping from the best performance while maintaining a standard? top
riccardo59
17-08-2014, 18:29
Sorry, but if the data is traveling on the can network, the concept of the module on obd may be valid, and very functional.-
the data travel over the can bus or k-line for reading and writing from the diagnostic socket, but a module that reads and varies in real time, not ? easy thing, very likely deceives signals.
rodcraft86
18-08-2014, 14:18
and most importantly, the cost ? too low compared to a normal module of quality
Polabarth
20-08-2014, 21:01
In principle, the modules that hook you and sensor type in the form marelli can do damage?
rodcraft86
20-08-2014, 21:27
much depends on the degree of intervention they offer, their purpose ? to lower the signal of the sensor rail and turbo by believing in the ecu that tyre pressures are lower than normal and, therefore, the ecu compensates for this gap increasing, pi? ? the lowering of the signal and the greater the pressure, beyond a certain limit that you can't? anyway go and why? the ecu goes into recovery but gi? avvicinadosi that threshold you are likely to have long-term problems.
Polabarth
20-08-2014, 23:16
I was looking at the magneti marelli for the 500 Abarth turbo petrol pu? the damage is done?
rodcraft86
20-08-2014, 23:38
we do not know, should be measured with the maximum pressures obtained after assembly and compared with those of a map made as it should be
Polabarth
20-08-2014, 23:39
I believe that you come around to the 1.5 against the 1.2
Exelion1986
20-08-2014, 23:57
sorry a question... how much is this form?
you have not taken into consideration a mapping rather?
riccardo59
21-08-2014, 07:35
these modules will surely come products in china for 1 euro per kg for this have a very low price.-
Polabarth
21-08-2014, 10:16
Are on the 400 was an alternative plug and play to the map on the workshop, me recommended it why? Marelli collaborates with the Abarth
Exelion1986
21-08-2014, 12:14
at that price I would say the mapping of the safe
years ago I bought a module for diesel, not the economic ones, in fact it cost 360 €
he also had the chance? to customize the two maps work on turbo pressure, and the rail
but the pi? nor less, and could act only on these two parameters, and to make the car decently, I had to adjust it quite high, to the limit of the recovery
thus, in practice when schiacciavo the accelerator at times I went out the pencils from the drain by a lot of smoke was
it was clear that he was working completely outside the parameters, but to force, the adjustment was too coarse and also if I was pi? low the effect was not very noticeable
additional modules for gasoline I've never tried, but, considering that these engines are more? sensitive to certain parameters, personally I do not trust too
Polabarth
21-08-2014, 12:25
Ok thanks I thought that magneti marelli would make things more series
Exelion1986
21-08-2014, 13:43
not ? that are not serious, and maybe the ecu is not ? even wicked, to be honest I could not tell you
it was a diesel, and the cost may be a little I would say try it, ill go have thrown away a €100
but if I have to spend 400 € and I have no doubt
Polabarth
21-08-2014, 14:05
Ok the advantage ? who has the remote control, you can choose whether to turn it off or the map 1 and map 2 pi? aggressive
rodcraft86
21-08-2014, 15:08
I also had the opportunity to personally see the work of an add-on module on a bmw 320d, 2007, as part of the turbo whistled cheerfully, after about 3 months from the assembly began to have problems of irregularity? to the minimum and dpf clogged, proven I personally just mounted the module is calibrated by the boy, was very strong, no difference compared to a mapping you have done well, for? after 3 months the bitter sentence, apart from the turbo and had the post with a crazy game, 2 injectors were practically gone, and over 2500 rpm nebulizzavano well, has regenerated them and did review the turbo for the modest sum of € 900 including labor
Polabarth
21-08-2014, 15:21
Cabbage maybe ? better to let it go but on the turbo petrol is not c'? no experience ? I read some tests on process not seemed to me to be evil
Exelion1986
21-08-2014, 16:06
I had it mounted at 35000 km... 45000 I threw away the turbine
then other facts 45000 without problems, maybe ? state a case why? the new one made a noise very different
I'm sorry but on the benza I have not had the experiences? if the modules fail to do damage to the diesel turbo petrol engine, it also takes less
riccardo59
21-08-2014, 20:47
Guys sorry but today I have seen an add-on module race chip samsung is attached to the obd, on a grande punto 1.3 mjt 75 cv, then exudes a warmth crazy hot tin never shuts off even when you turn off the key, the customer still has not made and 200 km, and they have not yet found no improvement of the fuel consumption on the acceleration.-
Polabarth
21-08-2014, 21:11
Ok I understand I give up ;-)
rodcraft86
21-08-2014, 23:06
with that money you do make a map discreet and you are set
Polabarth
21-08-2014, 23:46
Ok I do? put the files of the ss
I follow with interest. I just ordered the form of eobd for diesel engines. I read that it takes 200 miles to adapt to driving style and that serves to optimize the performance....the increase in power is laughable.
The concern is the cost of € 3.50 including shipping.
I await the opinion of someone who has already tried it or has any news of tests have already been made.
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