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simone82
30-07-2014, 21:04
Hi all,do you know if exists the possibility? to delete the antitunig from bosch edc 17 c46 and you can then write to a serial port?
voglioimparare
31-07-2014, 12:05
what car are we talking about? that tool uses to read and write? a little more info....
if I'm not mistaken the magpro up to date it has this feature
cawadany
05-08-2014, 14:24
I have heard that you can? do, and need to read in the boot.
Hello
yes, exact, if he can do that, but to scrivire, the need to interface the original, x17, cmdtec, etc
You can? do.... The laws of the
Change. Should be a bit to bring to zero, the re-enter in the boot and then you can read and write to the serial port. Try posting the file golds that tomorrow, we know it a look.
Streetracer90
31-08-2014, 14:39
That car? I would be interested to know the same thing x vag 2.0 tdi 170cv
Hello edc17c46viene mounted fine vag is 140 170cv
I don't know if there is a way to remove antituning you can read in boot mode unlocking but then you always have to type in bott, I think that a possibility? to do immo off............
The tprot you can? delete from the sw. ? need the first time you open and read in boot.. once it is deleted it reads and writes to the socket... If the programmer
Allows
The tprot you can? delete from the sw. ? need the first time you open and read in boot.. once it is deleted it reads and writes to the socket... If the programmer
Allows
Sorry, but you usually home do you use to make this release..........
C'? some sw that the
Delete... in The end ? a bit change.. If the admins allow me place an example of the Passat 170cv edc17c46
It would not hurt if you could make an example.............
Streetracer90
01-09-2014, 19:53
If the trustees give permission to attach. Guys do not ? nothing striking. A bit set at zero
Streetracer90
02-09-2014, 18:34
Attach, then the maximum eliminate..
I asked for permission ,now place the example the change ? to 00bb3c the other areas are chcks
legendaryslave
03-09-2014, 02:07
I asked for permission ,now place the example the change ? to 00bb3c the other areas are chcks
Thanks for the condividione
I asked for permission ,now place the example the change ? to 00bb3c the other areas are chcks
you've tried then to read and write by obd.
I asked for permission ,now place the example the change ? to 00bb3c the other areas are chcks
Thanks for Sharing...............
Have you tested if it works.............
Not me personally. However, I must try it today on a golf gtd CR.. However, the solution ? ok
sa80libero
03-09-2014, 09:04
if tested and works, and a good solution....
has anyone tested the solution?
I try to download the file but it tells me that I do not have the permission , would you know what is the reason ? thanks
And only x not to give the material to anyone who registers, but only to those who intervenes and brings out the life of the forum. You will find, however, everything in the regulation hello
Perfect , thanks for the info anyway motivation legitimate)
matteo23
11-09-2014, 21:21
Do you know if the same solution can? be applied to other EDC17..?
The Cio? sar? a solution that is 'universal'..?
The solution for the c46 is not good for the other edc17.. However you can? to do in almost all
Engine83
12-09-2014, 10:25
hello, once you have deleted the bit, over the ones that you can read, the first time must be programmed in the open, or immediately in the serial. hello, thanks
it's always worthwhile to read it in the boot edit it, rewrite it in the boot and then try to read and write from the serial port.
Engine83
12-09-2014, 10:45
right
thank you very much :-)
Streetracer90
21-09-2014, 13:42
Then if it all ? fine, I should be able to read it by obd? Or gi? before you read it and x to test the operation, you should try to write it?
Read and write... The problem ? if you have an interface that is able to read and write by obd
Streetracer90
21-09-2014, 16:44
They told me that with kess v2 is
The original.. Or fw4.034.....
With the latest relase of kess is not c'? 't even need to read it in the bdm , it is directly in the serial
With the latest relase of kess is not c'? 't even need to read it in the bdm , it is directly in the serial
first of all, it reads in the bdm, but in bootmode, then specify the kess we speak ,ori or the clone.
read the K-Suite 2.08 (http://www.alientech-to.it/index.php/it/notizie/aggiornamenti-software/936-k-suite-2-8)
first of all, it reads in the bdm, but in bootmode, then specify the kess we speak ,ori or the clone.
of course, the golds , the clones do not yet have this version ( just about)
The show... Not c'? pi? need to unlock with ktag... Everything from serial... Bell tool really
and gi? the kess v2 f? fear , what a cock
Be.... I think I have them all and the two don't hurt either
it be obvious the best two tools rather than one , but the kess ? the kess , in my opinion, the best tool currently on the market
Streetracer90
21-09-2014, 19:53
Oakley, clone fw 3.099
With that fw you have not enabled the read and write by obd
Streetracer90
21-09-2014, 22:49
But using J-link, you can update to the firmware that you say?
The show... Not c'? pi? need to unlock with ktag... Everything from serial... Bell tool really
Hello
Comme cuasi always, the first interface to do this are the CMD.
Br.
In theory, the jlink reads and writes to the micro so I need the fw and sw 2.07
Streetracer90
22-09-2014, 21:39
Are they located?
I asked for permission ,now place the example of the change is to 00bb3c the other areas are chcks
Sorry but i can only read the first two pages. Is this the solution with 11068 and does it work for you
Good evening, I'm planning to buy the magpro X17 full . friends who bought then changed and back on the same.
peppino I don't give a damn because I'm a moderator on this forum, but if you want info and opinions on this tool, you need to open a discussion in its own section, not here in diesel vehicles ;-)
you are absolutely right, I had written the wrong forum,
for the elimination antituning edc 17c46 , magpro to largely overcome that problem
and I thought the purchase of the same, only that I answered in the wrong way.
With the kess you can not read the file, but you can only write. On the edc17 vag when you save l ecu id automatically
You saved the file ori. For? that file is from their escape. If you want to read it you have to open it and let it in
Bootmode.
With the kess you can not read the file, but you can only write. On the edc17 vag when you save l ecu id automatically
You saved the file ori. For? that file is from their escape. If you want to read it you have to open it and let it in
Bootmode.
if you have the original in the latest updates make it to the serial port.
yes, as I said. the write but not read.
But those units do not have the Tprot and count the nr. programming
112rosso
30-11-2014, 20:01
I'm sorry Mikigor how do you write a thing not previously read in?
I'm sorry Mikigor how do you write a thing not previously read in?
And that's the pu? seem strange, but it happens often.
There are interfaces like the galletto 2 that leggealcune ecu only "virtually" what? after you have identified the ecu, it creates a file that comes from a database.
You edit the file and re-enter, but if you go to reacquire, you'll always have the virtual file, that is, without changes.
is to say that some programs, such as galletto 2 or others have a database ,
perhaps with a connection to the internet ?
there are some ecu is not all that can't be read on the serial line. Well here is on this tool saves you time why? via id the ecu will automatically save the file ori without having to open it.
No you don't need any internet connection, the file has already? inside the instrument, and he drive you detect it.
From a few months have also put in for the edc17 vw-Audi .
This thing of the detection of the file Ori via ID ? really fantastic,
of course, perhaps ? only recommended with the Original equipment.
However, for the elimination antituning edc 17c46 in most cases you have to open the ecu.
(First of all, a dear greeting), then I appended to your observation, and I add a consideration that may be granted:
Since? with the rooster chinese I read without problems, in a handful of minutes, a tiguan 170CV EDC17, I should be able also to write via OBD?
On the screen of the cock I want to see the number of programming...
If he had had the antituning, I wouldn't have read it in the OBD, right?
(First of all, a dear greeting), then I appended to your observation, and I add a consideration that may be granted:
Since? with the rooster chinese I read without problems, in a handful of minutes, a tiguan 170CV EDC17, I should be able also to write via OBD?
On the screen of the cock I want to see the number of programming...
If he had had the antituning, I wouldn't have read it in the OBD, right?
not ? said, some of the you can read, but at the time of writing the blocks, the council ? always the one, open it, and do it in the boot of the tour.
I fully agree with Ugoboss, after having read in the bench test of reads and writes in the obd for the next control units
And that's the pu? seem strange, but it happens often.
There are interfaces like the galletto 2 that leggealcune ecu only "virtually" what? after you have identified the ecu, it creates a file that comes from a database.
You edit the file and re-enter, but if you go to reacquire, you'll always have the virtual file, that is, without changes.
Hello,
I blocatto two edc17 with CMDtec, to write the virtual read.
Une EDC17C46 to seat the?n 2.0 tdi 170CV, years 2012.
Une EDC17C08 Hyundai I40, 1.7 crdi 115hp, 2012.
In the two case, the virtual read iera valid for the ecu.
But let's talk about the instrumentation of the original or clone? If gold support what you have said? At the end, as you have
Solved? The virtual read edc17 with kess goes over to the vw group, for the other non c'
rodcraft86
08-12-2014, 15:25
the c46 are quite confusing, some are locked hopelessly through the obd, just doing the ecu id ? well build a e xxx special with the needles in the spring, weld-on to card pu? be risky and difficult, in addition to the 250? temperature, breakage may occur irreparable
But let's talk about the instrumentation of the original or clone? If gold support what you have said? At the end, as you have
Solved? The virtual read edc17 with kess goes over to the vw group, for the other non c'?.
Hello
I speak de intrumenti the original.
Are the original user of cmd after 8 years.
In support ani said, as always, a problem of your computer, the usb V3, Pentium I5, car, mod files, etc, etc.
This are the assitance here recibe of cuasi all the tools the original always here to one probema.
I fixed that in the two cases, including many hours to find cualque file that is read in the tricore to reset the ecu, after finding the file, with immo-off in the two cases.
Hello,
I blocatto two edc17 with CMDtec, to write the virtual read.
Une EDC17C46 to seat the?n 2.0 tdi 170CV, years 2012.
Une EDC17C08 Hyundai I40, 1.7 crdi 115hp, 2012.
In the two case, the virtual read iera valid for the ecu.
but how did you manage to get them back?
vag 170cv CR mounted on leon 2010 edc17c46 ?
From the 2.08 you can do from serial with Kess..... Or at least so it is written.... I am usually unlock them with Ktag and then get them by serial... that goes Wrong, it displeases inside the backup
because with the kess you can not do in the boot ? only with ktag or fgtech do in the boot?
Of course, even with kess
but there is the risk of locking the ecu? if you make the backup first boot and then you do it in serial and it's the antituning, rewriting the backup in boot mode it takes.
The cp14 and c46 should be unlocked with Ktag.. basically deleted the write lock.... Even if in the documents from 2.08, there is written, that is no longer necessary to make the patch with Ktag.... However it is better to do the backup
while, however, if one is not interested in unlocking them can do so safely with kess?
but what I wanted to say , I put that by mistake, the file does not work or does not disable the tprot , rewriting the backup and the recovery?
because from what I know, if to say violates a antituning manco with the backup resumes
You can do it in the boot.... The antituning you can lock by serial.... Making them in the boot I have never heard of that block... But rewriting the entire backup, in theory, you should retake it... But nm I am sure 100%
Hello to all; I'm intruding into this thread hoping to fill some doubt on this blessed anti-tuning.....I would like to ask you if to delete it just write to the bank once and after that is also accessible from the obd? or when writing, you should bring a few bits back to 0?? I know that it has already been mentioned, but there are many conflicting opinions and I would like to understand how to deal with it....
by obd also read-only can start the antituning??
thanks in advance
in theory, reading is not part of the antituning, among other things, if you re-enter the ori after something went wrong, should restart
perfect thanks for the answer; and instead to delete it? without having to read bdm? there are some solution ?
sorry but there no one that can make me understand how to move to avoid this blocking?
thanks in advance
Hi, I would be curious too, I deepen this aspect, I am new in this field and I'm slowly informing on edc16 (my car has a edc16c39), but I read a lot about the new edc17 and this famous antituning, I've often read that spoke to disassemble precisely, the control unit, connect a cable (I seem to have understood that to make a jumper, but I don't know where) to enable the boot mode and then proceed to read and write from the serial port.
But is it really so?
Here, however, I have read that you need to read it in bdm, but actually I did not understand very much about it.
Only if some questions may sembrase stupid or obvious, but are not yet expert in mareria.
Greetings
MCDJ90
the edc17 is not the laws in the bdm, but in bootmode, each family edc17 has a way to go in bootmode, as far as the antituning many times it is the same tool that you edit the file to read, so you can write in serial.
thanks ugoboss... in the case that they do not do the instrument ? in bootmode you over always right?
you do it in bootmode, follow the one that tells you the tool and you should have no problems.
I always read with pleasure of people who write without knowledge of the facts, without the atrezzo and has never seen the ecu etc....
First of all the KTAG unlock from the Backup TO only the EDC17 VAG CP14 and some CP20, EDC17C46 not unlock a bat not having the button unlock.
Prt 199 VAG EDC17, best with tips in the spring or the CNF1 remains in your hand, 2 Boot bridge + boot gnd grey and 1 CNF1 blue 2 positive 1 negative the CAN L and CAN H, or e xxx EDC17 and you avoid pinout.
The fairy-tale finesce, KTAG ORI or cinomarocchino not the clone, and then starting from 2, the hw the same, is that you write BCK ALL in the restore, or single file, which in this case, no MPC TC1797 + Eprom E2P integrated in the micro, the car is not starting, NOT THE CLONE!!!!
The fact that the kess is not the law, it lacks key laws in their computers, only ID,WRITE, RECOVERY
For your virtual file or provided by ALientech I put the behind seen that the ecu has TPROT 7 or higher, or locked, or after the ID unit is not identified.....
ONLY IF YOU have RAISED TRPOT AT the COUNTER, you can ONLY write by OBD...
Or immo off, since it's not clone...
Because it simply does not read the copy correctly, the whole area OTP of starter, key frame, etc...
The frame is written correctly, even after immo off on Micro.
But on your picture you will read IMMOBILIZER ACTIVE and the car wont start
On the topic of how to remove TPROT, the tool EDC17 MPPS works evil, it does not leverage all on these.
As areas and cells EDC17C46 and C64 are the same Group VAG obvious..
Good job
MPPS V21 EUR not in CAN, but in the UDS reads and writes always subject to ANTITUNING OFF 3core mode......
then what is the instrument that does a good job?..
Ktag for maps of the dpf and egr.
BUT not the clone
NON-law Areas OTP, OneTimeProgramming, so if you need to work on the same ecu no problem, if you need to make a clone or immoOff or not, even with BackupALL
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