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everyname
02-07-2014, 15:20
I am doing practice in recognizing the maps on major EDC16C39 a Fiat Idea 1.9 JTDM and I would like to ask you an opinion on those that are able to identify, and if maybe it's me ? missed some important as the limiters (e.g. I have not found the maps SOI).

Here they are, I added dots interoogativi where I pi? doubts:

Address - To-Name - Axis
$C11BE - Driver Wish - Torque (RPM / Nm)
$C1402 - Driver Wish - Torque (RPM / Nm)
$C1E94 - Torque Limiter (?) - Torque (??? / ???)
$C2344 - EGR - Air Flow (IQ / RPM)
$C2588 - EGR - Air Flow (IQ / RPM)
$C27C8 - Air Flow (?) - Air Flow (IQ / RPM)
$C3DC4 - EGR - Air Flow ? (IQ ? / -)
$C3E90 - EGR - Air Flow ? (IQ ? / -)
$CA79E - Friction torque (?) - Torque (Temp / RPM)
$CAA46 - Torque Limiter by RPM - Torque (RPM / -)
$CAD50 - IQ Limiter by Temp - IQ (Temp / RPM)
$CAE14 - IQ Limiter (?) - IQ ( % / RPM)
$CBCEE - Smoke Limiter (Lambda () (?) - Lambda (Air Flow / RPM)
$CBF32 - Smoke Limiter (Lambda () (?) - Lambda (Air Flow / RPM)
$CC62E - Nm to IQ - IQ (Torque / RPM)
$CC872 - Nm to IQ - IQ (Torque / RPM)
$CCAB6 - Nm to IQ - IQ (Torque / RPM)
$D9FDA - Duration - ?CR (IQ / IQ-pressure)
$DC136 - ? - ??? (IQ / RPM)
$DDE64 - Boost Request - Air Pressure (IQ / RPM)
$DE0A8 - Boost Request - Air Pressure (IQ / RPM)
$DE2EC - Boost Request - Air Pressure (IQ / RPM)
$DE572 - Boost Limiter - Air Pressure (Atmospheric Pressure / RPM)
$DE772 - SVBL - Air Pressure
$E0BE6 - ? - ???
$E20A0 - Rail Pressur Limiter by RPM (?) - IQ Pressure (RPM / - )
$E232E - SVBL Error - IQ Pressure
$E24CE - SVRPL - IQ Pressure
$E2680 - Rail Pressure - IQ Pressure (IQ / RPM)
$E2A8C - Rail Pressure - IQ Pressure (IQ / RPM)
$E2F54 - Rail Pressure - IQ Pressure (IQ / RPM)
$E32EE - Rail Pressure Limiter by Temp - IQ Pressure (Temp / RPM)
$E339C - Rail Pressure Limiter by IQ - IQ Pressure (IQ / RPM)
$E3E5C - ? - IQ - (??? / ???)
$E3F00 - ? - IQ - (??? / ???)
$E41EC - ? - IQ - (??? / ???)

file ori deleted, the file ori should be posted in the database if there were no gi?, and, in the various discussions it must be pasted the link with the number of posts

jacktheripper2
03-07-2014, 17:49
I don't have the pc to open the map but I'll just tell:
$C1E94, if ? just after the pedal is not ? a limiter and not be touched
In general, the map turbo pressure 'useful' ? only one, the one before the limiter, same thing for maps of the rail. The other ? for the regenerations. I say in general? why? you have put 3. Also the map nm/iq usually ? only 1 or maximum 2. There are 2 limiters iq, one depending on the temperature of diesel fuel (which you don't need to raise it up to 110mm3) and the one before that on the basis of the engine rpm (limiter for the high pressure pump). Pressure limiters rail before the rail maps there are, there are only 5 bits, 2 to 1720 bar and 3 at 1750 bar. After the limiters rail there are the map of the torque required at start-up and a map of the swirl, the rest is worth nothing.
I forgot, c'? still another limiter iq, but for maps with stock turbo is not because ? to 100mm3, is located immediately after the torque limiter. The advances are before the time of injection, we are 2 blocks from the 5 maps in a row, the second block are the advances during regeneration so there is no need to touch them.

everyname
04-07-2014, 16:49
Thanks jacktheripper2 , valuable information!
Surge Rail I think I have found 3, and have different values from each other..
I'm presenting the list revisited maps, leaving only those which you want to edit. Is something missing?

Address Name
C11BE - Drivers Wish
C1402 - Drivers Wish
C1CDC - IQ limiter 100mm3
C3D5E - EGR hysteresis
C3E90 - EGR hysteresis
C6BB0 - Torque limiter 500Nm
CA65C - Torque limiter 500Nm
CA9D6 - IQ limiter 100mm3
CAA46 - Torque Limiter Main
CAAAC - Torque limiter 500Nm
CAB12 - IQ limiter 100mm3
CAD50 - IQ Limiter on Engine Temp
CB058 - IQ limiter on Speed
CB862 - Smoke Limiter AFR
CBAA6 - Smoke Limiter AFR
CBCEE - Smoke Limiter AFR
CBF32 - Smoke Limiter AFR
CC62E - Nm to IQ
CC872 - Nm to IQ
CCAB6 - Nm to IQ
CDE3E - IQ Limiter on RPM
CDE7A - IQ Limiter on Engine Temp
CF058 - SOI
CF29C - SOI
CF4E0 - SOI
CF724 - SOI
CF968 - SOI
D9FDA - Duration
DDE64 - Boost Request
DE0A8 - Boost Request
DE2EC - Boost Request
DE572 - Boost Limiter by ATM
DE772 - SVBL
E1DB6 - SVRPL (1720 bar)
E232E - SVRPL Error (1750 bar)
E2388 - SVRPL (1450 bar)
E2A8C - Rail Pressure
E2F54 - Rail Pressure
E32EE - Rail Pressure Limiter by Temp
E339C - Rail Pressure Limiter by IQ
E3A76 - Cranking IQ

everyname
07-07-2014, 21:48
Here the file ORI (https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=8214&d=1404762189)

jacktheripper2
08-07-2014, 15:52
Thanks jacktheripper2 , valuable information!
Surge Rail I think I have found 3, and have different values from each other..
I'm presenting the list revisited maps, leaving only those which you want to edit. Is something missing?

Address Name
C11BE - Drivers Wish
C1402 - Drivers Wish
C1CDC - IQ limiter 100mm3. NO NEED
C3D5E - EGR hysteresis
C3E90 - EGR hysteresis
C6BB0 - Torque limiter 500Nm. NO NEED
CA65C - Torque limiter 500Nm. NO NEED
CA9D6 - IQ limiter 100mm3 is NOT needed (at least on my file is not there are of them, and even to many other edc16c39)
AA46 - Torque Limiter Main
CAAAC - Torque limiter 500Nm NOT NEED
CAB12 - IQ limiter 100mm3
CAD50 - IQ Limiter on Engine Temp
BETWEEN the ONE ABOVE AND BELOW SHOULD BE ANOTHER iq limiter on the engine speed and the 'best working point' (8192)
CB058 - IQ limiter on Speed
CB862 - Smoke Limiter AFR
CBAA6 - Smoke Limiter AFR
CBCEE - Smoke Limiter AFR REGENERATION
CBF32 - Smoke Limiter AFR REGENERATION
CC62E - Nm to IQ
CC872 - Nm to IQ
CCAB6 - Nm to IQ (I THINK IN REGENERATION)
CDE3E - IQ Limiter on RPM
CDE7A - IQ Limiter on Engine Temp, TEMP, FUEL, WATER, Up to 110mm3 pu? stay stock
CF058 - SOI
CF29C - SOI
CF4E0 - SOI
CF724 - SOI
CF968 - SOI
D9FDA - Duration
DDE64 - Boost Request IN the REGENERATION
DE0A8 - Boost Request I THINK AS ABOVE
DE2EC - Boost Request
DE572 - Boost Limiter by ATM
DE772 - SVBL
E1DB6 - SVRPL (1720 bar)
E232E - SVRPL Error (1750 bar)
E2388 - SVRPL (1450 bar) does NOT ? A BIT OF A LIMITATION
E2A8C - Rail Pressure IN the REGENERATION
E2F54 - Rail Pressure
E32EE - Rail Pressure Limiter by Temp
E339C - Rail Pressure Limiter by IQ
E3A76 - Cranking IQ

The comments that I added I put them without opening the file, but the edc16 I know it well by now. Bit and various things to 500nm are not needed, so the bp on the map quantity? injected ? at 500nm and you don't need to touch it. Indeed, of the bits, to me gave error if raised (I found 2 or 3 500-510nm).
Ps: these things you say to the owner of 1.9 with edc16c39 with 600nm rolled. ;)
If I've touched I don't think your serve. :D

everyname
09-07-2014, 20:41
600 Nm should be a nice tractor congratulations!
I read your comments, thanks, I place the map if you want to give it a look I would be grateful.
This Fiat has no FAP, I think that the 3 Boost map and the 3 Nm to IQ are identical between them.
Instead, the maps smoke, rail and DW are different between them, I don't know if c'? a reason..
Of the 2 DW can you tell me what'? the one that is used?

jacktheripper2
09-07-2014, 21:44
I sincerely do all the DW. Even if you should use only the last two.

everyname
09-07-2014, 22:02
Here is my first map :)