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maik_93
01-07-2014, 13:54

Metropolis
02-07-2014, 13:51
I would be interested I also to raise the minimum...Thanks a lot in advance for the help...

maik_93
02-07-2014, 21:22

Metropolis
02-07-2014, 21:35

danny677
03-07-2014, 00:04
map accelerator pedal (enrichment in acceleration with the titanium) in the first column, give a 5% if it has values, if it is zero, proceed giving 5 points for a time finch? the minimum reaches the desired value.

maik_93
03-07-2014, 01:04
Thanks 1000 danny!! X the failure, you know something? I have seen that c'? a guide on offlimits but I'm not sure we even for edc16

danny677
03-07-2014, 02:32
x the failure, you need to work in 2D, where found ? positioned at the last corner of the press turbo, to follow is a curve in which the apex presenter? decimal values around 2500 points or 1500mbar ( roughly 1.5 bar pressure ) alzala a 500 points and you should resolve

sergiot
03-07-2014, 07:57
map accelerator pedal (enrichment in acceleration with the titanium) in the first column, give a 5% if it has values, if it is zero, proceed giving 5 points for a time finch? the minimum reaches the desired value.

WRONG!!!
ATTENTION!!!! in the maps of the accelerator pedal, the 0 (zero) should never be touched. ? a matter of safety, if the " 0 " becomes equal to 0 the motor then does not slow down the pi?
THE minimum you can? change, but not with this method, among other very inaccurate.
c'? a specific map.

maik_93
03-07-2014, 09:28
Could you tell us what

ugoboss
03-07-2014, 12:24
Could you tell us what'??

without seeing the file, and without even knowing what car ?, not, it seems too much to ask.

maik_93
03-07-2014, 13:34
Edc16c39 ugoboss...alfa romeo 16v in general...after place a file....I asked in general xk could be helpful to other people

ugoboss
03-07-2014, 13:45
Edc16c39 ugoboss...alfa romeo 16v in general...after place a file....I asked in general xk could be helpful to other people

if ? a edc19c39 of the fiat group, you find at the end of the map just before the map in advance of the aviammento, I asked about that car was the why are not all the same, ? always best to specify.

maik_93
03-07-2014, 13:57
here is a file alfa 147 150 hp

ugoboss
03-07-2014, 15:02
the map is from 1E7310 TO 1E7366

maik_93
03-07-2014, 21:15
Thanks a lot ugoboss! And the problem of overpressure know nothing about?

Metropolis
03-07-2014, 22:11

maik_93
04-07-2014, 00:07
Among some within the computer and see if I can help you

maik_93
04-07-2014, 00:30
I do not have the driver for this machine :/

Metropolis
04-07-2014, 02:45
It uses those of the bravo ;) tomorrow I tell you what

maik_93
04-07-2014, 08:36
Use the titanium and automatically not me open them...manually are not yet able to understand how it is XD

Metropolis
04-07-2014, 14:30
I also use Titanium...when it finishes do the auto search, you can select the brand and model...I use those of the Fiat Bravo 2 driver B202_699


ugoboss
04-07-2014, 18:28
we don't need no drivers, if you look in 2d the address that I gave above for the other file, you understand of which curve we're talking about, and if you check on your always in 2d, you'll find him without problems.

Metropolis
04-07-2014, 19:44
it is, in fact, I was able to find where is the curve you indicated..only one thing I don't understand the values that are in the clear? if it was so minimal ? set to 700giri/m?

maik_93
04-07-2014, 21:38
I believe that corresponds to when you turn on that goes alone to 1200 to stabilize at 700...I lifted up to 900...maybe ? just for the 700 rpm in these cars traballano to a minimum

maik_93
05-07-2014, 14:23
none for the failure??

ugoboss
05-07-2014, 18:20
none for the failure??

if the machine ? normal and you have a problem of excess pressure, you can have the geometry of the turbo locked, in that case I suggest you to disassemble the turbo and give it a good clean, not stay to try to work from the map why ? only a part-time job, of course, to be sure, you can make some tests and do an in-depth diagnosis.

maik_93
06-07-2014, 12:00
Then I'll explain ugoboss...my brother has removed the cat and precat and now enters failure error p2037 if I'm not mistaken...on the edc15 there are values to increase to ensure that the car goes in damage but in edc16 ? different

sportknight
06-07-2014, 12:48
if I remember correctly, I made one with the same problem and got only the limiter of the turbo to resolve..

on edc15 the values that go to the input of the limiter of the turbo...

maik_93
06-07-2014, 13:20
you say you increase the limiter f temp? or are there others out of the driver?

sportknight
06-07-2014, 14:10
there are 2 or 3 limiters in the drivers pi? someone out,aumentali all

maik_93
09-07-2014, 21:45
tried as you say sportknight but it does not do damage, and we also changed the turbine

sportknight
10-07-2014, 08:38
but he also does that with the new turbine?

maik_93
10-07-2014, 22:10
found the problem...the adjustment of the wastegate valve was moved, and the turbine saliva almost 3 bar....the turbine replaced I mean...that first had the variable geometry blocked

gionag
14-07-2014, 12:39
if I remember correctly, I made one with the same problem and got only the limiter of the turbo to resolve..

on edc15 the values that go to the input of the limiter of the turbo...

on edc15, at least the edc15c7 of the alfa 147 8v there are also two SVBL (Single value boost limit) one identifies the ABSOLUTE pressure and a pressure RELATIVE to which to report the failure.
the one absolute ? set to 2500, relative to 1500.
I imagine that on EDC16 is the same

sportknight
15-07-2014, 08:49
on edc16, just play with the pressure limiters map related to the turbo,already? tested,to him there was probably the error why? exceeded more than limiters

gionag
15-07-2014, 13:03
on edc16, just play with the pressure limiters map related to the turbo,already? tested,to him there was probably the error why? exceeded more than limiters

good to know, and then on EDC16, there are the SVBL ?

Metropolis
20-07-2014, 12:42
Guys I just tried to raise the minimum but this does not work unfortunately...After place the file to see if maybe I messed up or not...

michele30
26-07-2014, 16:14
hello metropolis then follows the mod of this map to the minimum?
email the file that let's take a look.

maik_93
18-08-2014, 13:55
email the file I am able to turn it up to 900 rpm

Metropolis
18-08-2014, 14:06
Here is the original file...I want to take it to about 1000 max 1100 rpm

file ori deleted, remember that the file ori should be posted in the database if there were no gi?, and, in the various discussions, paste the link with the number of posts

Errecinque
27-11-2014, 17:07
the map is from 1E7310 TO 1E7366

Thanks Ugoboss using your directions I found on the 2d before the couple's start-up this map on the 159 2.4 ? a 10x1 from the values of BP in the f(temp) I believe. I wonder? why? there are more? 10 points to indicate the engine rpm. Can you enlighten me Thanks

8896

Errecinque
02-12-2014, 22:07
I looked at the map well minimum indicated is not ? 1x10 but ? a 10x4. The x-axis we have 10 points indicating the revolutions each of the 4 different pressure values. The values in rpm pi? low that I had were 770 and 675 of them have risen to 850, but the minimum doesn't it ? raised......? stayed at 775-780 diagnosis as before. Then???

Metropolis
02-12-2014, 22:31
I have tried to change the map that you referred to as the map minimum, but the minimum of the car remains unchanged...

Errecinque
05-01-2015, 14:25
In fact, not ? the map c'? the first of the pair in the goodwill rule the minimum in normal conditions. Look at you with a diagnosis what is the idle speed with a warm engine (in my case 775 rpm alfa romeo 159 2.4) then try with ecm, for example, this value with the proper function of the sw ecm by selecting scan for 16-bit motorola and the various addresses as a result have a map with two ramps of BP with values of temperature (conv /10-273,10) and changed the corresponding values in the vs scheme, the minimum. Tested and working (up to 860)

Gianluca84
05-01-2015, 14:30
WRONG!!!
ATTENTION!!!! in the maps of the accelerator pedal, the 0 (zero) should never be touched. ? a matter of safety, if the " 0 " becomes equal to 0 the motor then does not slow down the pi?
THE minimum you can? change, but not with this method, among other very inaccurate.
c'? a specific map.

Absolutely right! Attention to us? that recommended and there? that is recommended! Remember that in the maps the 0 or negative values have their because