The transformation of the 500 Abarth 135cv *esseesse 160cv...

[darioz90]

Hello guys , information for beginners ... I would try to turn a 500a 135cv stock in esseesse by uploading the right file.
I have read with the Cock, v54 in virtual read the original file of the car in question (896kb) and I also did a hardware id:

HW: 0261201756
SW: 1037400825
Spare: 51854166

That file esseesse I should caricargli? the one with the same number HW: rightly, no?
I also have the possibility to use the KessV2 or a MPPS12 , accept advice and a few tips :cool:
Thanks to all :)

[darioz90]

Thanks a lot , I thought that wasn't enough, the upload the one with the same HW equal.

and the problem is that in the ECM I do not have the driver for the 500 and in WinOLS I don't have the damos :'(

[legendaryslave]

no, you can upload the file of the ss, but you need the files from the two mega-i.e. this https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?21-500-abarth poist n3-file 500st 160cv 0261201756-1037400100-160cv in boot mode I recommend that you plant the serial

[darioz90]

they are to be planted in serial with the cock that with kess v2? :O :O
however, it would be interesting to understand how to be able to cut the file that is read in the virtual from the cock...

[darioz90]

great guys , last question , given that I am still a newbie in this forum and I can't afford to download anything (I know that ? against the rules)
does anyone know where to find it or maybe a pious soul who sends me one ***** hihi? I tried...

[darioz90]

I'm back here , I have passed a file "500 abarth esseesse 160cv" from 832kb.
Ecm titanium this to me opens perfectly, only that the files being read with the rooster are from 896kb... the guide for them, I have yet to find :D
ps since I have the KessV2\MPPS v12\Gallo v54 what do you advise me to write to the file esseesse?

[darioz90]

ok now the read file in the virtual read from 896kb to 832kb and ECM titanium now makes me see the driver....
I copy the same values of the esseesse -> on the stock 135cv = hybrid modified a ss on the basis of 135cv? :D

[mikyrace82]

a piece of advice...from what it seems you lack a bit of experience...rely on the experts...here on the site c? the section in which to ask the rimappature...you'll see that you won't regret it, and especially don't do damage..

[maik_93]

[darioz90]

I'm back, thanks for the advice miki , but I'm very self-taught and I like to experiment :D
report of the evening:
-read in the virtual with the cock (896kb)
-cut the file to 832kb + 64kb FF
-copied the management of the pressure of the turbo from the original map "esseesse" on file stock 135cv
-rebuilt the file from 896kb (832kb mod ss + 64kb FF)
-written via the serial port with the cock, all gone to a good end , turn of the key on the first shot, and the pressure turbo equal to a cinquino EsseEsse.

I was able to compare a stock and a esseesse in the end it will only change the management of the prex of the turbo, or am I wrong?


(at the end from what I could see, only changes in one stock at a esseesse)
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[darioz90]

no answer ? :D to be a newbie and was hoping someone to tell me good hihi

[magi1984]

the engine ? 's always that...if maps your original file, you can safely reach the power of the 500st

[legendaryslave]

the engine ? 's always that...if maps your original file, you can safely reach the power of the 500st

yes, but it ? better to start from the files of the ss and then change that, to roll out the beautiful horses from that engine

[darioz90]

I noticed that out of the driver (pressure limiter), there are two different curves...

[unlocker1984]

yes, but it ? better to start from the files of the ss and then change that, to roll out the beautiful horses from that engine

Legendary I'm trying to delete the block valve butterfly, doing pi? and pi? tests, I wanted your advice... should I also change the limiters turbo from 4000 rpm to the maximum rpm range???
I increased the angle of opening of the valve until you get to the maximum speed to be gradually a maximum aperture of 88%, but it was the pressure turbo remain consistent 1-1 .1 bar.
I would like to at least have constant 1.2 up to 6000 rpm...
Where am I wrong!!!

[fire]

but you haven't tried to write in the serial?

[legendaryslave]

Legendary I'm trying to delete the block valve butterfly, doing pi? and pi? tests, I wanted your advice... should I also change the limiters turbo from 4000 rpm to the maximum rpm range???
I increased the angle of opening of the valve until you get to the maximum speed to be gradually a maximum aperture of 88%, but it was the pressure turbo remain consistent 1-1 .1 bar.
I would like to at least have constant 1.2 up to 6000 rpm...
Where am I wrong!!!
you can beat as much as you like on the electronic management exceeded a certain limit, the pressure collapses you can make it also to the team at the maximum of the limiters don't get however, a good result ? a factor due to the turbine itself, which after a certain limit it does is heat the air, have I understood when I switched to a turbo bigger then see if it maintains the constant

[darioz90]

certain written in the serial, however, leggenday for it to keep on the pressure you have to put the 3 sensors of the gpa ss and realign the whole, on the basis of the map gpa SS

[Polabarth]

Hi guys with The cock, I can copy a map esseesse on my stock ecu I have the same hw of dario90 thanks

[leandro89]

Hi guys with The cock, I can copy a map esseesse on my stock ecu I have the same hw of dario90 thanks

it goes in the section "presentation" and you show up then you can ask all the questions you want!

[Polabarth]

Thanks now I do, but then explain to me how to do it with this map for pleasure

[leandro89]

Thanks now I do, but then explain to me how to do it with this map for pleasure

if you have the same hw not ? said that you have the same sw

[Polabarth]

Kindly can you explain me how to do it I can provide you with hw and sw

Here is 83838383

[leandro89]

you can try to do the same operation that the user did darioz90, but, according to me you should a mapping how should risk less

[Polabarth]

Ok for? how do I download the right file? Then I can write it with cock 1260?

[leandro89]

Ok for? how do I download the right file? Then I can write it with cock 1260?

with the 1260 I I not even closer to your machine, frankly, I don't know if he can write. as said, the user darioz90 on this car is the virtual read what the 1260 has not

[tecnoecu]

hi, I think that working on your map, both less risky and more convenient to remember that the essesse nn ? only a difference of the map, but also has several different components scarici, cams, wastgate,etc

[Polabarth]

With regard to the 500 the only difference ? on the map, while on the Point, also change other components where can I find the file esseesse for me, I posted the first of my hw and sw

[darioz90]

do not copy the same sw, copy the increases on your file ori of the esseesse, by comparing the curves

[Polabarth]

Hello Dario, I have to say that I have no idea how do do anything but work the Abarthina ? a passion of mine and I wanted to simply make do by just putting the file in the esseesse or 595 then ? the same around here do not sell and do not do? other maps I like to keep the car in its authenticity? for this reason, I limited only to this slight upgrade and then tell me if you can? to do to find the file I need to wait for the 80 sound messages obviously seen that with the gallo 1260 I don't do anything I have to munirmi of galletto v54? Thanks and excuse my ignorance

Then Dario as increases in the Abarth I have said, that is incremented +12 % boost and +2% torque limiters ? right? Strange that they have not changed advances or gasoline, this has told me a mechanic, Abarth confidentially

[darioz90]

trust me , listen to me ... read your original file , look at the difference from a file and SS and copy the same increments on your original file ;)

[Polabarth]

Ok Dario, but those increases are right that I have mentioned? What tools do you use?

[Driver]

To know what are the real differences, you have to have the two original files. One of the Abarth Standard and one of the SS, then comparing the various maps to see what are the increments. To read the your car, if I'm not mistaken you can use the cock V54 that makes the virtual read and then you can write it down.

[Polabarth]

Ok for? to have the file will have? wait 80 messages

[Driver]

If you have the equipment that I have indicated above, you can read it on your car, and if you know someone with the ss do the same. Otherwise you have to get to 80 messages! :rolleyes:

[Polabarth]

Ok but a rough guide to the differences in the map are only those indicated?

[Driver]

[Polabarth]

The comparison you made ? among the 500 135 hp and 500 160cv?

[Driver]

Is exact, I took 2 file ori in the database qu? in the forum!

[Polabarth]

Ok but I can then copy the file directly from 160 hp in my ECU ?

[leandro89]

Ok but I can then copy the file directly from 160 hp in my ECU ?

no you can't do it, if you read carefully, you have to copy the increases and various limiters in the map ori of your car and write the mod

[Polabarth]

Ok why?? But you told me that out of the drivers I don't know what it means there are other maps? Sorry but for me ? Arabic

[leandro89]

Ok why?? But you told me that out of the drivers I don't know what it means there are other maps? Sorry but for me ? Arabic

ecm titanium when you upload an original file you map a table that you can modify in a very simple way, in addition to these maps, which gives you the driver you need to scroll in 2d and modify any of the maps and limiters that ecm does not give you. I don't know if I explained it well

[Polabarth]

Ok I start to understand? we talked about maps out of the driver, I'm afraid I forget the parts;-) and if I raise only the turbo pressure? I said a friend of mine who ? better to make the map in 3D ? true?

[leandro89]

Ok I start to understand? we talked about maps out of the driver, I'm afraid I forget the parts;-) and if I raise only the turbo pressure? I said a friend of mine who ? better to make the map in 3D ? true?

if you know how to use ecm pieces not forget about it, why? there is the function that makes the next difference

[Driver]

Ok I start to understand? we talked about maps out of the driver, I'm afraid I forget the parts;-) and if I raise only the turbo pressure? I said a friend of mine who ? better to make the map in 3D ? true?

The maps are all interrelated. Raise only one or the other is nothing, and especially on the turbo petrol and the petrol engines in general, you can do damage very easily.

Simplifying if you enter more? the air in the engine, you also need to put more? gasoline. Everything must follow a relationship, precisely said, "stoichiometric ratio" (AFR).

With regard to the edit method, I don't think there is a better one. Each processor uses its own method. Usually Tabular and 2D.

[Polabarth]

No I can not use anything I have to learn

Ok but, in theory, the stechio does not repair only? Possibly you can? buy the map ss surcharge

[leandro89]

No I can not use anything I have to learn

Ok but, in theory, the stechio does not repair only? Possibly you can? buy the map ss surcharge

for this refer to the services section of the online forum

[Polabarth]

One of my friend is using kess ? best ecm?

[Driver]

The report corrects the control unit to a certain extent in certain situations. If you bust the values from the map, and you do not make the appropriate measurements (AFR, EGT, Knock, etc.) may incur large risks for the engine!!

For the mod file if you ask the staff of the forum surely will settle for that. To learn I recommend starting with some diesel management maybe type EDC15, or if you just want to do things well, to make a beautiful course that will clarifies the ideas and all the doubts or questions that you may have! :)

[Polabarth]

Thanks guys, you are very much available and you have a lot of patience for courses in Trieste there is something?

[Driver]

[tecnoecu]

watch my friend k and works in fiat assured me ke the differences nn are only in the map, then I, personally, I don't know

[Polabarth]

Cos? between normal and ss or 595 c'? a reflash of the ecu filter and the bmc set up and brakes in the kit, only the 695 or 595 50 anniversary mountain turbine garret and have 180 hp and differ precisely in the turbine, the other part of the filter, and the trim only electronic

[Polabarth]

Instead, the discourse is changing to the point there are cams injectors turbine between the abarth and the ss

[Polabarth]

Ok guys thanks in the meantime

[darioz90]

the grande punto abarth SS does not fit the cams different from the 500, but simply the turbo \ injectors \ 3 sensors and the reinforced clutch, which from 2012 is fitted with the series already? on the 500a stock

[Polabarth]

Ok for? the 500 up to 160 hp differ only in the map versions from 180 have the garret instead of ihi

[Polabarth]

Dario then you're able to do the map esseesse?

[darioz90]

you of course :) , as I have written previously align the curves by placing the two files one below the other and see the differences

[jolidj]

if at 5500 6000 rpm the pressure is a 1 0.8 b not to say 0.6 the difference between a map and the other as and???
by changing the map to the gold go, the more strongly. if you do not change the mechanics too much, you can't reach on that machine.

[darioz90]

I was on my 500a (1446 turbo , inj GPA SS, sensors GPA SS) 6000giri I'm still at 1.5 bar :) , ps to be able to maintain at least 1 bar on the stock turbo 500a ihi , you have to mount the sensors of the GPA SS aligning everything, and correcting the map

[fabiovts88]

I know that the myth 155 and 120 hp mounts the same ecu 500 abarth , if someone of you knows I would like to know how to remain constant the turbo at high rpm , they told me that there are curves in 2d to change the driver in the ecm, not

[darioz90]

[Gianpy80]

[fabiovts88]

here is the guide of how to do it
1) open the sw ecm
2) go into the item in the upper tools
3) choose conversions
4) then choose cut /paste file - opens a screen.
5) click browse and upload the file ori from 896kb
6) choose defined by the user by checking with the green dot
7) will then be displayed in the entry beginning 000000 and the end odffff
you the end of the leave so but the beginning inpostate the value 010000 and saved the file to 832 kb then
elaborated with the ecm so that I recognize and I will give you? the right driver and save it to mod.
9) then, it is always the file from 896kb that you have set to generated in the scermata make the beginning of the leave 000000
and the end inpostate 00ffff and by doing so you saved a file to 64kb that will serve you? to return the
mod files from 832kb to 896kb... now I will explain
10) always in the tools menu then go concatenates two files, a screen opens up and loaded before the file is 64kb, which you saved, and then the file from 832kb same account as the one you saved to mod and the sw you say? the file you are creating to lengths and sizes save equally you will say you ? the file ? become new to 896kb but mod to be able to rewrite with hw in the ecu...

[fabiovts88]

I hope I can be useful

[Gianpy80]

hi, done everything and are successful only that if I try to write it tells me error checksum not found :(

[fabiovts88]

but sorry, you will not be automatically corrects the programmer in writing the cks? what do you use to write

[Gianpy80]

in fact, I messed up... I had them chained to the contrary.. luck that the v53 ? pi? smart.. still written in perfectly with the new increments of the essesse that then are limiters factory set to reduce the power.. now the turbo pressure ? much more? constant. Thanks a lot Fabio you've been very kind...

[fabiovts88]

I figured gianpy if I can help I do it with pleasure ;)

[darioz90]

Here I am , I had been a moment absent , less evil that has already? suggerto someone ihih

[darioz90]

Ps last thing , out of the driver there are other things that change from 135 stock to a esseesse...

[fabiovts88]

sorry for the info but the kess v2 clone writes them to the ecu?

[fabiovts88]

guys, if you can affect I have the files of the 200cv trofeo abarth

[darioz90]

I would, can you post it here? :)

[fabiovts88]

sure here it is
could you explain to me how to see the number of increments between file ori 500-stock and ss can't with ecm I bust all

[unlocker06]

Legendary I'm doing various tests with torque limiters and I have to say that the car is fine, but as you say the crowd is ihi warms up and falls in pressure. I wanted to ask you if by ecm you know you set the launch control, I tried to set the limiter, the engine rpm threshold is lower but I lock the rpm at the set value 4500.
Could you help me

[legendaryslave]

Legendary I'm doing various tests with torque limiters and I have to say that the car is fine, but as you say the crowd is ihi warms up and falls in pressure. I wanted to ask you if by ecm you know you set the launch control, I tried to set the limiter, the engine rpm threshold is lower but I lock the rpm at the set value 4500.
Could you help me

you can do that but I see that you have no active participation in the forum, therefore even if you do file, you can not download it

[passion engines]

and already from 2013, a single message.............then, setting for the launch control, think before to a good remap, and the rest think later.............

[unlocker06]

you can do that but I see that you have no active participation in the forum, therefore even if you do file, you can not download it

Legendary I've refined the best of the limiters, managing the car to my liking, also regarding the sensitivity of the command the accelerator, I have to say that now. The truth is that the Launch Control was a test that I wanted to do to figure out how to set.
I just wanted to understand them from the limiters rounds I had set, I thank you for having proposed me to directly see by the map, but the forum rules are clear and I do not want to absolutely breaking them.
Passion motors, I apologize for a only message, but work keeps me busy too, in time ****** I try to devote myself to the study of the mapping cars, not for work but for pure passion, investing money purely for educational purposes and not for profit, however the remap is currently the I have done according to me truly ad hoc, the car is perfectly calibrated as I want, without jerking or sudden reactions.
The Launch Control is not a fixation, in normal road use I can also do without it but since I often use the car to participate in the Slalom on circuits and mountain passes, I'd like to make departures directly without removing the foot from the accelerator, knowing that the engine revs remain in stop position and start the ones I set. That's all here.
I don't know if the regulation allows to insert my ***** but if this were so legendary, I can insert it, and you can send me the file to see what to set.
Thanks guys for the pasienza this and the professionalism that we share and we share