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pabloescobar
14-05-2014, 16:40
I was in fiat, renault and citroen, but no one has been able to say that the type of fat used in the piston sliding calipers.
The bottom has a rubber inside that is not making any noise and ? lubricated by a white fat that is resistant to high temperatures and at the same time not ruin the rubber.

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bytebyte
14-05-2014, 19:06
not ? what is lithium?

Zac
14-05-2014, 21:44
silicone grease, high temperature, 300? it helps to keep the characteristics of the rubber of the bellows,lubricates the pistons , and water-repellent

giuseppeturbo
14-05-2014, 21:48
I usually found it in complete kits of ganaasce , is located in tubettini small and has the consistency gel of the bendix

munro
14-05-2014, 22:16
I use the normal black grease for constant velocity joints....

Zac
14-05-2014, 22:42
I use the normal black grease for constant velocity joints....

that's good,for? until the bellows are intact,otherwise, it behaves worse because it accumulates a quantity greater dirt that makes kneading letteralmete because it is more "sticky"

admin
14-05-2014, 23:28
I use the normal black grease for constant velocity joints....


I also use the black grease for joints

Gheroppa
15-05-2014, 18:37
If electronics do not know much can I for? say something in terms of braking systems, in which I worked in for over 20 years, Zac has centered in the middle, silicone grease for high temperatures, a time they used the brand name Molykote, now what comes comes, I speak for the fiat group, including the branch vehicle ommerciali, nireto (Nissan, Toyota, Renault, daewoo and maserati (in this case the brake ? only parking) slo Ford used a fat spceiale enriched with copper paste.
P.S. you do Not have to fill in the bellows, but rather to use with parsomonia, in the spare parts kit jaws (Ate, FGA) is regularly a small plastic container, rectangular with graso that serves (and it should advance).
At the end of the work in the process of industrial sprays well a silicone spray on the outside of the rubber bellows, but mostly serves er cope with the period of storage of the component or of the partial assembled, I sincerely believe that it lasts very little tr

pabloescobar
15-05-2014, 18:44
For the mechanics who use the black grease return on those machines and try to remove those pistons now why? will be attacked as if they had been welded and then the brake pads are not returning to the pi? back damage the latter and the disks. Zac, please, please give me the specifications of that fat that you mentioned


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Gheroppa
15-05-2014, 18:45


...little treatment so did about a half working.

PS informational purposes only the fat ? the same is located and that is to be restored, between the plates of the plate and the edge of the jaw, where the jaw strip in its natural movement of the work, and where often on auto with the 100-odd Km we find a cndensato of raggine dirt dust segment that blocks a sociology of jaws led to the rapid consumption of the other (for those who know what to paro, it blocks the secondary and eats the primary).

Gheroppa
15-05-2014, 18:56
For the mechanics who use the black grease return on those machines and try to remove those pistons now why? will be attacked as if they had been welded and then the brake pads are not returning to the pi? back damage the latter and the disks. Zac, please, please give me the specifications of that fat that you mentioned


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In theory, the spring torsion, or other retrieval system of the jaws ? designed to resist a force of about 45Kg (on average, then there are various measures and the strength changes, the measures are still tied to the inch, 180 188 203 228 ectc) menrte if it remains locked, the piston in the cylinder of the small internal spring opposed by a few Kg, but if it remains locked in the thrust of the spring torsion, or other retrieval system of the jaw sietema things, if rsta locked back( usually on the system with the cable to the LFM soak or with the yoke irregular) in braking, you hear the clac clac of the piston which starts the bomb, and mussel on the head of the jaw, this leads to a rapid consumption of the head of the piston, which in modern cars (10 years here) ? often in aluminium alloy.
among other things, the specific grease ? fine, put a grease with dirt means to condemn to death the surface of the cylinder/piston.

franco1971
15-05-2014, 20:33
I have reviewed several brake calipers, but after a thorough cleaning, refit the cylinder lubrificandolo with brake fluid and I have never had problems of any kind.

Zac
15-05-2014, 20:57
I have reviewed several brake calipers, but after a thorough cleaning, refit the cylinder lubrificandolo with brake fluid and I have never had problems of any kind.

don't get me wrong,franco, however, that it was a solution that was used several years ago and that you can still use it on car dated,it was an excellent solution. but for the calipers modern is not to be the most well because they have changed the materials that they use for pistons,the tires used for the bellows,even the dust cover is not more of the same invoice and quality of a modern....

RTR
15-05-2014, 21:47
silicone grease, and go quiet...

franco1971
15-05-2014, 21:59
don't get me wrong,franco, however, that it was a solution that was used several years ago and that you can still use it on car dated,it was an excellent solution. but for the calipers modern is not to be the most well because they have changed the materials that they use for pistons,the tires used for the bellows,even the dust cover is not more of the same invoice and quality of a modern....

it is the reason zac, but I, personally, never having had problems adopting this method, definitely using specific products it is always better to

Gheroppa
15-05-2014, 22:05

checchitotiralaleva
22-05-2014, 09:27
For the few clamps that I have reviewed... However the silicone grease I've always found the inside of the kit! In the quantity? gi? dosed

Zac
22-05-2014, 09:35
For the mechanics who use the black grease back on those machines and try to remove those pistons now why? will be attacked as if they had been welded and then the brake pads are not returning to the pi? back damage of the latter and the disks. Zac, please, please give me the specifications of that grease you mentioned, Thanks

I use the tube of the cfg coast 7/10 euro if it uses very little and lasts a lifetime.....

Zac
22-05-2014, 09:53
however, there are many brands,also the wurth makes good,the important thing is that it has a temperature resistance of at least 200?c ,I'll tell' more' there are models of this type of fat with stocks variables for the differential,of course, and stuff from the race...

checchitotiralaleva
22-05-2014, 12:00
Just for your information, I have never used on-piston caliper, precisely why? I've always used the fat of the kit, but you could use the copper paste if necessary?
I that the use of prisoners of collectors, for studs wheel...

cinqueturbo
22-05-2014, 13:14
Just for your information, I have never used on-piston caliper, precisely why? I've always used the fat of the kit, but you could use the copper paste if necessary?
I that the use of prisoners of collectors, for studs wheel...

Should be a good one to t? mentioned..
I, however, use the white grease I don't remember the specifics,and the name,
perhaps, and of the protection or something like that..
specific joints, ropes, cables, and plugs in to the scroll..

checchitotiralaleva
23-05-2014, 22:31
Good to know!!! If one day I came from a kit without the fat!

Hello to all

Zac
24-05-2014, 13:52
Just for your information, I have never used on-piston caliper, precisely why? I've always used the fat of the kit, but you could use the copper paste if necessary?
I that the use of prisoners of collectors, for studs wheel...

in fact, it doesn't work the copper paste

doom78
27-05-2014, 23:16
Spring pins or plates we use a high-temperature grease based on "ceramic". For the pistons and seals, various use a silicone grease.