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ecuboost
13-09-2012, 15:19
hi with the help of a little + expert I put on qst draft of the map, I closed the egr and I have done according to me changes very, very soft, can someone tell me the pu? say if the map ? can be loaded on the car and if ? made with criterion?
magi1984
13-09-2012, 15:40
damage does not make for? certain things should be arranged according to me.
the required torque during acceleration standard: you can start by 1500giri, parts from the 50% of the no load by 20% and by measured increases, for example from 5 to 14 and not 15%
couple requests for the functionality? sport and acceleration is the same thing suggested above
torque limiter maximum you can go even up to 20%
with maximum torque of the second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth gear incremental as the torque limiter maximum
Pressure turbo you can go up to 160 points, if it also controls the limiter
rail pressure you lift too much, according to me, stopped to 40/50 bar in the pi?.
you haven't touched the deal? fuel injected and the injection time.
you can also edit those two maps if you want to from 50% load to 100%, increasing, say, from 5% to 10% in a phased manner starting from 1500giri
however, if you want to try it cos? com'?, I repeat, NOT DAMAGE IT, quiet
ecuboost
13-09-2012, 15:43
excuse me, perhaps I have not indicated the type of car exact, the car in question does not have the sport, and even the sixth gear.
magi1984
13-09-2012, 16:40
excuse me???give me of you...
otherwise, I see myself obliged to give of her as well I
in the driver, which opens with ecm titanium there are also those maps
attached is an image of the torque limiters for single gear
http://s18.postimage.org/wrbigwdc5/Immagine.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/wrbigwdc5/)
cicciogsr
13-09-2012, 16:52
with this map you will not have big improvements ? as if I had mounted an add-on module is missing a lot of things...? true that mod the rail to inject more? diesel? not at the profit that serves the engine... to take a couple and then the power you have to adjust the other maps... the turbo the you could leave pure gold given that you haven't touched other things.. there should be also another map of the rail..
ecuboost
13-09-2012, 18:15
but as ever ? this a map of a 5-speed map for the 6?
ecuboost
13-09-2012, 18:19
and worse yet, the function sport
cicciogsr
13-09-2012, 18:20
why? the same sw you'll find him in the six-speed... don't worry about those limiters why? with the map that you did not you will get there never get them to get in on the action..
ecuboost
13-09-2012, 18:30
ok, but if I wanted only the third one is a little more? boost what should I tap it?
ecuboost
13-09-2012, 18:33
my goal was just to not kill the machine in the third...and then a board here, one of them ended up here:-)
cicciogsr
13-09-2012, 18:42
surely not ? a prob of those limiters... you need to increase the flow of fuel to have more? a couple.
msport (exil77grande)
13-09-2012, 19:33
my goal was just to not kill the machine in the third...and then a board here, one of them ended up here:-)
I don't understand what you mean with:
and then a board here, one of them I ended up here
I don't understand what you mean with:
and then a board here, one of them I ended up here
perhaps will be also asked in other places...it happens!
Sorry for the ignorance... but the maps couple 1,2,3,4,5 gear, are not used only in the version with the automatic transmission? the cio? how does the machine recognize the gear is engaged, if the manual transmission, there is a sensor that detects the gear?
in edc16c39 with manual transmission, is used only of the torque limiter and the various maps of the required torque (pedal) or am I wrong?
msport (exil77grande)
13-09-2012, 21:10
Sorry for the ignorance... but the maps couple 1,2,3,4,5 gear, are not used only in the version with the automatic transmission? the cio? how does the machine recognize the gear is engaged, if the manual transmission, there is a sensor that detects the gear?
in edc16c39 with manual transmission, is used only of the torque limiter and the various maps of the required torque (pedal) or am I wrong?
absolutely no,these are torque limiters for single gear,many of them have known thanks to the titanium that brings them back, but many of them already knew a few years ago type on the 1.9 mjet 140cv edc16c8, etc.
absolutely no,these are torque limiters for single gear,many of them have known thanks to the titanium that brings them back, but many of them already knew a few years ago type on the 1.9 mjet 140cv edc16c8, etc.
ok, there are these maps that limit the torque to the second gear is engaged, but what I don't understand ? as the ecu face to know which map to apply if you are not pu? know the gear!?
the gear and the know knowing the speed and rpm...
the gear and the know knowing the speed and rpm...
Ok, this I wanted to understand :)
Then the ecu depending on rpm and speed? is obtained to ****llo "theoretical" what gear "should" be inserted at that time.
now I ? clear, thanks!
ecuboost
13-09-2012, 21:49
I don't understand what you mean with:
and then a board here, one of them I ended up here
I wanted to say that I just wanted that the car does not die in the third, and between a council and another I got stuck in qst map
msport (exil77grande)
13-09-2012, 22:12
I wanted to say that I just wanted that the car does not die in the third, and between a council and another I got stuck in qst map
ah I understand, tomorrow I give you some advice more precise,what do you do the mod?
ecuboost
13-09-2012, 23:10
1118
who knows what? this map?
? one of the many management for the DPF, not to be touched...
ecuboost
13-09-2012, 23:32
here is another thing that is missing in my car
ecuboost
13-09-2012, 23:33
what would you recommend for me to mod to have a bit of torque in low rpm?
here is another thing that is missing in my car
for torque in the low I doubt you could do a lot, if you hear a "blank" under the 1500-2000 rpm that ? the lag of the turbo... then it also depends on if you have the turbo fixed geometry or variable.
gi? by closing the egr you should feel an improvement...
feel lucky if you are without dpf :P
my ? the 1.6 mjet 16v 120 hp with dpf, the performance is very good, but the filter problems... during the regeneration strattona and consumes... for the rest ok.
We are waiting on the word of an expert who knows a way to improve the power delivery at low revs :)
cicciogsr
13-09-2012, 23:54
if you have the fap not ? very not recommended to increase in the low rpm range the risk of clogging the filter ir? frequently .. if you want to map as you must think to delete the fap definitively otherwise, to stay safe, you need to settle for a best shot at the top .. also depends on where you use the car on street circuits clogs before and the regenerations outside of those planned to occur with greater frequency..
andreap wanted to know what could be done to improve low rpm
magi1984
14-09-2012, 00:05
I really saoevo the opposite wibble...if you have the fap increases in low and mid-range, leaving the original at the top. Tant'? true that the add-on modules for cars with fap at the top are not involved
I really saoevo the opposite wibble...if you have the fap increases in low and mid-range, leaving the original at the top. Tant'? true that the add-on modules for cars with fap at the top are not involved
you have not read a good discussion, we're saying the same thing, fap or not to fap, andreap wanted to know if there is a way to improve low rpm, with or without fap...
and then map without removing the fap does not make sense to me... if it's done the job must be done in a complete ignorant, I think you should first remove the dpf and egr and then you think of the map.
I really saoevo the opposite wibble...if you have the fap increases in low and mid-range, leaving the original at the top. Tant'? true that the add-on modules for cars with fap at the top are not involved
And as it says in cicciogsr if you lower the risks of clogging the fap and preferibbile increase the average high is always with a certain criterion, otherwise you risk clogging of the fap
ecuboost
14-09-2012, 08:52
my ? without dpf(perhaps fortunately), performance not can I complain to? something in ir? in the netherlands I would not mind, in fact I do not want to speed? larger maximum, even why? ride especially in the city
ecuboost
14-09-2012, 12:51
but if I change the limiter rail pressure, but do not edit the map rail pressure not concluding anything true?
cicciogsr
14-09-2012, 13:33
since it has no dpf.. make a map as you must... study the various administrations to understand the logic of the ecu and then you start to do your tests if you are passionate about... otherwise you do..
tecnoracing
14-09-2012, 14:07
I think that changing the rail pressure is to be done in the same way his limiter, no ?
but if I change the limiter rail pressure, but do not edit the map rail pressure not concluding anything true?
but if I change the limiter rail pressure, but do not edit the map rail pressure not concluding anything true?
exact....
you can also keep the original rail and pull it out of beautiful horses...
but you need to know well his logic...
bernardo943
27-09-2012, 17:46
and very interesting to do these things.. ;) floor plan I hope to learn
Gemini89
06-10-2012, 19:55
b? if you want to pair it down you have 2 things to do, take the torque limiter and ricostruici, if you notice c'? a crater does not ? l the beginning of the map as the ecm), as a second-what do you take advances, and from the inside but you have to watch them all not only change what you d? ecm and then copy-in-law, not to be modified all the advances. if you notice well in those units of m.... the diesel at the top ? practically zero, and in the pi? there are 4 limiters that ecm f? see the driver but it seems that no one has ever arrived !!!
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